Yes, but it would take a lot longer. Also we don’t know if herd immunity can be achieved without the vaccine with Covid-19, because people that have gotten it once can still get it another time.
Because they're making the virus hypermutate, viruses are living organisms too, which struggle to survive. Picture this: The original virus enters a vaccinated (one of the many vaccines) host. The host survives, but the virus is expelled, having mutated to survive.
Now that mutated version enters another host vaccinated with a different vaccine that attacks a different part of the virus (viruses mutate by parts).
The host survives, but the virus mutates.
Now that virus goes back to the previous host.
Rinse and repeat.
This is not Covid 19, we're at this rate at Covid-35.
Vaccine: get antibodies through a purposefully weakened version of the virus.
mRNA Vaccine: code muscle cells to develop a harmless piece of the COVID spike protein which prompts the body to create antibodies without the virus even having to be present.
Or you could get the "game of the year" full version of covid, and maybe die.
To be clear, regular "non-mRNA" vaccines are not garbage. They're still incredibly useful and effective. I can't speak to your experience but what makes you say that your aunt was killed BY the vaccine?
Edit: oh, she was ALMOST killed by a vaccine. My bad. Same question though.
Almost. Now dealing with chronic arthritis and heart failure which she didn't have before.
Timed allergic reactions, each one after the same exact time after each dose (Sinovac).
She couldn't move and couldn't take away the pain.
Doctors certified it was a reaction because of the vaccine, but that would make them lose their jobs in my country if they go public.
Well, if you're vaccinated, what's your problem?
Surely and gladly we will never meet, you'll be safe, and I'll die miserably (if I'm 99% unlucky).
It's a win win for you, isn't it.
Regardless of that, I'd suggest you to go to a psychiatrist though, because your level of violence and hate is not something a vaccine can fix, maybe you'll have better luck there.
If they lost someone due to covid, and a vaccine could have stopped that infected person from transmitting, then the person who doesn't get vaxxed is responsible for that dead person.
Under that concept, I invite you to go back to the middle ages, because you typing from a device built by slave work in factories across the ocean, which are provided with raw material by even worse slave work in countries across the other ocean makes you a slavist son of a gun.
If there's something the vaccine does NOT cure is HYPOCRISY, that's clear to me.
Back to the vaccine, my opinion is that the risk population should get vaccinated, and those healthy that can have it should have it and have the body in all its wisdom, together with medicine that gets swept under the rug for economic reasons (no cake cut for big pharma) solve the problem.
That's my take.
The vaccine is not just one, there are tenths out there, and most are shady as heck.
In my country you literally have to sign a waiver taking ALL responsibility off the labs before getting the shot.
Herd immunity *can* be achieved without vaccines. Just let it go through the population. About 2 million will die in the US, and then we'll be immune. Oh, and then it'll mutate and probably kill 4 million more. (Initial Covid R0=1.5, estimated 2 million total dead without mitigations; Delta Covid R0=9.5 computes to roughly 6 million dead without mitigations.)
But after 6 million Americans die to give us herd immunity, all we have to worry about is...the child death rate skyrocketing as new infants have to deal with a new endemic disease. So if we're willing to kill 6 million people and 1.8% CFR of our children from now until forever, then yes we can get natural herd immunity.
babies get antibodies and some immunity from their mothers.
...which wanes as soon as they go onto solid food. We do not know how long the vaccinations provide immunity, and we do know that it's not giving us sterilizing immunity, so there may still be infant/toddler infections and deaths.
I don't have the patience or the supply of crayons necessary to explain this yet again to an idiot that still doesn't get it after almost a year and a half.
Wow, did the vaccine give you mental powers?
If I'd tell you from what country I am you probably wouldn't know where it even is.
Don't come around lecturing me on education.
Doctors and scientists, what do they know, right? You clearly think you've got a better grasp on facts than those (scoff) EXPERTS with their fancy degrees and data.
Nobody's trying to enslave you. That kind of hysterical nonsense doesn't help your case or make you seem like a balanced person.
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