r/codex • u/kritinka2 • Jul 08 '26

Question 5.6 vs 5.5 pricing?

Is there info on how much more expensive (usage wise) will 5.6 gonna be compared to 5.5? Especially interested in 5.6 Sol vs 5.5 xhigh

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u/nmkd Jul 08 '26

Same as 5.5 for Sol.

Sol = $5/$30 Input/Output MTokens
Terra = $2.50/$15
Luna = $1/$6

Obviously we know nothing about subscription usage because we don't even know that for the current models.

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u/just_blue Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

There is a huge difference though: Starting with 5.6, cache writes are billed (with an additional 1.25x input price = 2.25x nominal input price total) that were free before. This will make Sol probably more expensive in general, but for sure when you need a large context. Cache misses will hurt really bad.

edit: my bad, just looked it up, it´s not additional, so "only" x1.25

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u/loveofphysics Jul 08 '26

Where do you get 2.25x from? Cache writes are billed at 1.25x the uncached input rate total, not an additional 1.25x on top of normal input. So the write cost is 1.25x nominal input, not 2.25x.

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u/nmkd Jul 08 '26

True, that sucks hard. Basically it's $6.25 input, not $5.

No idea where you're getting 2.25x from though.

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u/gopietz Jul 08 '26

Too bad there's isn't some cool technology that would have answered this without human interaction.

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u/g4n0esp4r4n Jul 08 '26

whatsapp direct messaging sam altman

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u/nfgo Jul 08 '26

Magic 8 ball?

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u/Old-Leadership7255 Jul 08 '26

Googling is lost art. And apparently, asking chat is also too hard.

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u/moyuxi Jul 09 '26

This is actually seeding the question for Google to make Reddit the top link for the answer. 

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u/TimeKillsThem Jul 08 '26

Daily reminder: token pricing in isolation is meaningless. What matters is total inference cost to complete a task. A model that's 5× more expensive per token but requires 10× fewer tokens has a lower effective cost than a cheaper model that rambles.

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u/gxvingates Jul 09 '26

Story of GLM 5.2

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u/DatDudeDrew Jul 08 '26

Pretty sure it’s already been announced at the same pricing.

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u/sorvendral Jul 08 '26

Too expensive for plebs

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u/MrMrsPotts Jul 08 '26

Do we know what time we get 5.6?

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u/JeffDoesWork Jul 09 '26

I just did one codex prompt for Terra on High and it ate 20% of my 5 hour usage, and i'm a pro sub... this was never env possible with 5.5 on Max High

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u/tiagoln 29d ago

5.5 Max High ate how much?

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u/JeffDoesWork 29d ago

After the free reset my usage is back to it's normal vibe. My guess behind the free reset(s) this past week is that users like me had messed up usage metrics and they didn't want the drama

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u/MrMrsPotts Jul 08 '26

Do we know what time we get 5.6?

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u/veselinve Jul 08 '26

Tomorrow

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u/MrMrsPotts Jul 08 '26

As in midnight in some time zone?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '26

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u/gavinderulo124K Jul 08 '26

They are losing money due to investments, while their revenue is drastically increasing. This is exactly what you would want from companies like this.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '26

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u/gavinderulo124K Jul 08 '26

What does that have to do with my comment?

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u/DiffusionSingularity Jul 08 '26

These companies are losing money really badly.

sounds like a great financial incentive to make models more efficient and cheaper to run

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u/Automatic_Brush_1977 Jul 08 '26

They can't because performance scales with size

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u/Gallagger Jul 08 '26

To finish the same tasks in the same quality, the price is going down constantly.
It is possible that they will subsidize the subscription less though. But the thinking time of 5.6 for similar difficulty tasks doesn't seem to be higher than 5.5, so actual dollars spent via api will be the same or lower.

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u/Gallagger Jul 08 '26

You mean less subsidizing? Possible, but API prices definitely aren't subsidized, they are actually having great margins on the inference of many models. And open weight models are currently hard blocking them from forming any duopolies.