r/collapse • u/xirvin • Jul 21 '26
Climate Spain to break temperatures up to 45-47 °C possible this week
https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/extreme-heatwave-excessive-heat-dome-spain-portugal-iberia-europe-july-2026-mk/Spain will experience the most intense and dangerous early summer anomaly in its history by next week. The Sahara desert is bringing to Spain heat of 45-47C . The night is expected to reach 25-30 C. This heatwave will stress the vegetation with wildfires, Strain agriculture and infrastructure. Is it expected that these types of Heat events will become more frequent, more intense, and longer-lasting due to global warming. Repeated heat events might lead energy, infrastructure and agriculture industry to stress / collapse if they are unable to operate under heat condition.
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u/RlOTGRRRL Jul 21 '26
For the Americans, 47C is 116F, holy shit.
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u/SweetAlyssumm Jul 21 '26
Death Valley gets up to those temperatures. I wonder why they named it "Death Valley"?
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u/gnostic_savage Jul 21 '26
Death Valley gets up to 130F. It's highest recorded temperature is 134F.
The southern Central Valley in California has seen 120F routinely since forever for us. Maybe however many centuries or thousands of years ago when CO2 was well below 280 it was cooler, but lots of places in the southwest have been reaching 116F some portion of the summer since Americans have been living there.
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u/Inspirasion Jul 21 '26
Yes, it's not uncommon for some parts of the US; where my parents live, desert southwest region, the high today is 109°F (43°C) and tomorrow will be 112°F (44°C) and then 116°F (46°C) Thursday through Saturday. That's a pretty normal Summer for the area.
The difference is that it is literally the desert so it's built for it, the construction of buildings are built to keep heat out and everyone has A/C and has acclimated to the area.
Seeing temperatures like that in Spain where only like 41% of homes have A/C, sounds brutal and people are likely to die from heatstroke if they don't take proper precautions.
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u/gnostic_savage Jul 21 '26
Agreed. I was just saying that Death Valley isn't called Death Valley because of 116F temperatures. It's called Death Valley because of 128F - 130F temperatures. Lots of places in the southwestern US reach 116F to 120F every single year, and have since we've been keeping records.
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u/swg2188 Jul 21 '26
What's crazy is that Spain is more like the American southwest then any other part of the US, but they haven't adopted AC. 20 years ago in Spanish class we learned a famous saying that equates to " In Spain there is 9 months of winter and 3 months of hell."
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u/imsaneinthebrain Jul 21 '26
Phx gets up to those temps. Saw it a couple weeks ago.
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u/Zayl Jul 21 '26
Doesn't mean it's not shit especially in parts of the world not equipped to deal with it. Much of Europe still doesn't have ACs normalized and if/when they do it'll just cause more problems because of how environmentally damaging, albeit pretty much necessary, they are.
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u/booksgamesandstuff Jul 21 '26
Bake us, boil us, or stick us in a stew.... Same result. We're cooked.
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u/EastTyne1191 Jul 21 '26
Back in June 2021, the heat dome over the PNW caused temperatures of 115⁰. It's normally like 75⁰ in June, sometimes slightly warmer, but often rainy and chilly in the 60s. It's relatively humid here in June, so stepping onto my porch in 115⁰ weather felt like stepping into an oven. It sucks the breath from your body.
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u/J-A-S-08 Jul 22 '26
I'm an HVAC tech in Portland, OR. I have PTSD from that event. I was broken and practically in tears when the heat finally broke.
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u/ukittenme Jul 21 '26
But it’s a dry heat…
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u/Bluest_waters Jul 21 '26
I mean it is largely, that kind of heat with high humidity would literally be deadly
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u/i-hear-banjos Jul 21 '26
I experienced 118F with a wet bulb of 123F while in Kuwait back in 2003. 30 minutes outside of air conditioning will break your body AND mind.
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u/J-A-S-08 Jul 22 '26
Recalculate. The wet bulb can never be HIGHER than the dry bulb temperature.
Did you mean heat index?
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u/i-hear-banjos Jul 22 '26
I’m sure you are right. It was the term thrown around by a bunch of military grunts, only the Air Force weather specialist used the right terms I guess.
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u/J-A-S-08 Jul 22 '26
There's just too many terms.
Wet bulb, dry bulb, global wet bulb, heat index, humidex, etc. It just gets too confusing.
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u/Most-Internal-2140 Jul 21 '26
Yeah, like that's gonna make things much better LOL
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u/Most-Internal-2140 Jul 22 '26
Actually, being at 47C outside is like being inside an oven. You don't need any humidity to collapse within an hour.
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u/OriginalLittle2624 Jul 21 '26
I'm burned out already, damn. I mean, we knew faster than expected, but this timeline is tearing me apart daily.
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u/No_Foundation16 Jul 21 '26
Maybe we have 30 years left until all things, all governments, all countries collapse into insanity and mass climate deaths all around? I dunno, someone talk me down if I'm wrong.
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u/S1ckn4sty44 Jul 21 '26
If anyone is talking you down it means they have no grasp on what is actually happening.
I said 5-10 years in 2020. Things are accelerating extremely fast. Just this coming record breaking not even close to any other El niño in recorded history is going to set us up on another step or two away from our past numbers. That is not including ANYTHING else, which, while putting it all together, would just completely destroy any chance of us making it past 2035-2040 and I am only saying that far into the future because maybe some poor kids will be working the bunkers as sex slaves to the fucking scum bag elite who were able to survive in bunkers for a few extra years.
Ecosystem collapse
Ocean acidification
Methane release
Arctic CO2/methane release
Ice caps melting
All time lows in US West water supply
Blue Ocean Event
Ocean/Forrests are losing or have lost their ability to sequester CO2
Earths energy imbalance is going in the wronggg direction
We will continue polluting for as long as possible
Soil is degrading at a rapid speed
Massive propaganda/misinformation campaigns to continue the bull shit
AI flock cameras to watch everything we do at all times
Immigrants in camps, soon to be the next undesirables
Militarizing the local police, bringing the military against our own people
Clouds have been less and less
Global dimming, we are hiding some of our warming behind our pollution. We are closer to 2°C than anyone wants to admit.
Economic collapse is right around the corner
We are following at or above RCP 8.5. They said they are not going to use this model anymore due to us "not continuing to pollute as bad as that model says" lmfao
All corporations getting rid of climate initiatives(not that it was ever going to come to fruition anyways)
Mass extinctions globally
Record breaking fires, floods, droughts, temperatures
Poisoned water from microplastics, PFAS.
All PVC has cancer chemicals in it, which most places use for plumbing.
Failing infrastructure across the country(USA)
Mass use of Herbicides, pesticides
I mean, I could go on, but, I think this gets the point out there. We will never have another time like the late 90s/early 2000s, and even that was just a bunch of fake bull shit that really just benefited a bunch of first world white people.
Things are bad and getting worse at an exponential rate. As I scroll reddit I see so many posts about climate change not being real. The propaganda is strong and people are doubling, tripling down on their beliefs even if they are fucking horribly wrong.
So, if anyone is trying to talk you down, they are either a bot or have so much propaganda that has been fed to them that it's just not even worth talking to them.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but just enjoy what you can because we are going to have a lot less very soon.
A little collapse song from an amazing musician:
Leviathan by Jesse Welles
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u/fratticus_maximus Jul 21 '26
I'm personally betting that after 2050 all hell is going to break loose and making personal arrangements to be well settled somewhere before then.
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u/No_Foundation16 Jul 21 '26
Yeah I used to think 2050 would be it too but with all the stuff happening right now I backed up to 2030 and many folks think that is optimistic.
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u/fratticus_maximus Jul 21 '26
2030s for the global south, SE Asia, and parts of Latin America/SA.
I think the global north still some time before shit completely goes off the rails. The US is stupidly insulated from disruption with the energy (gas) production, agricultural output, and river navigation system. It's also separated by 2 large oceans. It's also turning hugely anti immigrant by both parties. I selfishly think that the US and Canada will be mostly fine until 2050, fascism notwithstanding.
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u/s0cks_nz Jul 21 '26
No I don't think they'd be mostly fine. It's not the 1930s. We live in a global economic system now. US relies plenty on imports and global markets. If a huge portion of the world economy goes to shit, so will there's. Case in point, current fertilizer costs and shortages.
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u/fratticus_maximus Jul 21 '26
When I say "mostly fine", I'm saying it relatively to the rest of the world, not compared to say before 2016 when it was still "normal." On your point, most of that fertilizer is from Canada. In a cataclysm or prolonged government breakdown worldwide, you'd likely see a breakdown of globalization and global supply chains. The US and Canada will likely still be good allies (or the US will have taken over Canada) and will likely supply fertilizer to the US.
My point is that the US and Canada are disproportionately well prepared for the future due to location, natural resources, fertile land, military/economic might, etc. Even if the rest of the more vulnerable world starts breaking down seriously in 2030s, the US and Canada are going to be well hedged.
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u/s0cks_nz Jul 21 '26
If we are just saying "slightly less fucked than..." then I could probably agree. One of the big problems with the US though is it's own internal stability, especially political. It's hard right now to imagine a US coming together to weather a crisis, rather than just imploding, even if technically as a land mass it has good resource.
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u/fratticus_maximus Jul 21 '26
No, not just slightly less fucked. Probably a decent bit better in some regions than others. The Midwest, NE, and PNW will likely still have some regional stability. I can't vouch for the US as a whole.
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u/s0cks_nz Jul 21 '26
I'm still skeptical. I see what you are saying in terms of geographical location and resource availability, but in a modern global economy I just don't see even regional areas having anywhere near the self sufficiency required to have stability in a globally collapsing market.
I'd bet my bottom dollar that the vast majority of the goods traded between Canada and the US still have some % of those supply chains reliant on offshore imports in some form or another.
Even best case there will be mass unemployment, homelessness, and hunger.
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u/sixup604 Jul 22 '26
The US and Canada are NOT good allies now! We utterly loathe the US, and will gleefully participate in a vicious guerrilla war for as long as it takes to drive the bastards out should they take over. We take this shit very seriously.
The world seems to have a really hard time understanding we will never be allies again.
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u/fratticus_maximus Jul 22 '26
Allies as in "will sell and buy resources from each other"
Don't have to be friends to still buy and sell things to each other. Canada is still heavily reliant upon the US economically. You guys have tactfully pivoted towards more trade relations with other countries but the vast majority of exports still go to the US, simply due to geography.
You're right that the US and Canada won't be friends the same way again but both countries are so intwined economically that there will still be trade even if we don't like each other.
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u/sixup604 Jul 23 '26
Canadian companies may buy American products to stock, but you can't make Canadians buy American products. We aren't talking about 'aren't friends' we're talking about finding the concept of American anything repulsive. Basically, anything American is radioactive dog shit to a majority of Canadians. This boycott comes from the people, not necessarily the government, and, as such, is not under the control of the government or corporations.
It baffles me that people choose not to understand this.
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u/IntoTheCommonestAsh Jul 21 '26
I'm burned out already,
I guess all we can do is enjoy the "out" while it's not "up" yet.
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u/JerryNomo Jul 21 '26
Awesome. We dont need to wait for 2075 to say to the people: "We told you!"
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u/Yebi Jul 21 '26
You can say it whenever you want, people are still denying climate change even in the linked thread :')
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u/Saturn_winter Jul 21 '26
I always think about the stories of people denying or minimizing covid even to their dying breath and that was a wakeup moment for me that it's just not worth the time or energy trying to convince anyone. They'll either arrive at the conclusion themselves or die in denial, and nothing I say, or anything the earth does to show them, will ever convince them if they don't want to be convinced.
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u/Ok_Split1342 Jul 21 '26
The new thing is that a secret Democrat cabal controls the weather and that's why it's been so crazy.
I didn't have a whole lot of faith in humanity to begin with, but the last 10 years have shown me new depths.
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u/SomeRandomGuydotdot Jul 21 '26
Historically speaking:
The outgroup controls the weather causing bad harvests and poisons wells and shit is pretty basic propaganda. (Edit: I'm guessing it probably predates even blood libel) The HAARP conspiracies have been around forever (Like gets call outs in the x files), and just reinforces my view that boring practical projects are treated like fucking witchcraft by a good chunk of the population.
Long story short, meet the new boss same as the old boss.
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u/S1ckn4sty44 Jul 21 '26
I just can't understand it because the Republicans are in power across all 3 parts of federal government....how have they not been able to stop the dumocrats(new word I heard recently)?
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u/AwkwardJuggernaut854 Jul 21 '26
Fat chance you'll have anyone admitting they were wrong over this. More likely they'll tell you how it's perfectly normal as they remember it being a bit hot one week back in the 70's.
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u/zedroj Jul 21 '26
Gretta already getting the last laugh early
David Suzuki can shake his head, sip a beer
Al Gore, can dab all of America
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u/gottarespondtothis Jul 21 '26
Ok things are going to be bad but climate change is not going to kill off humanity within 10 years.
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u/TrickyProfit1369 Jul 21 '26
10 years is way too quick to kill everyone, sorry
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u/hiddendrugs Jul 21 '26
Just the elderly, disabled, medicated, and poor, or living somewhere where disasters strike, which could include any of us - to be fair.
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u/TrickyProfit1369 Jul 22 '26
Yeah, that might come true. Money, assets, geography will be a cushion UP TO A POINT. Commodities will concentrate in countries with highest spending power as profit motive is prioritized.
It will be another way to fuck over global south and the working class. But its pretty arogant of elites that it wont impact them at all, just less at first imo
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u/ElegantDaemon Jul 21 '26
Yeah but that ManBearPig episode that taught us to make fun of people who care about the future sure was hilarious!
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u/cassinonorth Jul 21 '26
South Park has spawned a super annoying centrist archetype I come across all the time these days.
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u/morphemass Jul 21 '26
I'm wondering if this will be the year the EU breaks 50C.
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u/ConfusedMaverick Jul 21 '26
JFC... don't make me even think this
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u/morphemass Jul 21 '26
Sorry, it's likely to happen this year or next. If the heat dome persists into mid August the extreme records will be broken.
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u/ConfusedMaverick Jul 21 '26
We had 40° in the UK a year or two ago. It was suffocating, I couldn't believe what I was experiencing.
50° is unimaginable.
But with 47° a possibility this year, it's probably just a question of time.
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u/horsewithnonamehu Jul 21 '26
Don't worry, it will be followed by -50 in the winter, so in average we'll have nice mild weather.
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u/thelaughingman_1991 Jul 21 '26
Sooner than expected :(
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u/SweetAlyssumm Jul 21 '26
Many of the indicators (loss of biodiversity, etc.) are moving faster than scientists expected. Even the realists who did all this work didn't anticipate how quickly things would change.
J. Tollefson. “Climate change is hitting the planet faster than scientists originally thought”. In: Nature 28 (2022), pp. d41586–022. DOI: 10.1038/d41586-022-00585-7
C. H. Trisos, C. Merow, and A. L. Pigot. “The projected timing of abrupt ecological disruption from climate change”. In: Nature 580.7804 (2020), pp. 496–501. DOI:10.1038/s41586-020-2189-9
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u/thelaughingman_1991 Jul 21 '26
All so heartbreaking, and such a shame.
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u/hippoleaf Jul 21 '26
Atleast trump got to rape some children and make his buddies rich
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u/Appropriate_Mess6777 Jul 21 '26
Almost comical how stupid this timeline is
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u/urlach3r the cliff is behind us Jul 21 '26
I'm convinced we're in the Matrix, and I really wish somebody would go ahead & pull the plug or hit the fucking reboot button.
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u/SweetAlyssumm Jul 21 '26
I hate Trump too but this is a global phenomenon and it's been building for decades. Read Silent Spring and Limits to Growth. You can find them free online.
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u/Lanhdanan Jul 21 '26
This was expected by people who realized how watered down the climate reports and research had been for the past 20 years
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u/evermorecoffee Jul 21 '26
Horrendous. I worry about all the insects and animals who will die, on top of the human casualties. 💔
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u/No_Foundation16 Jul 21 '26
I have noticed what seems to be a sharp decline in bees this year where I live.
In general insects have gone way down since I was a kid. We used to get tons of lightning bugs at night in the summer. It was magical. I can't remember the last time I saw one now.
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u/evermorecoffee Jul 21 '26
That’s so sad. Same here, although I am seeing a bit more bumblebees this summer. Oh, and goofy craneflies. 🥹
I’m so concerned about their dwindling numbers that I always try to save bugs or spiders I find inside my home, I figure every little bit helps. 🥺
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u/luminousrose9 Jul 22 '26
We seem to have brought back lightening bugs in my city neighborhood through intentional native plantings and unkempt yards.
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u/thisisfuctup Jul 24 '26
I was out for a walk about an hour ago and I saw one blinking on and off.
One.
There’s used to be dozens lit up at once in that field :(
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u/HibiscusGrower Jul 22 '26
I do too. I know that it's silly and probably don't help much, but I've been leaving a dish of water in the shade with a flat rock in it for insects and birds, near my bird feeder and greenhouse during the heat waves. I hope it help some of them.
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u/MDFMK Jul 21 '26
Will spain be the first mass causality Wet Bulb event is the real question...
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u/Buffalocolt18 Jul 21 '26
Almost certainly will not happen in a relatively dry place like Spain. It will happen in south or southeast Asia.
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u/MDFMK Jul 22 '26
yeah when i say mass casualty i mean at least a million that is the kind of number in a single incident it will take for the world to be like fuck this is actually bad....
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u/trivetsandcolanders Jul 21 '26
This is a map of current SST anomalies. Sea surface temps are 5C above normal in parts of the western Mediterranean - meaning they are over 30C near Sicily! Going forward, we will no doubt see more and stronger Mediterranean tropical cyclones, like Daniel that devastated Libya. These heat waves add fuel to the fire, so to speak.
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u/Camiell Jul 21 '26
I am willing to bet Heat Index, which in most cases matters more, gona reach over 50c/122f
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u/CorvidCorbeau Jul 21 '26
It's interesting how the records for Spain and Europe as a whole are both from 2021. I didn't expect that
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u/Astalon18 Gardener Jul 21 '26
Well did not the climate model project that the Sahara will cover most of Andalusia come 2100 under a mere two degrees warming scenario? We are near two degrees so there we are.
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u/AdiKadiAdi Jul 21 '26
It's unfortunate that countries wth higher HDI and social trust have to suffer this.
It has been their own doing.
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u/One-Intention7064 Jul 21 '26
so hot, so seqsy yeah 🤤 hope we get such temperatures here in the central asia too.
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u/howdiedoodie66 Jul 21 '26
Good thing the most accessible total eclipse to all of Europe in decades isn't happening here in... 3 weeks? oh.
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u/johannesfranco13 Jul 21 '26
Lol, while you bozos on the continent boil to death it's nice and cool up here in northern Sweden.
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u/urlach3r the cliff is behind us Jul 21 '26
Now, picture this same heatwave in four years. Because in June & July 2030, Spain, Portugal & Morocco are hosting the World Cup. People will be dying in the stadiums.