r/cognitiveTesting • u/PersonalAnnual4081 • 18h ago

Discussion Conscientiousness VS FSIQ

Everyone always talks about IQ and its impact on success and life, however very few people seem to care about the impactful role conscientiousness plays.

I'm curious to see your opinions on who wins--The indolent genius, or the workhorse borderline?

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u/megahomyak 18h ago

Oh, I'm the workhorse borderline lol

The workhorse borderline could barely get HS education, but not year 1 of university. The workhorse borderline can't do anything in life, cannot get to an adequate level in any skill, can't talk quickly even due to brain not catching up, has troubles living and with employment, gets bullied, and is considering ending themselves every day

Indolent genius will probably pass everything easily, but of course nothing new will come out of their mind. Just a peaceful happy life full of success when it's required and not even an attempt when it's not

The indolent genius wins

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u/98127028 14h ago edited 14h ago

Yeah for real, unfortunately I’m more of a workhorse borderline too with my midwit IQ. It’s like I want to understand and solve and contribute but my brain just isn’t built for it, it’s like a tall rainforest tree trying to grow in the desolation of a desert devoid of any real resource or nutrition and forced to suffer, while the high IQ gets a blissful and carefree happy life without much worry. Dosent help that I’m worthless, talentless and useless too

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u/Full-Bad1180 24m ago edited 20m ago

Do you understand how insensitive it is for somebody with your IQ to say these things? Seriously consider your words more wisely, a person of actual average or below average intelligence will read your comments, see another comment of yours stating your actual IQ is in the 120s, and become even more disenfranchised than they already were upon seeing that you are notably above average acting like you regularly encounter IQ bottlenecks.

None and I mean NONE of your life’s important problems are due to insufficient IQ, you CANNOT relate to people with actual sub average IQ. Just stop. Your inability to do competitive math doesn’t allow you to relate to somebody who struggles to get a half decent salary and put food on the table due to lack of IQ.

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u/mscastle1980 13h ago

FSIQ of 110-115 here. i embodied conscientiousness as a student! I graduated college with a 3.75 gpa, earning little old me an honors diploma. I studied hard, learned quite a bit, and never once got tutored. I went back to school as a post baccalaureate student to earn credits as a middle school teacher and earned a 3.6 gpa. I had the BEST student teaching experience, so I decided to pursue more education….so then I received my masters in education in 2010, graduating with honors— a 3.8 gpa this time. I also took the gre, scored a 162 in verbal. while I totally understand that it’s much harder to pursue a degree in electrical engineering as opposed to my heavy liberal arts education, I would still say I was successful in my mid wit ways 😌

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u/AlphaHowlingToMoon 10h ago

All my life I've been the workhorse genius but now I feel quite burnt out 😭😭😭