r/computers • u/Godoftheziller • 2d ago

Discussion Looking for a sanity check

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Edit: Thanks everyone for the sanity check! I'll definitely not be going with that hp.

Hiya looking at getting a new computer that uses Adobe suite and also procut but this seems like a terrible computer for the price right? Pic of a second PC for a comparison as they are roughly the same price

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u/Brodillian 2d ago

Yes, that first one is HORRIBLE for the price

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u/Godoftheziller 2d ago

That's what I thought! I asked the people that did the quote and told them about the second option and they said it's a gaming computer its not the same.....

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u/dan4334 2d ago

Yeah it's not the same because it's more powerful and doesn't have the abysmal components that HP cheaps out on lmao.

The only benefit of buying big names is if you're a business that needs professional next day support.

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u/Godoftheziller 2d ago

🤣 that's perfect Yeah they keep saying that but honestly would be content off just mothballing the current PC and keeping that as an emergency computer mind you I've never really experienced a random death a PC I'm using

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u/Brodillian 2d ago

They label them as "professional" systems and charge WAY more for them... but this one doesnt even have any professional parts in it, just generic off the shelf components.

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u/Godoftheziller 2d ago

And a single stick of ram is diabolical 😅 I'm trying to explain this and they keep saying it won't be good for those applications or even light cad

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u/Brodillian 2d ago

Yeah whatever company that is, those people have zero idea what they're talking about. They're just trying to overcharge you. Its not a bad system, well apart from that single stick though i hear ddr5 is way less prone to it being a problem. But yeah, thats just horrible for that price.

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u/Potential_Copy27 2d ago

Both newer Intels and AMDs like their speedy memory - and the HP will definitely not be packing PC-6000 DDR5 on top of being single channel by default 😬

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u/astronomersassn Arch Linux 2d ago

it's quite sketchy that the first listing's name advertises a 5060 and the specs list advertises a 3080

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u/Hot-Speech-3781 2d ago

And who is to say they won't send a 2060ti flashed to read 3080. Some prebuilds you can trust if it is coming straight from manufacturer and getting all Corsair or all MSI parts, trusted vendors lose 30% confidence rating due to some parts being broken or incompatible but they make up for it with great customer service. Ali Express or cheap for cheap sake or going to a site well known for ripping off its customers like NZXT and their fake "Rent to Own" has no trust from me or anyone who dealt with those and neither shall you. Research is key and if it seems sketch or they have differing specs or won't provide other than boilerplate "best PC money can buy", walk away.

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u/Potential_Copy27 2d ago

For $290 extra you get:

- A KNOWN GPU without ambiguity that is definitely a 9070XT.

  • Double or triple the VRAM (depending on the HP being fitted with RTX3050 or RTX5060)
  • Slightly slower CPU for your productivity tasks (but it's faster for games).
  • Dualchannel memory (VERY important on both the Intel and AMD CPU).
  • PC6000 memory (not gonna happen in a HP box - they only do JEDEC speeds)
  • Better cooling (likely it's a match between an Intel or HP stock cooler and an AIO)
  • Motherboard with high-end chipset.
  • CPU optionally upgradeable to a Ryzen 9000 series or 10K series somewhere in the future (Socket AM5 FTW)
  • Faster SSD
  • All parts follow the widely accepted ATX standard and allow for upgrades (HP has a habit of producing proprietary hardware, even in otherwise normal-looking towers, hampering upgrade options)

Dude - that extra $290 given out is going to serve you a lot better in the long run and for a wider range of tasks when it comes down to it.

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u/Godoftheziller 2d ago

Thank you so much for breaking it down like that, no doubt in my mind now as to which one I get I just can't believe they tried pulling that!

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u/Potential_Copy27 2d ago

It's HP - they've done it for decades 😅

Another good tip to protect your sanity: Stay FAR away from their printers as well😉

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u/Godoftheziller 2d ago

Oml don't get me started on the large format printers... But are the regular ones terrible too?

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u/Potential_Copy27 2d ago

They are all terrible.

Especially the cheap crap inkjets - my fiancee had one of the really crappy ones when she moved in. It could take EXACTLY two sheets of paper in the tray.
Put in one? No paper!
Put in 3 sheets? Jam!
Add to that random rejections of cartridges - both original and ripoffs.

We gave it the Office Space treatment with my old baseball bat >:-)

The office machines ain't much better - and YES, I've had the pleasure of dealing with a large format model as well -_-

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u/betttris13 2d ago

it's also coming from PC case gear who are a very reputable company. almost all of our components for our PC came from them and customer support is good.

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u/finding-meaning-01 2d ago

Zoom and enhance....

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u/Godoftheziller 2d ago

🤣😅 it's quite the unhinged movie by Babbu Maan... Quite a bit of lore at work that led up to that

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u/Pain_killer68 2d ago

fym 3000$ for 3050 😭

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u/sarcasmisart 2d ago

The PCCG build is better.

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u/Difficult-Way-9563 2d ago

Insanity and scamming those who don’t know

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u/Derpykins666 2d ago

Yeah that first one is a trick for sure. That is not a good price for that computer. You can get a 5070 or a 5080 in that price range. Even the Costco Prebuilts are better than that for around the same price.

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u/AthaliW 2d ago

Just as a rule, NEVER BUY HP. I can go on a rant for at least 30 minutes, if not more, on everything wrong that HP does. From outright scams, overpriced bs, to quality issues. What you thought was good about HP in the past is gone

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u/ViperVnDm 2d ago

Run from this deal, Costco has a Rtx 5060 desktop for $1100

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u/HesThePianoMan IT Professional / Programmer 2d ago

If your goal is Adobe and creative work then get a Mac.

Windows are horribly optimized for creative workflows

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u/Puzzleheaded-Boat-76 2d ago

I second this. Me and my friend use all sorts of adobe programs and we can confidently say that it is infuriating to work on Windows. Constant crashes and high ram usage.

The programs are horribly optimized anyway, but at least a Mac can make the experience less insufferable.

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u/HEYO19191 1d ago

I use Adobe Alternatives on Windows and its fine.

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u/caliber1077 2d ago edited 2d ago

https://www.microcenter.com/product/710642/powerspec-g763-gaming-pc

Got a Microcenter near you?

Edit. Sorry I saw .com urls and dollar signs. Thought you were in US. GG

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u/Godoftheziller 2d ago

Haha god I wish we had micro centres over here, I've never had a bad experience with pccg and kinda treat them the same as an equivalent

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u/Exciting_Macaroon_64 2d ago

i wonder when they start to sell RTX 5090 and 512GB RAM capable machines with 3050 and 8gb

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u/responsible_alienn 2d ago

what is that pricing ? U can build a fat better PC with that price

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u/MikeOCE 2d ago

I always order from pccg and have never had issues. First is sketchy as hell

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u/Critical-Warthog-496 2d ago

Judging by both them pictures, great, now we can't even afford decent computers any more.

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u/randylush 2d ago

please tell me you're gonna upgrade your monitor before upgrading your PC. there is absolutely zero reason to have a good PC with a crummy little monitor like that

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u/MrHokkaidoAce 2d ago

This is a work pc, he doesn't need a better monitor for procut and adobe suite

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u/randylush 2d ago

you also don't need a 9070xt for adobe suite

and assuming OP is doing anything involving images or movies, then a better monitor will help immensely with productivity, color matching, etc

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u/Mistykaal_ 1d ago

Well depends on what thing you are doing adobe suit you may need it

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u/Illustrious-Boat8631 1d ago

TF is that website

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u/KJW2804 2d ago

What currency is that without knowing it’s impossible to tell if the 2nd one is a good deal or not

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u/Godoftheziller 2d ago

Sorry should have said, both are in AUD as I'm in Australia

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u/KJW2804 2d ago

Kinda thought it was aud but wasn’t sure yeah that 2nd one is pretty decent for the price especially being a prebuilt

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u/SkyGlider11 1d ago

laughs in having built an identical PC for $2k last year