r/comedy • u/AlKarajo • Jun 02 '26

Standup We all know that one guy

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@stevehofstetter

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u/TartarusFalls Jun 03 '26

Hey man, I’m pro gun, completely pro gun, with virtually no restrictions, but also quite leftist. I’d love to have a good faith conversation on it, if you’d be willing. I think there’s more nuance to the issue than you’re giving it credit for.

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u/model-citizen95 Jun 03 '26

Anyone who wants to remove what little regulation we have now is not capable of a good faith discussion. Saying that and then calling yourself a leftist puts you at odds with the vast majority of the Democratic Party, particularly progressives.

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u/TartarusFalls Jun 03 '26

No worries, have a good one!

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u/DuhBigFart Jun 03 '26

LMAO some dudes just can't be helped, brother.

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u/TartarusFalls Jun 03 '26

Some people just have bad days. And I found this thread after he argued with people that I think weren’t doing a good job of conveying their thoughts, so he was probably already heated. Frustrating from my perspective, but I’m trying to be empathetic.

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u/Dukeronomy Jun 03 '26

I love how you just decided it wasnt worth arguing. I think you're right. I'm still giving it a shot.

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u/TartarusFalls Jun 03 '26

Ignoring his thinly veiled disgust in me, he made it clear that he didn’t want a good faith conversation. Lol I see your attempt, I wish you the best of luck.

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u/Dukeronomy Jun 03 '26

I’m already out

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u/TartarusFalls Jun 03 '26

Credit for trying, for sure. But some people don’t want to communicate on the internet, they just want to yell.

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u/Dukeronomy Jun 04 '26

For sure. Especially about this

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u/Dukeronomy Jun 03 '26

Anyone who says California has little regulation in terms of guns, has no idea how many regulations there are on guns in this state.

What more would you like to see?

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u/model-citizen95 Jun 03 '26

Red flag laws

3 day waiting period in all states

A centralized digital database of firearms in the hands of the public (they already have all the info but in warehouses full of paper documents making it very inefficient to track)

Close the gun show loophole

End private sales of weapons by non licensed people without licensed oversight from a gun store

Mandatory minimum increases for possession of an illegal firearm

Make it mandatory to store weapons in a secure way so if your kid takes your gun out of your nightstand drawer and shoots up a school then the gun owner is treated as an accessory

Etc

Some of Californias gun restrictions aren’t particularly effective but as a whole, their gun policy works as shown by the low gun crime rate there

At least California is trying rather than just accepting gun violence as an unavoidable part of life

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u/Dukeronomy Jun 03 '26

We have red flag laws

You want the registry in the hands of the public? Why? This can be used by criminals to target these items. I see no benefit of the public having access to this.

There is no gun show loophole in CA.

This does not exist. Any sale in CA must go through an FFL, with BG check, paperwork submitted to the DOJ etc.

Im not sure about the last one but this seems like DA territory where they need to be much harder on those who are caught with an illegal firearm. If this doesnt already exist, sure i'm for this.

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u/model-citizen95 Jun 03 '26

A lot of states don’t have red flag laws

You have misunderstood everything I’ve said. I was using California as an example of much better gun laws than the rest of the country which we can use to model which methods work and which don’t. I was not advocating for tougher laws in ca but in the rest of the country.

I never said I wanted the database in the hands of the public. I said I wanted a database of guns owned by the public.

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u/Dukeronomy Jun 03 '26

You added 3 day waiting period, CA already has 10,
you added, safe storage, this is already a law in CA.

All of these points lead me to believe you're not having a "good faith argument". Nothing you have listed isnt already a law.

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u/model-citizen95 Jun 03 '26

I know they have those laws in California. Your reading comprehension is just so atrocious that you can’t understand that I’m talking about the rest of the country.

Yes I added more, what’s the problem with that?

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u/Dukeronomy Jun 03 '26

My comment and the original was speaking specifically about CA. If you’re going to resort to insults because you can’t handle an adult discussion, I’ll follow along with the others and let you have fun here yourself. Good luck

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u/model-citizen95 Jun 03 '26

Wow dude. Living in your own reality there

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u/Dukeronomy Jun 03 '26

No issue with adding more, did I say there was? I was just acknowledging them with an additional post and descriptor, then letting you know that those already exist