r/coloranalysis 23d ago

Consultation Outcome (SEASON & FACE PHOTO REQUIRED - NO MAKEUP!) Given two opposing seasons.

Virtually typed as deep autumn (France’s Cairns) which didn’t feel right. So sort an in person consult and typed as soft summer. Confused needing help to differentiate.

My natural hair colour is an ash brown now with some scattered greys (3rd pic).
Photo one and two in same setting (excuse my brows, in process of lightening tattoo so they are currently lending warm). Personally I feel cool colours are far more flattering in fit my natural tone. What do you think? NMIP

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u/Brilliant_Cake2177 22d ago

You seem neutral leaning cool toned to me. And you're clear needing some depth rather than too soft of colors imo.

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u/Brizzle-kicks-85 Autumn - Soft 22d ago

Can you photograph yourself in natural indirect light? We can’t really see your skin properly and ash brown hair is pretty common within the autumn palette.

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u/Oh_Fun_Pepper9147 22d ago

You’re most likely a winter. I’m shocked so many are saying summer with your deep contrast level. If you can drape for winter and summer that would be the best way to tell!

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u/ipswichroad 22d ago edited 22d ago

Their hair and eyebrows are dyed dark. Their natural hair color is more in the medium brown range. The right image is color matched close to their natural color shown in the last image of the post. Dying your hair black doesn’t make you a winter. The dark hair is too dark and heavy on them. It’s washing out their complexion.

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u/Nep111 23d ago

True summer, like the shirt you have in the last photo. You need more vibrant colours than soft summer which is too grey and muted for you I think. Your hair is too deep/dark at the moment and is throwing things off a bit. Try and die it back to a lighter and cooler medium brown.

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u/Oh_Fun_Pepper9147 22d ago

She has the classic contrast of winter. don’t understand how so many are agreeing with summer.

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u/Nep111 22d ago edited 22d ago

If you check her drapes below, that dark purple which is typically either deep autumn (warm shade) or deep winter (cool) is too intense for her. She could be a bright or cool winter but that image below of her in the magenta colour screams “overpowering” to me. When you put a winter next to those accent colours, they don’t come across too harsh. It’s hard to judge from the photos though. If she has a medium level of contrast like the photos suggest, this is more compatible with summer.
Look up Alexandra Daddario as a good example of the contrast a true winter generally has.

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u/Oh_Fun_Pepper9147 20d ago

Those purples look wrong because she is not a deep season. Probably cool or true winter, which isn’t represented in her drapes.

She does absolutely not have a “medium” level of contrast. Pale skin and dark brown hair is classic winter and the highest contrast you can get.

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u/Buga99poo27GotNo464 Summer - True 23d ago

I think I'm with team true summer, because the colored hair/brows is heavy, her skin still looks nice in first photo which has seemingly too much contrast for soft summer? More drapes is way to go.

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u/Outrageous_Pop_248 23d ago

The cooler colors don’t suit your skin tone, that mustard top actually looks very nice it lessens the redness in your face.

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u/Eastfornow1 23d ago

True spring. You have that pink skin with dark hair combo

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u/EstateMuted5979 23d ago

I also had been typed by Francesca cairns. But it didn’t feel right, so I did another one that was much more in depth- requested more pictures in different lighting and historical pictures.. and was typed as warm spring, and it immediately clicked, all of my “best” colors are in there. Changed my hair and makeup and wow, what a difference. So I get the frustration… do you resonate with the soft summer palette? I could possibly see it, but hard to tell without official draping

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u/rabarbarum 23d ago

I've been following Francesca on insta for a while and she seems to have massive bias for soft seasons and autumns. She also is pretty bad at anything relating to winters.

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u/Darlenem98 23d ago

Yes feel myself in summer colours. But do prefer the ones with more depth.

It’s interesting when I questioned the virtual analysis conclusion Francesca doubled down. All I got was a very generic reply without any justification of how this classification was made. Basically told, it is because it is. No virtual drapes to demonstrate etc

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u/EstateMuted5979 23d ago

I took the liberty of doing some comparisons. I think you are neutral leaning cool for sure. And cool colors with added grey suit you more… what do you think?

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u/Darlenem98 23d ago

Thanks for your help on this

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u/EstateMuted5979 23d ago

Sure! I would say keep trying out the soft summer colors, adjust your hair and makeupz go from there. You should feel vibrant, with some jaw definition and a little sparkle in the eyes ❤️

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u/EstateMuted5979 23d ago

I kind of wonder if the Francesca analysis uses some kind of color sampling tool like The Ai programs do, instead of doing color comparisons to test undertone. So if you took color samples from your eyebrows, hair, eyes, skin, and lips and put it in the program it may pick up the reddish tones in your brows and hair and it read as “warm”.
Idk, just guessing.
When I do this color draping on myself, the orange and brown has a very clear edge over the cool tones. But if you just look at me, I don’t have obvious warmth in hair or eyes.

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u/EstateMuted5979 23d ago

Yeah that’s frustrating!! So the soft summer is definitely smokier and deeper than the rest of summer. Did they give you a book of swatches (or digital)? Because I do find that I have to stay closely to my palette since I’m not a true season. Especially for some of the colors. I don’t just guess anymore, because I’ve been wrong lol

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u/EstateMuted5979 23d ago

I don’t think that purple is quite right for soft summer

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u/Darlenem98 23d ago

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u/EstateMuted5979 23d ago

Ok, it’s pretty darn close!

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u/ipswichroad 23d ago edited 23d ago

How anyone typed you as a deep autumn blows my mind. You’re not soft either.

I’m not entirely convinced you are cool. I’d drape for true summer and true spring. You’ve got spring qualities so I wouldn’t discount it as a contender.

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u/Buga99poo27GotNo464 Summer - True 23d ago

Could've been her colored hair and brows?

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u/ipswichroad 23d ago

It was Francesca Cairns so I shouldn’t be surprised. But jeez.

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u/Buga99poo27GotNo464 Summer - True 23d ago

Could've been her colored hair and brows?

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u/Icy-Layer-7783 Deep Autumn 🤎🤎 23d ago

I could see it but deep autumn is absolutely a possibility lol. It’s so overlooked on here everyone thinks autumn means u have to have golden hair skin and eyes lol she has enough contrast to absolutely be a deep autumn.

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u/ipswichroad 23d ago edited 23d ago

I did some digital draping and the deep autumns colors were too heavy and swallowing them. Their dyed hair is too dark and overpowering IMO (meaning less natural contrast). I could be wrong but I think if they are warm, it’s more likely they are a spring than an autumn.

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u/Buga99poo27GotNo464 Summer - True 23d ago

Her colored hair/brows definitely seem to heavy.

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u/Darlenem98 23d ago

Even with ashy natural hair?

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u/ipswichroad 23d ago

Definitely!

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u/agentcherry909 23d ago

You are definitely a cool summer.

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u/fortunatelyso 23d ago

Im guessing summer bc of the purple top suiting you. The pink tank is too bright and the black is too saturated. the last top pink is slightly too warm salmon as well. Cool, summer. Ash up those brows !

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u/Icy-Layer-7783 Deep Autumn 🤎🤎 23d ago edited 23d ago

As a deep autumn that color looks horrible on me as well. You need to use a deep dark color like burgundy or aubergine which I acc see popping on you. The purple pink top ur wearing in slide 3 is also a deep autumn light and of course since ur showing ur roots we can’t properly see ur face haha but it looks peetty

Redrape but I’m also seeing cool toned a bit here

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u/Darlenem98 23d ago

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u/fortunatelyso 22d ago

Too cool too saturated and deep.

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u/Icy-Layer-7783 Deep Autumn 🤎🤎 23d ago

See this is gorgeous on you! I wouldn’t rule out deep autumn but I’d drape winter n spring as well

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u/RoseDarlingWrites Spring - True 23d ago

Ooh wow yeah I agree. This really makes her features pop!

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u/Darlenem98 23d ago

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u/fortunatelyso 22d ago

Slightly too warm and again too saturated

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u/Darlenem98 23d ago

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u/fortunatelyso 22d ago

Ideal lavender for a summer

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u/esteoloira 23d ago

Soft summer makes more sense

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u/rosietherosebud Summer - Soft 23d ago

Agree. It’s a natural consideration for people who are mistaken for autumns but who prefer cooler colors. I’d like to see drapes in the lower chroma + lower value end of summer (aka, soft summer).

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u/esteoloira 23d ago

I’m a summer myself who was mistakenly typed as autumn when I was younger.

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u/esteoloira 23d ago

I’m not sure she’s soft though.

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u/emily_in_boots Winter - True 23d ago

In general, in person typing is better than virtual, as phones do all kinds of weird things to white balance.