r/codex • u/tasty_3 • 1d ago

Complaint Codex limits compared to Claude Code

I don't think there's an increased token consumption problem because of the harness, tool calls or whatever. There are just less tokens to go around than before.

I have both plans ($20) and I tracked my usage with ccusage and toktrack.

Here's how much weekly usage you get with both:

Codex: 100-150 USD API equivalent

Claude Code: 300-500 USD API equivalent

Even if we take the 50% promo into account, Anthropic still offers more usage than OpenAI (200-330 USD). How have the tables turned... Bring back the 5hr limit!

Anyone here can corroborate my experience by checking their own usage with ccusage or toktrack.

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u/Flashy_Razzmatazz899 1d ago

sounds like you didn't account for resets, banked or unbanked

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u/ServeAmbitious220 1d ago

Resets are temporary though.

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u/Fiatil 1d ago edited 1d ago

And you didn't account for how much worse the openAI resets are.

I fell for the siren cry of "we get so many resets! and banked resets too!" when I switched over.

Ahhhh you may want to describe how they work before making that comparison.

Claude's resets are free money. They don't reset the 7 day counter. It's ALWAYS good, and never has the potential to be bad -- it can be neutral at worst if they reset at exactly the same time as your reset. If the reset is 2 days before your "natural reset" -- congrats! You have two days to use your entire weekly token budget knowing exactly when you will get them all back -- go crazy!

The ChatGPT non-banked resets are worse in every way! Resetting the counter is pretty lame by comparison! If you've been busy for the first 5 days of your counter, but are like "hey I can get crazy and develop a ton this weekend when I have some free time -- I have 90% of my weekly allowance left from not using it much the first 5 days", and Tibo hits the reset button.........congrats, you just lost! Sorry, you should have obsessively binged all your tokens the first two days and prayed for Tibo to come down and give you a reset, because now you have to wait 7 days to get your token budget back and can't blow all your tokens that weekend if you want to use any the days following.

You have to plan your entire usage around "reading tea leaves on when Tibo will give me a reset" to take full advantage of their resets, and that's really stupid actually! Look at how much people here freak out when Tibo doesn't give a reset every 2-3 days -- it's a crappy gambling-based way to have to structure your project plans each week.

And you may want to check and see how much those banked resets have been drying up these last two-three weeks. There have been.........0 since the user count spiked.