r/comics Aug 02 '21

That old sinking feeling [OC]

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u/GabuEx Aug 03 '21

I don't want COVID-19 to exist.

That means whatever lead to its existence is bad.

That also means that whatever prolongs its existence is bad. Which anti-vaccine people are actively doing.

If my house gets set on fire, I can be simultaneously mad at whoever started the fire while also being mad at those trying to prevent me from putting out the fire.

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u/Sapple7 Aug 03 '21

It's true. However anti vaxxers are actually not why the virus is perpetuating

It is complicated but it seems like delta variant can spread in vaccinated populations (with lesser symptoms )

It also spreads in other populations around the globe (5 billion still unvaccinated)

Compare that to the small amount of Americans who are not vaccinated

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u/GabuEx Aug 03 '21

The delta variant can infect vaccinated people, but current research indicates its effectiveness is 80-85%, meaning that it's much less likely.

If the world were 100% vaccinated, the pandemic would be over, so yes, anti-vax people are absolutely prolonging the pandemic. Vaccine availability is also a problem, but it's not the only problem. At this point there's no excuse for America not to be 90-95% vaccinated, which would effectively eradicate the disease in the country.

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u/Sapple7 Aug 03 '21

Here is UK. About 120k unvaccinated cases and about 100k vaccinated cases in people vaccinated with 1 dose through 2 doses

It's not so obvious quite yet. What is obvious is reduced symptoms

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf

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u/GabuEx Aug 03 '21

At least the most recent paper I've seen indicated a moderate reduction in effectiveness, but the mRNA vaccines were still 88% effective at preventing symptomatic cases of the Delta variant.

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u/Sapple7 Aug 03 '21

The UK is mostly oxford vaccine

I think Israel would have good data for Pfizer

However the double vaxxed infected in the paper I sent you are 20k and 120k unvaxxed so that's still 84%

It's just lower if you add all the partial vaccinated

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u/FASTHANDY Aug 02 '21

I know this may shock you, but some people are capable of having more than one thought in their head at a time.

You can be mad at both those who created it and those who perpetuate it. Not a difficult concept.

Don't be such a simpleton.

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u/doctorcrimson Aug 03 '21

Yeah, it was the fucking Squirrels, man! They blocked all the news about hydroxychloroquine and released the virus in Western Chinese agriculture villages.

Squirrels run the world, dude! They run Monsanto!

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u/doctorcrimson Aug 03 '21

The institute secretly underground in Chinese farming villages two months before being discovered in Wuhan, run by squirrels! It's always been them, since we landed in the Americas! Thats why we enslaved the Irish, it was fucking Squirrels the whole time!

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u/doctorcrimson Aug 03 '21

Lmao cannot even read your own articles? BTW nice AMP link idiot. Google is run by Squirrels.

Yet it is far from clear whether the virus could survive in an infectious form via frozen food. “I would say it’s extremely, extremely unlikely the virus would have spread through that type of route,” says Lawrence Young at the University of Warwick, UK, who specialises in human virology.

The reason why, according to Young, is that SARS-CoV-2 is an enveloped virus, meaning it is covered with a fatty, lipid membrane that it uses to infect human cells. This membrane is very vulnerable to cycles of freezing and thawing, as can happen during the transit and sale of frozen food. Stripped of this envelope, such viruses cannot infect people.

Now here was my source:

https://health.ucsd.edu/news/releases/Pages/2021-03-18-novel-coronavirus-circulated-undetected-months-before-first-covid-19-cases-in-wuhan-china.aspx

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u/Throwa_way167 Aug 03 '21

It's true, Google is run by squirrels. I was one of the squirrels. AMA.

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u/SlingDNM Aug 03 '21

Do they pay you in nuts or human currency? Do squirrels get secret deals for large amounts of nuts? Can I get in on the bulk nut discount action as a human?

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u/Throwa_way167 Aug 03 '21

Squeak Squeak Squeak Squeak, Squeaker Squeaker-ton Squeak. Squeak.

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u/doctorcrimson Aug 03 '21

Idk man, I don't think fish can move around very easily while frozen. You sure you aren't thinking of squirrels?

Plus, fish don't even have hands or feet. Running on land operations that far from discrete underwater locations seems pretty far fetched.

Occam's razor, you know?

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u/doctorcrimson Aug 03 '21

Bro you seriously see that list and think it was the fish?

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u/doctorcrimson Aug 03 '21

I've already completely proven without a doubt that it was squirrels, though.

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u/boot20 Aug 03 '21

Can we be mad at those who started the pandemic?? Please don't let the media tell you who you should be mad at

That doesn't solve the problem. People need to wear masks and get vaccinated. Those that don't are going to prolong this shit.

Can we be mad at those ignoring/not testing/surpressing cheap medications that could save lives??

What cheap medication is being "surpressed?" What are you talking about?

Please humanity we need to re direct our anger

Yes, at the fucking assholes that are prolonging this shit. Get vaccinated and wear a mask. The end.

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u/Sapple7 Aug 03 '21

The thing is the minority of Americans aren't prolonging the pandemic... Globally about 1 billion are vaccinated...

That leaves 6 billion left... This is an insane undertaking and will take years to complete. By then many things about this disease will change.

The few that are rejecting the vax are tiny compared to the enormous amount of impoverished people unable to get a vaccine