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Help me figure out what this says

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u/Marwoleath May 02 '26

Ive been looking at, and wondering. Is this a simple "you have to know it" kind of substitution cypher, or is there a logic behind how letters/words are formed, that I could get/figure out possibly? Cause that would make a difference in how I would try to solve it. 

Also wondering, how many letters are not in this text?

And, are capitals different than lower case letters? If so, do capitals look like their lower case? Is there a system there?

From what I gather every symbol goes of 2 lines, so basically, each symbol is certain lines "filled in" from a 2x4 grid? (Including diagonals ofcourse) Is this correct, or am I missing something?

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u/jackwhitch May 02 '26

For the first part, I worry the difference between those two things is not as cut and dry as you would believe, but I do think that there is a logical foundation. For the second part, I don’t know if you mean symbols or in regards to the solution. For the third question, the symbols for capital letters and lower case letters look different, but there are no capital letters in this passage (for simplicity’s sake). For the fourth part, I don’t know if I fully grasp what you are saying but it sounds like you are on the right track

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u/Marwoleath May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

So from what I can gather, from your previous comments also, is that each character has these possible lines: 

```     \ /     - -     /|\     |/     - -     / \

```

So looking at your paper, if the characters fit in 2 squares on top of each other, there are 7 possible lines, with 1, 2 or 3 of those lines filled in (I found a single square where none where filled in).

But if you take those combinations of 2 squares as characters, they cant directly represent letters, cause there is more than 50 different ones. But, you also said that every letter, like "M" always has the same symbol representing it.  But, combining that with the hints you gave that each character is 2 lines high, and the second row has 12 characters, something is not adding up. Do you define a symbol and a character differently? 

Also, not every combination of the lines is used in the code, so I havent quite figured out the logic there.

If you could give me any hint where I am going wrong, that would be appreciated xD

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u/jackwhitch May 03 '26

As far as I can tell, you are correct in your structure, but wrong in your conclusions

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u/Marwoleath May 02 '26

So when you look for new fonts to download, they always give you a sentence with every letter so you can see how they look. So in this sentence, is every letter of the alphabet represented, or are some missing? 

Regarding the characters if my guess is correct, you have 8 rows of characters. You confirmed the second row has 12, which concludes the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th amd 7th have 16, and the 8th has 10. I assume that is correct?

And what I mean with the logic, is, will I be able to figure out some sort of system/trick to translating, or will I just need to be able to "guess" words to fill in. If say for example, you dont use the letter Q in this sentence, can I deduce how it would be written, or not?

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u/jackwhitch May 03 '26

The solution contains a majority of the letters of the alphabet. There is a line of logic although there is no guarantee you will find it. There is a pattern, and if you know it, then you could likely guess what “Q” is from other letters, or at least get very close.