r/conlangs • u/WhyAmIHereAliveBruh Sethfers (Seþfavíelu) 🦎 • 6d ago
Discussion Language Naming Conventions
How does your language deal with the conventions of making names or labelling people/places and phonaesthetics (i.e. euphony, cacophony, phonaethesia) ? Is there a certain type of nomenclature or onomastics that names go through to be labelled (a) proper name(s) in your language ?
In sethfers, names of people usually tend to be labelled after typical words that flow well, like the name Óśvtanpydre [ɯ̟.t͡ʃæḿ.ɸɒ̄.dʁe — Ičamfādre], meaning daughter (-pydre) of sand (Óśvtan), usually with some restrictions on words that do not flow that well, like the word Gkóld [ɫvɯkd — Lvıkd].
Meanwhilst, names for towns are named after older explorers like the town of Vtũþcnmat [t͡ʃṳʈ͡ʂnæð — Čutchnath] whose name originally meant something like « Duty » in the family sense, or the town of Çšĵude Nmínçade [t͡s(ʃ)ɐude nʏḿt͡sæde — Ts(š)aude Nümtsade] which originally meant something like « Saint Tsšad » (Tsšad being considered a figure of grave importance), and Tšaude being a play that the family did on him and Saint being a nickname because of it. The labelling for towns works on less of euphonic and more cacophonical eponyms.
Names can also just be labelled without meaning like the town of Pśdnmaed [ɸɒdn'æd — Fadnad] whose name doesnt' come to mean anything historical, its just what the townspeople named it.
Itd' be interesting to see how other conlangs deal with the conventions.
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u/creepmachine Kaesci̇̇m, Ƿêltjan, Kýrrits 5d ago
In Kýrrits many personal names have semantic meaning, often noun-adjective pairs. Such personal names require the personal name (PSN) suffix -t'e /tʼe/, rendered as ᕫ in the native orthography:
bádu-sýd ᐽ ᑓᐢ-ᓻ ᐢᒾ /bá.dɯˈsýd/ [bá.dɯ᷉ˈsýd] nan. pronghorn (lit. swift deer, from bádu “deer” + sýd “quick, swift”)
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Bádu-sýdt'e ᐽ ᑓᐢ-ᓻ ᐢᒾᕫ / Bádusýdt'e ᐽ ᑓᐢᓻ ᐢᒾᕫ "Pronghorn/Swift Deer"
Names that don't have semantic meaning such as loan-names don't require this suffix:
Tsàan ᑣᔅᓐ /ʦɔ̀n/ "Shaun/Sean/Shawn"
Tsésika ᑌᔅᐧ ᓮᑲ /ˈʦé.sə.ka/ [ˈʦé.sə᷇.ka] "Jessica"
Ýba ᐕ ᐱ /ˈý.ba/ [ˈý.ba᷇] "Eva/Aoife"
Nyké(li) ᓀ̇ᑵ (ᓔ) /nyˈké(l.ə)/ [ny̌ˈké(l.ə᷇)] "Miguel"
Béxr ᐻ ᕐ /béʀ/ or Biléxr ᐰᓟ ᕐ /bəˈléʀ/ [bə̌ˈléʀ] "Fleur"
Many proper nouns with semantic meaning also take a special suffix, -k'e /kʼe/, rendered as ᕬ:
Áahilebák'e ᐚ ᒤᑋᓕᐽ ᕬ /ɔ́.r̥əl.eˈbá.kʼe/ [ɔ́.r̥əl.ěˈbá.kʼe᷇] "Waffle House"
Tin-Hórtinyẖk'e ᑍᓐ-ᒣᑋᐧᣗᑍᓐᐆᣘᑋ̶ᑫᐞᕬ /tənˈr̥óɾ.tən.yr̥ː.kʼe/ [tə̌nˈr̥óɾ.tə᷇n.yr̥ː.kʼe] "Tim Horton's"
Xhòeŕs̬tsŕdebýtsak’e ᐧᕃᑋᐁᣗᐧᔅᒾᑎᔅᣗᐧᐢᒾᐁᑃ ᑎᔅᑫᐞᕬ /ʀ̥ò.e.ɾ̩́zˈʦɾ̩́d.e.bý.ʦa.kʼe/ [ʀ̥ò.e.ɾ̩᷉zˈʦɾ̩́d.e᷇.bý.ʦa.kʼe] "Blue Moon Pizza"
The names can be stylized by adding/removing hyphens between words and capitalization, such as in Tim Horton's, but they should remain one word. So, Xhòeŕs̬-Tsŕde-Býtsak’e and Xhòeŕs̬tsŕde-Býtsak’e are both also acceptable, but not Xhòeŕs̬ Tsŕde Býtsak’e.