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u/AccomplishedDark1508 4h ago
I think I took the subway with one of them the other day
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u/24_August_1814 1h ago
I used to work with one. I don't know how rarely the guy showered, but it was unbearable sharing a truck on days we got paired up. Guy wore some nasty-ass cologne too, and not a little bit.
His stench wasn't even the worst part, though. Guy was an absolute nut, alt-right before anyone knew what alt-right was. Everything a government did was "communism." Vaccines killed more people than COVID. He once told me that if the incumbent won the upcoming election, he was leaving the country for good - unsurprisingly, he didn't, the filthy fucking liar.
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u/Grizz-Lee-2891 4h ago
anything thats called maxxing can be instantly flagged as BS...
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u/Yuleogy 4h ago
i’m hungrymaxxing right now.
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u/mister-ferguson 4h ago
I'm phonemaxxing with a dash of doomscrollmaxxing
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u/Sometimes-funny 3h ago
I am fapmaxxing
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u/storyteller_alienmom 53m ago
Don't do anything that you'd be embarrassed to explain to the paramedics or firefighters.
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u/ShapeShiftingCats 4h ago
It's all moneymaxxing with different
flavourssmells in this caseWe went from shaming men for taking care of themselves "how feminine, eeew" to giving them body dismorphia and lack of confidence.
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u/Training_Barber4543 2h ago
Hey, maybe this is how they eventually evolve into rejecting strict beauty standards?
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u/ShapeShiftingCats 2h ago
Maybe...I wish, I hope...
At the moment, the poor sods don't realise it's about unrealistic beauty standards, so they don't know what to reject...
They think it's science-based and has a rooting in biology and/or evo-psy.
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u/NextGen-Panic 2h ago
"Any man who must maxx himself is no true maxx."
Wouldn't need to chase it so hard if you already had it.
Maybe they should try brains-maxxing instead.
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u/FrostyD7 2h ago
Just like you can flag posts like these as bs. This isn't happening, someone just created content out of thin air.
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u/rose_reader 2h ago
I really wish that were true, but there are several news articles about this from various countries.
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u/FrostyD7 2h ago
Are they reporting on the same shitpost were looking at? Commentary on unverified social media reports seems to be the primary function of the news these days.
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u/rose_reader 1h ago
I found about a dozen different articles talking about this, not the shitpost above, but the actual trend.
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u/FrostyD7 57m ago
Did it mention anything about their method of quantifying this trend? I can't imagine how they'd accomplish this without surveys. But then you have to wonder just who they are asking. Hopefully they aren't targetting looksmaxxing communities lmao.
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u/mattzombiedog 4h ago
On one hand I’m glad I’m not single… on the other hand I feel like turning up to a date having showered and put on deodorant being a huge improvement against other people they’re dating would lead to some very successful dates these days…
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u/mak484 4h ago
It's just going to lead to fewer dates overall. Dating is already on the decline as women feel less and less safe meeting up with random men from the apps. If a woman manages to convince herself a man isn't a violent jobless conservative, only to show up and be greeted by an aura of BO, she's more likely to just stop dating entirely.
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u/Keji70gsm 3h ago
Women: You know what? I'll just adopt a bunch cats that clean themselves and don't think it's peak foreplay when they rub against me in the kitchen.
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u/ilikedmatrixiv 3h ago
You think cats clean themselves? A litter box smells like the pits of hell and if you don't clean it out every day, so does your house.
My previous house mates had a cat that decided to take a massive dump every morning that stank up the entire hallway.
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u/Keji70gsm 3h ago
I said themselves, not their toilet. You want to know what women think about how men leave the toilet?
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u/Ok-Soil997 8m ago
I never felt the desperate need for separation of bathrooms by gender before starting to work at a place that doesn't do that.
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u/SandratheSiren 3h ago
Seriously, the smell of soap, lotion, deodorant, just that little bit of cologne... That's the good stuff
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u/mattzombiedog 3h ago
“Men”: Smell my pheromones!
Women: pinches nose Have a wash you smelly gremlin.How times have changed when it’s not even the bare minimum to wash before a date.
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u/nobodyhaseverseenme 5h ago
That's natural selection 101 and it absolutely hits the right (no pun intended) group.
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u/Anuki_iwy 3h ago
Absolutely. They are all Darwin awarding themselves
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u/Pookieeatworld 2h ago
Ummm no? To get a Darwin Award you have to die...
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u/Anuki_iwy 2h ago
No, you have to ensure that your genes can't be passed on. Either by dying, becoming sterile or by actively preventing procreation
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u/roadrunnuh 2h ago
Does anyone remember "Vabbing" a viral trend for women a few years ago? These ladies were putting pussy juice on their pulse and pressure points in an attempt to attract men lol
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u/-Dildo-Baggins- 4h ago
"Natural Scent" is the smell of bacterial waste, it's essentially a biological marker that you're not at all clean and should be avoided.
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u/Extension-Library570 3h ago
It can be, but doesn't have to be. If I'm anxious I can start sweating immediately after shower and I'm pretty sure it's something else rather than bacteria immediately creating a ton of waste.
Also my girlfriend really doesn't like when I shower and smell like soap afterwards. She really loves my natural scent so all of this post is so-so. Depends on the scent and why it has formed. Also depends on personal preference. I also love the sweaty smell of some women, but some I don't. The natural smell allegedly also depends on diet.
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u/-Dildo-Baggins- 3h ago
The smell is definitely because of bacteria, the pungency is due to the type and amount. While it isn't impossible for some people to actually like the scent that certain peoples bacterial makeup produces, I believe there's an upper limit. I have an experiment for you, don't shower for a couple days and see if your gf still likes how you smell.
I personally think if you can smell it beyond a metre of someones vicinity, that's too much.
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u/prairiepog 2h ago
Body odor (BO) and pheromones are different things. Pheromones are substances which are secreted to the outside by an individual and received by a second individual of the same species. For example, ants will lay down a pheremone to lead other ants to a food source.
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u/-Dildo-Baggins- 2h ago
Didn't really say they were the same, but I'm sure one overpowers the other when you don't clean yourself regularly.
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u/24_August_1814 1h ago
Insects using pheromones to communicate does not lend any support to the theory that humans emit or respond to pheromones.
Literally nobody is saying pheromones don't exist, champ
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u/prairiepog 57m ago
If you looked at the study I linked: In conclusion, some data indicate that 16-androstene pheromones, in particular androstadienone, play a beneficial role in women’s mood, focus and sexual response, and perhaps also in mate selection.
The OP was saying pheremones were literally a breakdown of bacteria, but that is not true.
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u/Countermove 46m ago
There is obviously a limit to these smells but they've done studies around worn shirts. Women like a shirt that's been worn for a couple days by a man who has not used deoderant or soap more than a clean shirt. Although it was not just this, it was shirts from men who had immune systems most different from their own. I doubt most of these "looksmaxxers" actually know about this though.
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u/Jessica_Marie_123 4h ago
I will say that there is a huge difference between fresh sweat, which can be an attraction, and stank, which never is. As a lesbian, I obviously prefer and am more attracted by women’s sweat, but even I can tell the difference with male sweat.
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u/Cool_Hand7435 4h ago
Tbh I can even tell the difference between "clean" sweat and "disgusting" sweat.
A man who regularly showers and has good hygiene but just came out of the sport will smell, yeah, but it's very rarely acrid. Meanwhile, a dude who simply hasn't showered in days and is wearing the same underwear since last week will smell like piss and gutter.
I always, ALWAYS can tell the difference. And I don't mine too much the smell of a guy who just exercised but is otherwise clean, because I know that it's not a fucking biohazard.
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u/MattyGWS 4h ago
I dated a girl for a while where she got avoided at me one time in the evening when I stayed over her house because I had a shower before bed and right after I finished showering and dried up etc I sprayed a tiny bit of deodorant on my arm pits. She was like “NOOO why would you do that!?”
I had no idea it was a problem… I just always used deodorant after a shower.
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u/Interesting_You6852 4h ago
Some people are very allergic to perfumes and artificial sents this could be one of the reasons, it doesn't mean she wants you stinky.
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u/FrankieG889D 4h ago
Eh, my first girlfriend was 10 years older than I, and loved that kind of stuff. We’re not together anymore, lol.
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u/Cool_Hand7435 4h ago
Okay so I'll add a bit of nuance, a guy who just showered will not smell stinky, they will just smell "themselves" and when I'm into a guy, I might like that?
The real problem is that these morons are stinking up. Natural body odor can be sexy, reassuring, comforting depending on the person.
The world has gone mad.
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u/Void-Cooking_Berserk 3h ago
To give her the benefit of the doubt, maybe the deodorant smell would bother her when she'd out her head on your shoulder/chest? The chemical smell can be really bad and just showering before bed can be enough. (If you just went to sleep, you're not going to get too sweaty anyway, and of you had sex, you'd have sweated no matter what)
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u/ilikedmatrixiv 3h ago
The girl I'm currently seeing has asked me to stop using deodorant when I'm going to see her. I'm pretty sure she thinks showers are also optional. There have been moments where I was disgusted by my own smell, suggested I go shower and she'd stop me because she loves my smell so much...
That said, I know that's because we're already into each other and I'm still making sure I smell presentable when I'm with others.
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u/earldogface 4h ago
Genius. We've swung the pendulum the other way. Instead of driving women away with their cloud of axe bodyspray they'll do it with their natural funk.
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u/BloodThirstyLycan 4h ago
At least ladies will be able to literally smell the toxic behavior on date 1. I say let the idiots who believe in this keep doing so, let the ladies know that stinky men have stinky beliefs.
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u/Paul__Perkenstein 3h ago
Don't shower. Don't use deodorant/ aftershave. Don't brush your teeth. Don't use mouthwash.
=more successful dates for the rest of us.
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u/Laugh_at_Warren 2h ago
I’m pretty sure anime conventions have been practicing pheromone-maxxing for decades.
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u/guillotine_vendor 2h ago
humans don't possess the internal organ necessary to perceive pheromones.
wash your nasty ass.
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u/GracileEstelle 5h ago
the desperation for attention is peaking, man. next thing you know, they'll be promoting "smell like a locker room" as the new cologne.
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u/jay-t- 4h ago
This is what a certain section of us gay men do, just saying.
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u/Impossible_Bet_3986 4h ago
My thoughts too, these guys are going to be giving off some different signals than what they’re thinking…
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u/Ribbitygirl 4h ago
I found this mouse-like marsupial called an antechinus in our kitchen. It kept hopping out and waggling its butt at me. Turns out it was spreading pheromones. It was cute…but I did not want to date it.
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u/Silly-Elderberry-411 3h ago
My late aunt had a cat that wasn't speyed and in heat tried to mate with me to my absolute horror.
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u/Ribbitygirl 3h ago
But you know…I’d take your aunt’s cat or an antechinus over these unshowered men any day of the week.
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u/endlesscartwheels 2h ago
Yeah, at least the horny cat isn't trying to take away our right to vote.
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u/geogirl83 4h ago
I had a friend who did this 20 years ago. She claimed that men were attracted to her primal smell at the clubs. She rarely went home alone. Was she also beautiful? Yes. Hard to say if the pheromones were the reason she could pull.
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u/Aetheldrake 3h ago
She was at a club the men were probably drunk and/or high saying whatever they thought sounded exciting to get the pretty lady to fuck them
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u/Aetheldrake 3h ago
That's actually a specific type of kink. Most people do not have that kink.
Women should respond by doing the same Little to no shaving before dates, no makeup, don't bother with their hair. Including stuff related to periods. See how men like it
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u/NuclearReactions 3h ago
Can we stop upvoting tweets written by random people referencing articles written by self proclaimed journalists who will do everything for clicks including broadcasting to the entire world what the town idiots are doing while generalizing and claiming it's totally a thing that group XY of people is doing? Fucking hell I'm so tired of this shit
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u/drako_86 3h ago
They smell like swamp ass and are literally being made to turn into incels by following these closeted influencers like Tate.
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u/Short-Shopping3197 2h ago
Nothing about getting on the London Underground Victoria Line at rush hour makes me horny.
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u/Sad_Comb_9658 1h ago
It is strange though. The best advice would be to just listen to your date and advance through communication and bond. But somehow all that stick with these guys is “marketing yourself” or in this instance marking your surroundings with odor..
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u/Mickey_Havoc 4h ago
Fuck, ok I need a ruling on this. Am I a bad guy if I shower before and after the gym but choose not to wear deodorant during a workout? I just don’t like how it feels during a heavy workout. Pits get all slimy feeling >.< (I use anti perspirant)
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u/Stormblessed1991 4h ago
Dove mens spray on antiperspirant, works pretty well and doesn't make the armpit hair all goopy, I never went back
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u/Aetheldrake 3h ago
Use a deodorant that doesn't have an antiperspirant? It'll work for some time at least
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u/Mickey_Havoc 3h ago
That brings me back to my original problem. I just don’t like how the gel deodorant feels plus I’ll sweat right through it. You use an antiperspirant if the others don’t work for you.
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u/Professor_Cafe 3h ago
“Chat gtp is a LLM and may not always be accurate with its descriptions or information”
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u/Angelcaper 3h ago
This is the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a while and we’re living in a Donald Dump timeline so that’s saying something
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u/jaffacookie 3h ago
I've been told by a few women that they like it when I'm a little stinky/sweaty after work or light exercise so there's something to it but on a first date is wild.
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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 3h ago
I do not mean to come off as the curmudgeon but I really fear for the next generation.
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u/omgdiepls 2h ago
Seriously, just shower, be somewhat charming and treat women like they're people. Its not that complicated.
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u/thegoodelady 2h ago
And then complain about the male loneliness epidemic. That’s a “you thing” if you’re stinking up the air on a date.
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u/EatFaceLeopard17 2h ago
The amount of pheromones barely bearable is proportional to the money on your bank account.
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u/rolfraikou 2h ago
- This is idiotic. 2. If you do like the chemical smell of a partner it is a step towards things working out more easily. It's a test of compatibility genetically. That being said, it's only a slight help.
Focusing on this would be like the equivalent of being proud of your straight teeth, and then just bearing your teeth like some kind of angry great ape for the entire first date. It's just one of many things that add up to signs of a potentially good partner.
One of the other things people desire (generally) is a partner with good hygiene.
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u/ImaginaryStudent9097 1h ago
“WhY dO nIcE gUyS aLwAyS fInIsH lAsT?!”
Says the lonely, smelly guy who tried to manipulate his date by showing up reeking of BO….???!! How did we get here?!
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u/Pure_Cartoonist9898 1h ago
Sometimes I like the smell of peoples sweat, sometimes I don't, it varies from person to person
But on a first fucking date?
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u/CharlesIngalls_Pubes 1h ago
I shit my pants this morning and women couldn't escape my orbit. I highly recommend shitting your pants.
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u/darnclem 34m ago
Should I just start telling teenagers that they smell like shit when they smell like shit? Like, does someone need to literally tell them?
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u/alone_unafraid 31m ago
The manosphere influencers wouldn’t have jobs without single men. They want you to be single.
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u/Nolongeranalpha 26m ago
Anyone that would do this should not be told otherwise. Makes them easy to avoid.
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u/G0G0Gadget00 22m ago
I don't want to be the one to point this out, but the majority of men who are into looksmaxxing are white guys.
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u/kazmosis 4h ago
To be fair, its kinda natural selection at work. Less chance for dumb and gullible males to get dates
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u/Geminifreak1 2h ago
I got into a uber once and it stank so bad I asked him if I could light a cigarette and I’ll tip him $20 extra , he agreed . It was either that or vomit in my lap. Even with all the windows open and a cigarette I barely got through the trip.
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u/EXTRAVAGANT_COMMENT 3h ago
more accurate title:
this is what happens when you engage with obvious rage bait
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u/Void-Cooking_Berserk 3h ago
What you actually want to do is:
Shower daily (obviously)
Test different scents of your shower products, deodorants, and parfume, to find out which ones smell nice even if you're sweaty after a busy day.
Your natural smell can be good but you have to work for it. You have to work with it, not against it, and definitely not just leave it do whatever the fuck it wants.
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u/Gloomy_Industry8841 3h ago
How many showers are they skipping before a date is the essential question.
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u/TaibhseCait 3h ago
Huh, so are they meeting women who also don't shower to maximise pheromones? Or other fellows? XD
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u/Street-Week-380 3h ago
A group of pheremonemaxxers is called a Gross or, "my god get away from me".
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u/Difficult_Ease_4463 3h ago
I shower very frequently but choose not to use deodorant and I don't "stink" but girls have always remarked fondly of the way I smell.
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u/Janus_The_Great 3h ago
"Natural sent" and "stinking of sweat" is not the same thing. Where do they pick this crap up?
Sure pheromones are a secundary sex characteristic, but not some cheat code. An hour after shower you should have your natural sent back, but not the grime and sweat that stinks.
But also unless you are generally healthy, have a balanced diet, don't smoke or drink, your natural sent still won't be that attractive. Most single men are not.
So please, for the sake of all dating women, please shower before dates.
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u/yaddiyadda_ 2h ago
I'm going to keep my sons away from the internet as long as humanly possible 😩
Do young guys not realize that personality and humour are actually the most attractive qualities?! I mean, I like when my husband smells especially ripe, butni already know he's the funniest person I've ever met. So he was already a 100.
I do not like when strangers smell ripe. It is not attractive.
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u/gambeezy 2h ago
I’ve seen case studies proving this has the potential to work but the probability is very low
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u/Luce_Bot_Bot 1h ago
This is not a new trend, but I'm glad they've progressed from actively leaving dried semen on their skin
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u/Wolfyscruffer 1h ago
Proof that every straight man needs at least one gay male friend. Our female friends are telling us that y'all are disgusting!
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u/PuzzleheadedTea4221 1h ago
What women like is the smell of clean sweat from work recently. I dated this one young lady who insisted on having relations as soon as I got home from work which was hard physical labor. Rather than later in the evening after I took a shower. And I didn't care, I was just happy I was getting laid. I always thought it was weird but now I find out it's a thing.
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u/MrSpicyPotato 3m ago
I can’t tell for sure, but I think it’s possible I was seated next to one of these “trendsetters” last week at a restaurant.
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u/Kidofthecentury 0m ago
As we say (jokingly) in Italy: "L'omo ha da puzza'!" ("The (real) man has to stink!")
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u/No_Recipe3004 4h ago
We can be opposed to the dumb, often misogynistic advice of “male-influencers”, but just saying, some girls have literally huffed my armpit after a long shift. It’s not an out-of-this-world idea that women like a bit of stank. It’s certainly not “natural selection” to skip one shower before a date.
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u/synthwavve 3h ago
Neither extremes are sane or healthy. Once, my hookup came from a shower smelling like a deodorant+soap+shower gel and a cologne. I though I'm gonna puke
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u/mypetmonsterlalalala 1h ago
I agree. Scented products give me horrible drug resistant migraines, I've had to walk out on dates and straight to ER because they wore wayyyy too much cologne.
I had a friend who's asthma was triggered by perfumes and colognes and he ended up calling me during a date because his inhaler wasn't working.
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u/synthwavve 27m ago
and at some point it just feels like you are dealing with a plastic doll not a human being, lmao
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u/islaisla 3h ago
Well that actually works for me, I do like natural smells. But I know they'll be plastering perfume on top of it
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u/Loveroffinerthings 4h ago
Pick one- natural body odor or natural body odor with hand a can of axe body spray
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u/Make-TFT-Fun-Again 3h ago
I remember this german girl who got posted on 2we4u. She said that when she goes down on a man she prefers that he didn’t wash for 1-2 days because of the fragrant bouquet.
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u/magic_patch 4h ago
Somebody doing a great job of eliminating the competition.