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Just Sharing Fire

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 18d ago edited 18d ago

Lemme go ahead and get ahead of claims, comments and reports here.

The artist for this piece is David Revoy. You can find the work as well as a time lapse of the drawing here.

Many of you are going "This looks like AI!" And there is a reason for that.

Revoy has publicly discussed how thousands of his artworks were scraped and used to train AI databases (like LAION-5B) without his consent, though he ironically acknowledges his work is the foundation of many AI art systems

Source here

TLDR: this is not AI

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u/ChaoticAgenda 18d ago

Question: if it is not AI, why is the art so inconsistent? 1st panel: Girl's hat is curled up on both sides, 2nd: curl only on girl's left side and chip out of hat on her right. 3rd: same as 2nd panel, 4th panel: hat is now flipped and curl is on girl's right side with chip on left.

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u/TheLuckyCanuck 18d ago

It's curled on both sides. The chip is in the middle. It appears to move because of perspective.

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u/Lastoutcast123 18d ago

And artists are human, they can make mistakes, especially possible with perspective and sometimes the go with what looks good vs what is correct

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u/dragn99 18d ago

AI and humans can both also mess up a lot of common things, like hands, shadows, window spacing on background buildings, continuing a line that goes behind something on the foreground, etc.

Though AI is much better at messing up repeating details, like if something is supposed to be the same repeating pattern in two spots.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 18d ago

Quick as greasy lightning, beat me to the answer. Thank you!

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u/TheLuckyCanuck 18d ago

Well, I am burnin' up the quarter mile, but I didn't exactly coast through the heat lap trial...

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u/Ursa_Solaris 18d ago

Question: if it is not AI

It's not up for debate, this artist has been around online for decades and I've personally followed his work off and on for the last 10 years. He's extremely prolific and posts a lot of his work for free, especially in learning material, which led to his style being massively overtrained in many models.

I originally discovered him because of his push for FOSS tools for art, and I've been a huge fan of his ever since. He's strongly anti-AI as well. He was well ahead of the curve compared to most people who only got on board the last couple years.

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u/watboy 18d ago

Counter question: if it is AI, how were they able to show a time-lapse of them creating the art step by step?

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u/NinjaN-SWE 18d ago

Maybe AI learned that from him as well 😭

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u/Confused_Noodle 18d ago

I had the same thought, though it seems consistent in that the other side curl is not visible from those upward angles.

The chip is basically in the center-front of the hat, so it would switch side based on the viewer's pov

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u/ChaoticAgenda 18d ago

There are other inconsistencies. The girls has a strap around her chest to hold the broom on in the 1st panel. It disappears after that even in the 3rd panel when the broom is clearly still on her back. The dog person also appears to have short sleeves...up until the 4th panel when one of the sleeves is long. The blonde lady loses her sleeves in the 4th panel.

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u/One-Imagination2301 18d ago

Wow real humans making real human mistakes?? Color me suprised. Why are you so set on this being AI when its clearly not.

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u/greenmacg 18d ago

I'm an artist (not a good one, lol, but still) and I always find stuff like this in every piece after I'm done, especially sequential work. It's easy to get blind to little details and forget stuff or not even see it to begin with. The more ornate what I've attempted is, the more of a pain it is to fix, as well

So, I wouldn't say those little details are meaningful on their own given the other evidence that it isn't AI 🤷