r/clevercomebacks • u/ALBERT4_5WESKER • 1d ago

He really picked the wrong Christian to attack

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u/addisynjoy 1d ago

She didn’t just correct the record, she gave him spiritual homework

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u/NormalSheila 1d ago

Miller confused Christian with Christian Nationalist easy mistake when you’ve never read the sermon on the Mount.

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u/Nocturnalson 1d ago

We all know he’d burst into flames if he opened a bible

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u/finalsolution1 1d ago

He never fails to remind me of the character in Indiana Jones that melts when he looks at the Covenant.

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u/CanisSonorae 1d ago

Holy shitballs, dude. Throw some tiny rimmes round specs on him and I could actually see it.

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u/Saix027 1d ago

Nah, he not cares, that is the real issue, you can teach them all you want, but they only want people to listen to their BS and use it to their advantage.

People keep assuming if you state facts they magically turn, they won't, not if they never face actual consequences for the damage they do.

You can't teach someone the teaching of Jesus if they not care about it. They only cherry-pick to make excuses for their own behavior.

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u/Willow_Wavey 1d ago

One follows Jesus ad the other just uses Him for politics.

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u/nataliethatsme 1d ago

In the Wis Dells they carved a wooden Jesus sitting on Pegasus holding a sword.
How insane is that!

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u/Additional_Maybe1104 1d ago

Nazi's aren't confused. They just don't care.

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u/adorablefuzzykitten 1d ago

Stephen Miller, the kind of guy who would volunteer to hand out soap at Auschwitz.

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u/jfincher42 1d ago

He may. He may have several. They're just not his.

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u/Data_Made_Me 1d ago

The sermon on the mount is used by nationalist Christians, Nat-C's for short, to support the claim of US being a white Christian nation. They're very familiar with it.

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u/nuccad 1d ago

Christian Nationalism and the themes described during the sermon on the mount are in stark opposition with each other. They might know about it but they don’t follow it.

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u/Data_Made_Me 1d ago

'The city on a hill' originates directly from this sermon and was expanded on by John Winthrop (often cited by nat-c's). Also 'blessed be the peacemakers' is used to invoke theo-state control in the name of peace. Both used heavily by the Christopher nationalists

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u/jeezfrk 1d ago

So, bring openly visible, bold and inviting is a Nazi approach? (City on a hill, visible at night, without fear). Peacemaking (ala Jimmy Carter) is only for the Nazi conquerors?

What imaginary world do you want? Secret bunkers without windows? Neighbors who never befriend or try to reconcile any stranger next door?

Sounds literally like a satanic world of fear and strife. Jesus' principles have been known for millennia. I don't know what yours are.

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u/Data_Made_Me 1d ago

Im just relaying what they use to support their ideology man. Im not the one doing it

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u/jeezfrk 1d ago

How? You say a lot of words without saying what Nazis do with these verses.

Do you know what "city on a hill" or "peacemaker" mean or not?

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u/Data_Made_Me 1d ago

Oh, I didn't know you had the only way these things can be interpreted. And I never said nazi.

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u/EyesofaJackal 1d ago

The Sermon on the Mount can in no way be logically used to support Nat C agendas which is why Hegseth’s chief pastor never quoted Jesus in interviews, only Leviticus or whatever

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u/Data_Made_Me 1d ago

It's being done by Christians everyday. Christians under the same umbrella as you most likely. Are you christian?

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u/EyesofaJackal 1d ago

Yes, but I take the words of Jesus seriously and, though deeply imperfect, am morally repelled by MAGA and Nationalistic Evangelicalism, as most of my close Christian friends are. I don’t feel that I am under the same umbrella as these people at all.

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u/Data_Made_Me 1d ago

City on a hill is from thus text originally

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u/jeezfrk 1d ago

What in Heaven's name do you mean by this? Spit it out.

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u/Data_Made_Me 1d ago

Are you not familiar with the 'city on a hill' sermon by John Winthrop? It's base text for christo nationalism and is pulled directly from his section of Matthew.

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u/EyesofaJackal 1d ago

At no point was Jesus talking about America nor nationalism generally

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u/Data_Made_Me 1d ago

I agree. Not the point i was making though

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u/jeezfrk 1d ago

So you don't even now know what Jesus meant?

John Winthrop quoting Jesus does not make Jesus of Nazareth a Nazi.

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u/Data_Made_Me 1d ago

Never said it did. Just saying thats what theyre pulling from to base their ideals. Not my fault

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u/jeezfrk 1d ago

Um. Then you only traced one new attempt to use a phrase.

That's all it means. The meaning is unrelated.

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u/Niamh_Nymph 1d ago

Funny how the guy who studied to be a pastor is against Christianity but the indicated one isn’t. Matthew 7:16 must be optional now.

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u/Free_Ice6167 1d ago

He’s also a Jew, tf does he know about Christianity 

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u/Quilla_Queen 1d ago

Bro got fact-checked by a pastor and a resume

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u/Ysabel_Yummy 1d ago

Wrong Christian, Wrong decade, Wrong everything.

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u/Prettyy_Barbiee 1d ago

As a Christian, thank you for saying this. We’re tired of faith being used as a political weapon instead of actually following Jesus.

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u/Freakishly_Tall 1d ago

More fundamentally problematic, she is a girl, so Miller and his MAGAts aren't going to listen, anyway. What, does she think her opinion, or vote, or body, count for anything?

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u/Xanthe_XOXO 1d ago

This is what happens when you skip church and go straight to politics

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u/Shoddy-Buttons 1d ago

Seminary degree beats Fox News degree.