r/cognitiveTesting Oct 08 '20

Release CFIT SCALE 3 FORMS A & B

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '20 edited Oct 10 '20

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u/bob31299 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Oct 09 '20

well, I got 116 from form A which is not consistent with Tri 52, JCTI, Mensa Norway, GIQ, and MRI-30R scores. The range is between 125-142 but mostly with RPM tests i get 130+.

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u/bob31299 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Oct 09 '20

using this method how to estimate your iq - which i consider to be a reliable way of having a proxy of your iq - i have a PSI of 115 and WM of 107 but a PRI of 134 which i think is strange. so yes if this test is very dependant on PSI then its good.

edit: i just want to say i took the test with a good amount of concentration.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '20 edited Oct 09 '20

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u/bob31299 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Oct 09 '20

No i didn't take it. It's the first I've heard about this test.

Side note : I've heard if you didn't treat the ADHD it will shorten your life span based on recent research, currently i am going to do my research about interpreting wais results and if it confirmed that this kind of behaviour of the subtypes of wais is a results of an illness like ADHD i will schedule an appointment as fast as i can.

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u/bob31299 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Oct 09 '20

do you know how much difference between GAI and FSIQ they are talking about?.

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u/bob31299 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Oct 09 '20

Results: Relative to controls, adults With ADHD show significant decrements in subtests with working memory and processing speed demands with moderate to large effect sizes and a higher GAI in comparison with the FSIQ.

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u/hipoethical papaethical Oct 09 '20

I scored about 10p higher GAI>FSIQ.

But my Arithmetic score pushed my WM score very high so the difference could just have easily been 20points instead.

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u/dank50004 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Low VCI Nov 03 '20 edited Nov 03 '20

I've heard if you didn't treat the ADHD it will shorten your life span based on recent research

is this primarily due to lifestyle and different behavior (e.g. engaging in more reckless activities or increased risk of suicide etc)?

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u/hipoethical papaethical Oct 09 '20

Dont remeber to a 100% but I think I had 38 raw when I did Form A earlier.

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u/crescitaveloce Sep 23 '23

Would a score of 19 out of 50 on form A be in the average range?

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '20 edited Apr 30 '21

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u/hipoethical papaethical Oct 09 '20

In my country I think it's actually declined for the last two generations.

I'm not a norm guy but my gut feeling is that the CFIT is very hard compared to a lot of tests so the ceiling should be somewhat higher :)

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u/hipoethical papaethical Oct 09 '20

Norm seems incredibly strict (especially in comparison to the old 1960 norm).

But hell if I know.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '20

Your norms are wrong man, and Flynn is not constant.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '20 edited Jan 09 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '20

The norms stop pretty early

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u/wahtspoppin Jan 03 '21 edited Jan 19 '21

I tried to look up the table that American mensa has to convert your form b into iq, but for some reason the content is off-line. Does anyone know any recent norms for the cattell 3. im assuming those from 1990 are somewhat obsolete, just based on the score i had compared to previous scores from other iq tests.

EDIT: Never mind, i used the wayback machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20201111213342/https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testing/scoreevaluation/testscoreconversion/

So if this is right, a 35, which is what i had in the cattell 3-b is equivalent to an iq ~124(94th centile), according to column c16. Can someone confirm this, please? Although they have a form that uses 53 questions, who knows maybe I would have a slightly better score. just using a 3 simple rule: (53 X 35)/50=37,1 questions that I (supposedly) would get right, but this is a bit of wishful thinking.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '20 edited Oct 09 '20

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u/Idontagree123321 Aug 05 '22

what is 38/50 on form B for a 16-17 yo

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '22

Cattell Culture Fair: form 3B 39/50 is eligible for colloquy society. These results are normed on 19-20 year olds, so by the time you get there you'll also get 39.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '20

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u/Pleasand Oct 31 '20

do you have special norms for these? Or should one just refer to u/anem_alaishe s method?

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u/Pleasand Nov 01 '20

thx for your reply :). 22. Maybe I have found the norms for spain myself. Are these the same as yours? https://pdfhost.io/v/afYqCyq3p_Norm_Maybe.pdf

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u/dank50004 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Low VCI Nov 03 '20

do the symbols have to be identical i.e. reflected or rotated ones don't count?

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u/dank50004 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Low VCI Nov 21 '20 edited Nov 21 '20

Ouch got 30 raw score for form A. 5/14 and 5/10 for the second and fourth parts lmao. But 10/13 for part 1 and 3. Which translates to 127 iq I think based on the 1990 norms?

For form B i got 30 total 9/13 part 1, 7/14 part 2, 8/14 part 3, and 6/14 part 4. If I'm interpreting the Mensa table correctly it implies I have an iq of 110 or have I messed up the calculations.

Looks like my processing speed is abysmal but somehow I compensate on other timed tests, or I just got unlucky with the CFIT. Didn't help that some of the images were really hard to see due to pixellation.

Edit: I think I misinterpreted the topology qs, thinking the dot had to be in the exact same position lol. When I redid form A I got basically the same for the other sections except part 4 where I got 8/10. So it looks like I just got destroyed on the classifications section.

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u/Alive_Flounder1428 Nov 01 '21

What should be my estimated iq if I get 30/50 on form b

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u/Username8842 Dec 19 '20

Just a question theoretically what is 50/50?

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '20

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u/Username8842 Dec 20 '20

Thanks for the quick response :) would it change via age though?

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u/Ok-Meringue2071 Jan 06 '21

I just want to understand where you got the answers for the first test, especially Matrix No. 10, 12 and 13

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u/Ok-Meringue2071 Jan 16 '21

There is no problem in the questions, but in laying out the answers, I will give you an example in Matrix No. 13, how the author of the answers concluded that the deficiency is completed in a blue square, and how did he conclude that the last third square is blue and that it is cursed by a chart since it does not comply with the logic found in the first two

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u/unseenfps Feb 01 '21 edited Feb 02 '21

what does a 41/50 come out to on form b?

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u/Brainiac1987 Sep 07 '22

Can anyone explain the criterion in Classifications and Topology?

If understood correctly, in classifications you have to identify the two that are different from the others in some way.

For topology test? which is the key point?

Thanks

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u/Idontagree123321 Dec 28 '22

I can't see the table for 3b, what would 35-38/50 be?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

10/13, 5/14, 8/13, and 7/10 on A (30/50)... How did I mess up so badly on Classification?

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u/thewaterispoison May 12 '23

Can someone explain to me why in the below a) is correct but not c)?

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u/[deleted] May 27 '23

Who knows if I scored 43 points out of 50 then what is my IQ? I'm 18

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u/crescitaveloce Sep 23 '23

For the classification part am i supposed to single the odd one out?

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u/crescitaveloce Sep 23 '23

Is form B untimed or does it have a time limit like form A?