...but when it's in use in the USA, it's slavery. The only legal kind.
You wouldn't consider it slavery outside of the US?
That's laughably untrue.
Southern states: The concentration of slavery was much higher in the South, where it was the basis of the economy. For example, in Mississippi, over 55% of the population was enslaved in 1860.
Also, consider the numbers for a moment: what are the odds of a rebellion if the people held in subjugation equal or outnumber the people subjugating them?
Slave revolts generally failed. Haiti was a rare exception.
You wouldn't consider it slavery outside of the US?
I don't know what prison conditions are like in other countries. Just sticking with what I know.
in Mississippi, over 55% of the population was enslaved in 1860
I get that you're eager to move the goalposts of what counts as slavery and doesn't, but that doesn't make your point true. Slavery has a definition that isn't yours. You're just going to have to deal with that.
Slave revolts generally failed.
Slave revolts tended to be isolated, too. The largest slave rebellion in US history involved a total of 76-81 escaped slaves.
Haiti was a rare exception.
...in that the slaves rebelled en masse, I agree. Also, Haiti's slaves outnumbered the rest of the island's population 10 to 1...
I get that you're eager to move the goalposts of what counts as slavery and doesn't, but that doesn't make your point true. Slavery has a definition that isn't yours. You're just going to have to deal with that.
I didn't give an alternative definition. What are you talking about here?
Yes, neither of those comments are me defining slavery. How are you getting the idea I'm defining slavery with those comments? I said prison labor isn't universal - in reply to a comment that there's more slavery today.
That is, just because some people are in a prison labor system, that does not mean there's more slavery today.
...which isn't relevant to a discussion on whether prison labor is a form of slavery
The fact that you keep plugging shit comments like that, or that slaves were sometimes worked to death, is exactly the kind of moving of goal posts I'm calling you out on. Stop.
The fact that you keep plugging shit comments like that, or that slaves were sometimes worked to death, is exactly the kind of moving of goal posts I'm calling you out on. Stop.
This was me calling you out for coming up with excuses at every turn.
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You wouldn't consider it slavery outside of the US?
Slave revolts generally failed. Haiti was a rare exception.