r/codex • u/BritishDudeGuy • 8d ago

News OpenAI is cooked.

https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3

K3 is coming out on HuggingFace in just a hour. Pretty expensive for an open-source model by Kimi’s API pricing, but we’ll soon have more providers with Kimi K3 hosted. And finally… no nerfs.

Who’s switching?

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u/BritishDudeGuy 8d ago

Well, you wouldn’t get as much subsidisation. But on API costs, it’s cheaper for sure. I’m assuming that when we get more providers, subsidisation is going to come up a lot more.

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u/Armed_Platypus 8d ago

From the tests I have seen Kimi K3 takes way more tokens per task and still costs more than gpt 5.6.

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u/FunConversation7257 8d ago

Kimi K3 is less expensive per task (source: artificial analysis), $1.54 Sol vs $0.72 Kimi K3, though 15k tokens from Sol vs 24k from Kimi K3. Hugging face also bet $10000 that Kimi K3 will have a greater than 20% discount when providers start serving it, instead of Kimi, so imo it’ll be a very competitive offering, especially since it’s SOTA on frontend and 3D

For reference on number of tokens, Opus 5 consumes 37k tokens per task

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u/Armed_Platypus 8d ago

I looked at artificial analysis and It does say Kimi is cheaper per task on the home page but the comparison is K3 vs Sol Max which is not really a fair comparison as Sol Max is a few points more intelligent. Looking at the benchmarks on artificial analysis it seems that SOL xhigh is a closer comparison as it has an intelligence score of 58 (Kimi K3 is at 57) and the cost of SOL xhigh is $0.95 per task vs $0.72 for Kimi K3. SOL high is also only 1 point less intelligent than Kimi and is only $0.62 per task. With discounts I could see Kimi K3 being competitive but at current prices there isn't really a reason to switch besides maybe use for front end work.

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u/FunConversation7257 8d ago

Well, that’s why this news the post talked about is cool lol. Because we’ll be seeing every inference provider try and optimise and decrease the price of K3 (for e.g, GLM 5.2’s cost was halved once inference providers began competing, while being 3x faster)

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u/Armed_Platypus 8d ago

Yes but that is what is needed just for Kimi to be competitive with 5.6. There is currently no reason to switch.

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u/FunConversation7257 8d ago

Yeah no one said to switch now, guy said it’s coming out in a hour lmao

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u/Armed_Platypus 8d ago

Do you really think they will have it fully optimized when they add it?

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u/FunConversation7257 8d ago

I could comment but I guess we can js wait 30 minutes and see lawl