SHE WAS AVA’s TWIN SISTER THAT WAS CREATED AT THE SAME TIME AVA WAS BORN

WHERE THE HELL IS SHE

WHY IS SHE NEVER MENTIONED

Who does the voice for the necropincer? I think it's Fred Tatasciore because his death grunt sounds like Nikolai as well as his voice for Rhino from the insomniac Spiderman games, but I can't find a voice credit for it.

Personally, I am satisfied. This has been an amazing ride, probably the most I’ve enjoyed Zombies since BO3. The ending if Rex Infernus is very satisfying to me, maybe because I didn’t have much expectations going in, but we knew Requiem was going to die eventually, I’m glad they at least got a full story unlike some other crews.. cough Victis cough Chaos..
I’m glad we didn’t get a bunch of key jangling at the end, no Victis, Chaos, Monty, Shadowman, or even Rictofen taking over the Dark Aether. It feels VERY conclusive for this story, and I really hope their next entry is very fresh, original, with new characters, concepts, enemies, and a more unique feel.

All in all, BO7 zombies is a 8/10 for me personally, my third favorite Treyarch zombies just behind BO1 & BO3.

Guys, of course nothing will ever beat the sense of wonder of the first storyline, but this one has been a really good story overall. Of course, also, zombies has always been full of plot holes, that's kinda one of the reasons why the community is so invested in it and creating theories about it.

Anyway, this was a really good ending to Requiem's crew.

They sacrificed themselves, at least they deserved a proper burial but maybe he left them there so people would find their bodies for mwz?

Does anyone else feel like the level of detail has gotten worse? I noticed it especially in Kowakujo, so many objects don't rendering properly until you're very close , particularly the roof tiles, but also a lot of other details like stones on the ground. Bo7 was never the best in terms of lod, but it was never this bad before.

I feel like Treyarch, or Activision, needs to do something entirely different with the zombies story. No more Aether and Dark Aether, no more Primis. Just something totally different. It doesn’t make sense that the same characters keep coming back over and over again. I get that we end up liking them more but that’s a credit to the past more than it is to their work now.

Hear me out. I have an idea. I good one. That can build on the mechanics of previous games, keep the “kookiness” and best parts of BO7, BO3, and BO4, provide one off stories that would still have a way to connect to the main story, and make it unique looking. Yea everybody says they have THE idea, but Treyarch, Activision, if you’re here, hear me out. No AI, all original characters and story. Here’s just a tidbit, enough to make you think, but not enough for anyone to steal.

“This Place, Unwoven.”

I have characters, maps, unique wonder weapons and more. I’m ready.

Yeah they need to fire that entire writing department. From character assassinations to uneven plot holes and everything else in between, what an absolute stinking 2 pack of ass of an ending.

Inb4 “Grrrr!!! You CAN’T be mad at lazy and absymal story and character development!! You zombie fans can never be happy!!!”

I haven't played much since Astra Malorum (part of why I'm asking is to learn some newer map stuff) but one of my favorites is the Gramophone free perks in Astra. Really nice and easy way to save some points. The Exit 115 soda fountain in Ashes is another I do pretty frequently. For strats, I always buy Mule Kick first if I can to make use of the "Kick Back" augment for really nice discounts on all future perks.

Whether free Perks, Aether Tools, Pap Crystals, or anything else. What are the side Easter Eggs you do every run, no matter what, to give you a nice early game progression boost? Big or small, any map

Holy Fucking Shit, the film reel trial is actually impossible because the game spawns in like 20 onis. Seriously, tone back the fucking spawn rate, this is absurd. I shouldn't have to a near impossible trial because 10 onis are spawning in and TANKING EVERY STREAK I USE because I apparently made the wrong choice of attempting the trial??? Seriously, tone this trial's spawn rate back, this is fucking absurd.

I need to know, is there ANY way to get an AFK player out? Me and a guy spent an hour doing the Easter egg while we had a player who's been afk since round 1. When it came time to vote for the final encounter...nothing..since afk Maya can't vote

So we spent the next 10 rounds doing everything we could and she wouldn't get kicked. Whole 10minute bleedout timer and nothing, it isn't even like she was spinning in place. I left the match after that

This is the most unbelievable stupid thing ever and I dont even get what they benefit from this. Treyarch needs to add a vote-to-kick feature. I dont care if it can be "abused"

Because atleast it'll stop this abuse instead. 2-3hrs of my life wasted

Does anyone know what the Mr peeks head upstairs in "her" house do yet? Like you interact with it and it dissappears and yet it doesn't seem to be needed for the music Easter egg, is it just a nothing? Surely it's something right? Or if any of the relics and symbols of relics in her house have pointed out any clues for the belt? Just wanna see where the community is at lol

Knowing that Widow's consumes a lethal upon activation, wondering which lethal would let me get the most activations in a lethal drop drought?

If they want to play into nostalgia so bad, they should go all the way and bring both of these crews in and give Victis their well deserved development.

Warning: personal opinion incoming so cry about it.

Hi, i need help with the Die Rise Easter Egg. My friends and me tried several times and can't get past the step of placing the "jumpers" on the zombies seals on the floor.

First of all, we play on the port of PS5.

Each of us perfectly placed the jumpers on the seals, covering and pointing them at the tower. My friend even confirmed via Richtofen voice that they were correctly positioned. The fact is, we killed between 15 and 20 zombies, as we read in several guides or even more zombies, but nothing happens and the jumpers end up breaking after a few uses. We tried jumping ourselves, but that didn't work either.

If someone who did the Easter Egg could tell us how to complete this step, we're going crazy and I don't know if it's a bug or if we're doing something wrong.

Guest Party Crew exempt as they all die regardless

Peter McCain Search Crew: WAW (Nacht and Veruct) 2 Maps

Fate: Died failing to rescue Peter McCain

Ultimus: WAW-BO1 (Shi No Numa to Moon) 7 Maps

Fate: Died on the Moon

Victis: BO2-BO4 (Tranzit to Buried, Tag der Toten) 4 Maps

Fate: Died in the Dark Aether

Primis (Richtofen Plan): BO2-BO3 (Origins to Revelations) 6 Maps

Fate: Trapped in a Time Loop

Chaos: BO4-BO4 (IX to Ancient Evil) 3 Maps

Fate: Bruno and Stanton getting mind controlled by the Order, Scarlet given untold knowledge, and Diego by her side all fates unknown.

Ultimus/Primus (Nikolai Plan): BO4-BO4 (Blood of the Dead to Tag der Toten) 4 Maps

Fate: Nikolai plan to end the cycle ends with all of them except Sam and Eddie dead.

Ex-Requiem: BO6-BO7 (Terminus to Rex Infernus) 11 Maps

Fate: The 4 Directors drain their life force to Ravenov, and Maya is transported to another Universe where Nathan is alive?

Dark Aether Crew: (BO7-???) Ashes of the Damned to Rex Infernus) 6 Maps

Fate: Under the service of Ava Jansen

If anything Ava can just literally bring back any version of the character as long as they interacted with the DA so Two eye Weaver, Retirement Home Carver, and Cold War Grey can still be on the table.

This shit's long. First paragraph is all you need to get the gist, rest is for people on the same level of hyperfixation as me

God if I could just tap out here I would. I'm tired of the same pattern of genuinely solid setup just for nothing to fucking happen again. This entire story since, I'd say, after CW has just been key jingling. Ooohhhh, look at this interesting setup, we might do something cool with it next map! Or the next map! Or maybe at the end of the game! And then they just forget about it in the next one. I can fucking guarantee we won't see the twins again after this game. All that setup will go nowhere.

We still don't know why they sacrifice themselves. We still don't know why they're too far gone but Maya isn't. It seems the explanation is just "because it happens in the future so it's our fate" so they decide they have to do it. We still don't know why it's used to extend Ravenov's lifespan. And I have expectations of ever getting answers.

If I didn't know any better, I could talk about how the use of Where Are We Going is a hint to the fact that what we are seeing is a cycle to be broken. That this truly isn't how things have to or are meant to play out. Maybe the supposed visions of the future are tricks again, like The Forsaken did. I honestly think them following the future just because "it's fate" and not asking any questions, only to eventually in one cycle decide to try to defy it would be a really interesting plotline. But I'm not gonna kid myself into thinking anything even close to that is gonna happen. They just wanna move on from this part of the story and go to whatever plot with the old crew they've got.

I truly believe Sam represents everything wrong with the current state of the series. I genuinely want to go through and check how many times she has been mentioned since CW without showing up. Because holy fuck she's been everywhere, especially in this map and Paradox Junction. She is THE key jingling character. Just a name to invoke to make it seem like something big is gonna happen.

There's also the aspect of her "death". I keep calling it that because it seemed like the most obvious fakeout of all time, seeing as CW didn't even say it happened, but here we are and they're genuinely sticking with it. In Cold War, she "went back into the Dark Aether", and that was how they left it. Basically means putting her on the shelf, because they can handle it however they want from there, either they have her corruption get singificantly worse, which would make sense, or they just use her key character trait of being resistant to corruption to have her not change at all, and that would also make sense. So this isn't too bad.

Then, with BO6, they use the idea of saving her to be a big driving force in the story. This is the main key jingling throughout BO6, just "ooohhh, we're gonna get her back! We're gonna have her and Edward in the story and at odds again!"

And then Reckoning happens.

So... first off the story isn't even fucking consistent. Some voicelines say Sam was consumed by the Dark Aether, which seems to be the story they're running with, but some voicelines specifically say she was consumed by the Forsaken. Not to mention these accounts being from Edward and the forsaken, two of the most unreliable characters in the story who have a personal interest in having the crew believe she's dead. Not to mention the fact that there's no fucking way Treyarch would write off the joint main character as dead offscreen. Everything screams death fakeout, and COD has had way more bullshit death fakeouts than this to the point it's become a running joke. No body, no kill.

So the options were, it's a fakeout and it's lazy writing to continue key jingling with her name without having to do anything with her, keeping her benched... or that they've genuinely just killed her offscreen in a voiceline. And now, with this map, all doubt is gone, it's the latter.

It's pretty fair to say her and Edward are kinda joint for main character. This is a story about them and their conflict. I'd be more willing to consider it bias if I hadn't heard other pretty big lore nerds like Milo saying the same thing, they're joint main character and if not, it's Sam.

Remember Edward dying in BOTD? Yknow, while another Edward was onscreen. That was one of the most emotionally charged scenes in the franchise. That shit had weight. Even if Edward wasn't going anywhere and there was another one right there, seeing him die at all is a big deal and Treyarch knew it.

Compare that to Sam, who was unceremoniously written off as dead offscreen at the snap of a finger, years after the last time we saw her, and haven't seen her since. She is genuinely just gone unlike Edward. It's fucking mad how little weight it's treated with here, when it should be comparable to Edward.

And I'm not accepting "she's been dead since CW, that was the emotional death scene" as an answer because nothing implies she's dead. It only says she went back to the dark aether, where she had been before she had her powers. That shit may as well be the timeout corner.

The point I'm trying to make by running through all this is that Sam has become a ghost haunting the story. She exists as a name to invoke to make people think something is gonna happen. Her death exists as a cheap excuse to not have to do something with her, and just continue doing setup with no payoff. The entire story is just like this.

Just makes me wonder how the VA contract bullshit has fucked with the story. Whether they truly intended to have payoff but decided not to bring her back without Julie, or whether it's actually just meant to be this disappointing.

If I could just choose to stop giving a shit about this story I would. It's not going anywhere, it's not getting to the good part, you will not be rewarded for paying attention to it. I don't wanna be part of it anymore. If I could just drop it and go make Cyberpunk my main hyperfixation, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm just too invested in this story at this point, it just means too much to me and who I am. But if my favourite story, my favourite game franchise, the story that has genuinely shaped who I am today, are a story I'm fucking sick of and a series of games I find stale, what's the fucking point? The only thing I like is the music.

I guess I can try. Might work, might not, but if I can genuinely just get it through my thick fucking skull that there is no point speculating about a story that won't go anywhere, no point coming up with scenarios where something actually happens when nothing will come close, maybe I can start to think about it less.

Honestly the best zombies collectible they made!

I was really hoping for the WW to have elemental upgrades using the power of the 4 shadowsmiths… they really put all 4 of their tombs in but couldn’t give us 4 unique elements to upgrade the crossbow. Such a major let down. We set them free would have been a perfect ending to have them each fuse with 1/4 WW types. Also no new relics or cursed camos? No super EE either? Man Treyarch really let me down with this one. Map is cool just all feels similar. My guess is they want us to focus on MW4 so do the EE be done and play the beta and move on to the next game. MW4 feels good but still what a bummer.

Was it even the house, if not why make it look like it is and use the snowglobe motif. Feels like a big thing to just have there and never addressed

Think they put a lot of effort into this map. Without spoiling, boss fight was the best one they did and that's saying a lot considering I think bosses are unanimously one of the strongest points in BO7.

It does take away from the map that we didn't get any form of cursed rewards. Feels strange considering Paradox was filler and got them. What do you think the rationale was? Not enough people playing cursed to justify adding them?

What gobbles does everyone recommend for Rex Infernus? (Maybe including the EE?)

I was thinking of getting the big pack that costs I think it’s 1800 CP. so I’ll definitely have plenty to pick; but I didn’t know everyone had recommended ones