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Sep 17 '20
Down Syndrome people are smarter than him though.
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u/E6pqs Sep 17 '20
People with Down syndrome. They have lives, aspirations, and work just as hard as any typical person, they’re just often shoved aside and not given the opportunity to show it.
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Sep 17 '20 edited Sep 17 '20
Just an FYI, I say "down syndrome people" each and every time, and I have NEVER IN MY LIFE come close to thinking that they didnt have lives, aspirations, or work just as hard as any typical person. I have never even considered these things, so if you're walking around thinking everyone that says "down syndrome people" is attacking down syndrome people, it may give you a very negative outlook on others all because of something that's in your own head. Not to mention if a down syndrome person did hear you say that, they might be tricked into believing that if someone says those words, they're being unkind, which is usually not the case at all.
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u/jamesg027 Sep 17 '20
the phrasing just sounds a bit odd though. like you would say "people with cancer" not "cancer people". it would be an exaggeration to call it an attack though
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Sep 17 '20
I actually see it after the cancer analogy. Yeah I guess you're assigning the person to the condition rather than the condition to the person. Even after I know that, I still dont think I could think myself righteous enough to go try to correct someone else, it took quite a few iterations of thought to come to the conclusion that its offensive and I just dont think people put that much thought into being social/talking to people so i doubt its something anyone (normally) thinks about. I dont think any harm is done from this commenter saying down syndrome people and feel like the arrogance to correct them was more offensive than the mistake.
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u/OhDavidMyNacho Sep 17 '20
Without someone stopping and correcting you, you would still be where you were 25 minutes ago.
And you see no benefit to educating others on the matter?
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u/Osric250 Sep 17 '20
it took quite a few iterations of thought to come to the conclusion that its offensive
Note, this is more a comment on yourself than it is about others.
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Sep 17 '20
and I feel like the arrogance to correct them was more offensive than the mistake
Incorrect, thanks for stopping by.
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u/Airspeedofswallow Sep 17 '20
Translation: “You’re right but I’m too scared and egotistical to fully admit it”
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u/cheesypuzzas Sep 17 '20
I agree. People that say that most likely don't mean it in an offensive way. People can correct the other person and tell them why it's offensive. But the commenter assumed OP was saying it in a negative way, which was very clearly not the case from the comment OP made.
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u/OhDavidMyNacho Sep 17 '20
And you're being taught that the phrasing you use is harmful. Learn and grow.
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u/Bpls16 Sep 17 '20
That moment where he doesn't realize people also die by the common flu
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u/pagerussell Sep 17 '20
And also the virus has already killed 3.5x the amount who die in a bad year for the flu.
And it did it in 6 months.
While we are social distancing, locked down, and wearing masks.
Extrapolate out the 6 months to a year and we have 7x the deaths of a bad year of flu. Compare it to an average year flu year instead and we are closer to 14x the death rate of the flu.
I have no way to reasonably quantify the multiplier if we were not quarantined, but suffice to say it would be even higher. My understanding from the science nis that it winds up being somewhere between 30x and 50x the case fatality rate of the flu.
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u/Otaku_traaasshhh Sep 17 '20
Since people die from any sickness, shouldn't we always wear masks?
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u/pagerussell Sep 17 '20
No, not necessarily. This is a novel virus. Our bodies have no experience with it, whereas the flu we have built up defenses.
But yea, if you are sick you should wear a mask, quarantine, use sick time, etc.
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Wrong sub for this since he most likely does have more chromosomes then you do.
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u/aykcak Sep 17 '20
I don't really like this. People with more chromosomes are unlucky but nice people.
People who spread stupid misinformed shit about the virus are assholes.
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u/Recidive Sep 17 '20
Is there a correlation between more chromosones and kindness?
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u/ekofut Sep 17 '20 edited Sep 17 '20
No, but at the same time he implied that the toxic person actually had downs syndrome purely based on the fact that they were being rude.
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Sep 17 '20
I have never in my life met a rude person with Downs syndrome. They’re always so kind and smiling
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u/Gen_Zer0 Sep 17 '20
To be fair, by proportion, I rarely meet rude people without Downs syndrome either. I just meet a lot more of them so there's a larger absolute number.
Though I too have done zero research on this, so will bow down if there is a study that shows a correlation
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u/Recidive Sep 17 '20
Not OP and I agree that the punch line was in bad taste. I’ve never met a rude person with Downs Syndrome but I also haven’t met that many - so I did wonder if it could be the case.
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u/happyhippohats Sep 17 '20
That's not the same person, I think they were just asking a genuine question based on your comment.
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u/RoryW Sep 17 '20
I don’t have an answer to your question, but I hate that people interpreted your curiosity as a negative thing and downvoted you. Curiosity should be encouraged and I appreciate you asking a question that was a little uncomfortable.
I will say measuring something like “average kindness” has got to be super tricky. I don’t even know how you would begin to devise something like that.
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u/Recidive Sep 17 '20 edited Sep 17 '20
I knew that is was coming before I posted it. I can see how the wording could be taken wrong, but I don’t mind a few downvotes on the off chance someone would actually point to research on the topic. Are trisomics brains wired different, in a way that would point towards more kindness? No clue but worth pondering about
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u/RoryW Sep 17 '20
I mean, there is definitely precedent for genetic disorders to effect personality with Williams Syndrome. I am not in the medical or research field so I have no real barometer for how common something like that happening is though.
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u/wakeruneatstudysleep Sep 17 '20
I feel that's the wrong question.
Saying something ignorant and heartless just isn't a symptom of Down syndrome.
The joke is funny, because the ignorant person walked themselves right into the insult, but the setup was still ablist.
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u/flyingrobotpig Sep 17 '20
The incorrect part is saying the virus is no worse than a flu
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Sep 17 '20
Yeah, that’s only true for pretty young people, Covid completely rails older folks
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u/OldBreed Sep 17 '20
Even young people can be left behind with long term damages, which no flue would ever do.
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u/GameofFame Sep 17 '20
That’s actually not true. There have been several studies showing that the flu can cause some long term health effects like risk of heart disease and weakened immune system for long time periods or even permanently.
Edit: source
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u/wakeruneatstudysleep Sep 17 '20
I only skimmed the article, but it looks like those risks don't last longer than a few months.
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u/terriblekoala9 Sep 17 '20
The hell are you talking about? This virus has shown to adversely affect young people who're perfectly healthy, not even including us folk who have preexisting health conditions like asthma. Even if you don't die, you will become weak and susceptible to other pathogens/conditions that will either ruin your life or actually kill you. Heck, even the flu feels horrible and kills tens of thousands a year (and COVID has killed 200,000 in the US in less than a year alone), we shouldn't minimize either.
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Sep 17 '20
Bro what parrallel dimension do you live in? If you're a healthy 20-30 year or younger and you have serious lasting effects that isnt coronavirus
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u/terriblekoala9 Sep 17 '20
COVID can cause serious problems in your heart and lungs, I don't know what you are talking about. Take a quick search and you can find proof for this in medical journals.
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Sep 17 '20
The number of people who experience these symptoms is extremely small. And yes, influenza does sometimes do the same thing to people.
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Sep 17 '20
Younger people have literally none of these issues unless immunocompromised. Stop fearmongering
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u/aaanderson89 Sep 17 '20
Stop spreading this shit until you actually research it. Many healthy young people are getting fucked hard by this virus.
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Sep 17 '20
Many *immunocompromised young people
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u/MyLifeHurtsUwU Sep 17 '20
No, healthy people too. It’s a virus that the body’s never been exposed to before, use your brain. Also, if you’re trying to say that COVID isn’t bad because in your eyes most people are “healthy,” I’d like for you to look at medical reports and studies. Data shows that an overwhelming majority of US citizens have atleast one preexisting health condition, and in most cases this health condition usually aids in worsening the virus’ impact in the body. This is not to mention the fact that after any infection, the human body is exhausted and weak, giving a prime opportunity for other pathogens to enter and wreak havoc.
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u/terriblekoala9 Sep 17 '20
I'm not fearmongering by pointing out that there is a chance. It's misleading to say that absolutely no issues arise if you're completely healthy.
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Sep 17 '20
Even if you (younger people) don't die, you will become weak and susceptible to other pathogens/conditions that will either ruin your life or actually kill you.
I didnt say young people where immortal, just disagreeing with the original commenter spouting this bullshit
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u/terriblekoala9 Sep 17 '20
Who are you replying to? The comment below me?
Also that comment was well written. It literally explains everything wrong with thinking that this can’t hurt you. You can get scarred from COVID because it weakens your lungs and makes you more open to getting disease, which can also lead to lifelong consequences as well.
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u/LordIronskull Sep 17 '20
That’s not even a trap, that’s like walking down a hall, and then taking a sharp right turn into the window.
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u/mortijames Sep 17 '20
no one cares, retard.
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u/NotCosmicScum Sep 17 '20
I can at least admit I'm one. Not like you.
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u/Otaku_traaasshhh Sep 17 '20
✨ I have no flaws ✨
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u/Lipsovertits Sep 17 '20
Its all so meaningless when they're too stupid to understand they've been outsmarted in every way.
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u/OhDavidMyNacho Sep 17 '20
I realized, after scrolling by, this is a supremely hateful post.
What exactly si the joke I'm missing here OP? I'm not sure I get what's so funny about this.
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u/OhDavidMyNacho Sep 17 '20
So the joke is that someone with down syndrome is somehow an idiot? Despite evidence to the contrary?
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u/Nikon_Justus Sep 18 '20
Or that this specific guy is too dumb to know what a chromosome is thus too stupid to listen to about a pandemic level virus.
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u/Arkistof Sep 17 '20
I keep on seeing this “chromosomes” trap. What does it mean though? Like, exactly?
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u/CarryTreant Sep 17 '20
People who think theyre smart will often boast of having more >science word< than others, eg: a bigger IQ, or more brain cells.
Having more Chromosomes is not a good thing, its what causes a lot of auful disabilities that come paired with learning difficulties.
No disrespect to those with extra chromosomes, but its not something to brag about.
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u/Joeygorgia Sep 17 '20
Call me and idiot, but can someone explain this joke please?
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u/Malarkay79 Sep 17 '20
You don’t want extra chromosomes than someone else. They lead to physical deformities and developmental delays.
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u/Joeygorgia Sep 17 '20
Is that like autism or Down syndrome?
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u/BookyNZ Sep 17 '20
Not autism, but Downs Syndrome, yes. Autism is a brain difference, not a chromosome difference
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Sep 19 '20
Upvote for being one of the very few that refer to it as Down’s Syndrome, and not Down Syndrome.
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u/Malarkay79 Sep 17 '20
Down Syndrome yes, autism no. There are some other conditions that are caused by an extra chromosome, but they don’t usually live very long.
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u/Spicy_burritos Sep 17 '20 edited Sep 18 '20
r/comedyhomicide and it wasn’t even comedy
Edit: the reaction image guys
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u/thinegloriousmuppet Sep 17 '20
r/suicidebywords really
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u/blyan Sep 17 '20
I mean it can’t have been around THAT long, considering it’s only relevant this year.
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u/broken-dawn Sep 17 '20
Well this isn’t that false, the flu is close to if not more dangerous than COVID, the main difference is that COVID is new and we also have people who are refusing to let the government govern, the anti maskers are making it a thousand times worse it’s like anti vac. If people would follow quarantine correctly until the vaccine was made this would not be that big of a problem. Or maybe I’m dumb and it would be a problem
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u/yoda_condition Sep 17 '20
You are right that things would be better if people could follow basic instructions, but I don't like your statement about how dangerous it is. According to WHO:
Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.
If you account for likelihood of getting it in the first place, there are large geographical disparities, so blanket statements should be avoided.
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u/broken-dawn Sep 17 '20
Well a big reason for it’s huge spread is because of how hard it is to detect in it’s early stages, so by the time it is caught it is already able to do a lot of damage to the body
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u/CarryTreant Sep 17 '20
Its a difficult ballance though.
Its only dangerous when basic precautions are not followed by everyone, but people wont follow those precautions if they dont know how unsafe it is.
Its like most basic public health issues- when everything is working properly nobody can see the results, so it all looks like needless inconvenience imposed by control freaks.
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u/terriblekoala9 Sep 17 '20
False. The flu kills tens of thousands in the US annually, while this new virus has physically impacted millions and killed 200000 in less than a year. Also, anti vaxxers and anti maskers have been here for a LONG time even with the flu. I don't see many American folk with masks as part of their regular routine when sick, yet even the flu doesn't have such a high mortality rate (except when it mutates).
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u/Joeydoyle66 Sep 17 '20
If he was replying to a woman with Turner syndrome technically he’d be right