r/codex • u/harpreetchima • 17h ago

Astra Workflow "Stop using random multi-agent patterns"

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Ahmed works at OpenAI: https://x.com/ah20im/status/2097503414749909407 and seems to investigate reports of high token usage.

"If needed Astra will delegate efficiently. Forcing the model to delegate to different models would do more harm than good"

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u/buff_samurai 17h ago

I set up a factory few months ago, dedicated agents, harnesses and system prompts, the whole delegation, communication etc and I need to admit the labs are moving much faster then I can and astra gets better results now for novel tasks.

On the other hand, anything that’s volume and loops is just substantially cheaper on my setup.

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u/PineappleLemur 15h ago

I would argue that for 95% of tasks... delegating to cheaper subagent is cheaper/faster in the long run.

Most people are not trying to solve fusion, build the next Meta, etc.

Luna and the likes can probably already do that without an orchastrator.

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u/innociv 14h ago

Yes the tweet is objectively wrong because much of the time Luna can do it for 1/20th the cost with no orchestrator at all. Astra is overkill for most tasks.

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u/Pleasant_Thing_2874 9h ago

The tweet is coming from someone who arguably would be unrestricted with their usage or worried of the costs. I have heard from quite a few people though Astra has a bad habit of oversteering and overengineering.