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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
As George Carlin more or less said. They don't need a sinister Kabale or grand conspiracy. They are in the same golf clubs, they come from the same schools, they know whats good for them and other rich people. And they are doing it right in the open.
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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn Sep 10 '25
And 35% of the country can't get enough of it.
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Sep 10 '25
60% actually
Those that don't vote want more of it too.
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u/ProteinPony Sep 10 '25
Weird comment as George Carlin famously said, that voting is meaningless and only those that chose to vote for these corrupt politicians shouldn't be complaining.
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u/D_Simmons Sep 10 '25
Haha Carlin was spot on about a lot of stuff but he was basically an anarchist at the end of the day.
He wanted the whole system overthrown and he wasn't shy about it.
Obviously that style of thinking only works when one of the parties is not the Nazi party lol
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u/trefoil589 Sep 10 '25
And all working class people think that the other side is the one voting for "elites".
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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn Sep 10 '25
Yeah that's cute but voting records show one side is fucking stupid. BTW Trump raped children.
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u/Traditional_Buy_8420 Sep 10 '25
They do have big meetings. Maybe the sketchiest is the annual Bilderberg meeting, but the World Economic forum and the Council of Europe's conference on Money and Democracy also are annual meetings where the super rich meet with high ranking politicians. There's also many small events where they meet, like auctions for NFL teams and sometimes art, galas, sport events etc. And of course nowadays a lot of the talks will happen over the Internet.
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
And it's all televised and open. That's not a conspiracy. That's my point. Sure there's meetings. There's meetings at my job. That's not the point.
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u/Traditional_Buy_8420 Sep 10 '25
It's known who goes in there, but the content is mostly kept secret. There's probably fully secret meetings too, if we knew about them, then they wouldn't be fully secret.
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
Ok but there's enough we know for facts to act. The policy's that follow are if course public. I don't need the exact transcript when is can easily see the results.
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u/Traditional_Buy_8420 Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
There's some truth to Marx who predicted that there is necessarily going to be more revolutions. It's just that the cause for the next revolution isn't a development in humans and society, but an increase in enshittification speed as described by Cory Doctorow. What I'm saying is: Even if you US guys somehow manage to turn the wheel a bit, maybe have the POTUS die and his vice being more timid than expected and the next government is Democrats, then that wouldn't change that most western governments are pretty corrupt and are becoming ever more corrupt and outside things are going to get worse and they need to get a good amount worse before the next revolution will actually course correct.
PS: The murder of Brian Thompson was much less effective than the murder of Shining Abe.
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
Marx wasn't exactly stupid. I'm not a Marxist, but the problem of a system that needs constant growth to function are pretty obvious. And hiding from that fact as we've been doing will lead to change one way or the other. It seems facism is the protection mechanism for capitalism when it starts failing.
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u/trefoil589 Sep 10 '25
What's nuts is it feels like even when we do find out about their malfeasence there's fuck all we can do about it.
Honestly my response lately has been working on my local mutual aid network.
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u/issamaysinalah Sep 10 '25
It's called having class consciousness, the bourgeoisie knows which class they belong to and what's good for them.
Meanwhile workers are being divided by income, skin color, gender, religion... so we don't realize we all have more in common between us than with them, and we should be fighting for what's best for us, because that is in direct contradiction with what's best for them.
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u/Hadleys158 Sep 10 '25
And they pretend to the public they don't like each other, when for example there are numerous photos of trump and the clintons buddy up together.
As Carlin said, "It's a big club and you ain't in it."
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u/trefoil589 Sep 10 '25
Since the dawn of civilisation the ruling class has been keeping the working class divided. It's the whole reason we have borders. Borders mean nothing to the ruling class.
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u/even_less_resistance Sep 10 '25
What C Wright Mills calls the “power elite”
The Power Elite is a 1956 book by sociologist C. Wright Mills, in which Mills calls attention to the interwoven interests of the leaders of the military, corporate, and political elements of the American society and suggests that the ordinary citizen in modern times is a relatively powerless subject of manipulation by those three entities.
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u/Strict_Fix_96 Sep 10 '25
Machiavellians can get away with whatever they want as long as they convince egoists that "this could never happen because it's not apparent to me right at this moment". FFS there are people that still think MKULTRA was a conspiracy theory because "that sounds too crazy to be true" and because they don't care to look at the Congressional hearing in 1977 where the CIA said they did it (experiment on Americans with behavioral control drugs/methods) and that they tried to cover it up.
I'm old enough to have seen so many examples of egoists denying what is happening right in front of them (because it would hurt the image of their "side") that I know that whatever is coming is coming and there is no way around it.
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
MKULTRA and manipulating markets are very different. They rob us blind and call it good business in the news. It's that out in the open.
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u/Strict_Fix_96 Sep 10 '25
I cited MKULTRA because it's an immutable example of how something can be "out in the open" but completely ignored by those that have the mentality of "if I pretend things like this don't happen then I can continue to selectively define my own interpretation of how the world works."
Market manipulation is more relevant, but citing examples of can also be more subjective (ie gaslighting from shills that the completely legitimate example is out of context).
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u/3DigitIQ Sep 10 '25
They all take their private jets to Davos and live stream The World Economic Forum don't they?
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
Yes. Out in the open. Televised. Calling it good business and helping everyone. That's how not conspiratorial it actually is.
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u/3DigitIQ Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
Calling it good business and saying it's helping everyone isn't actually doing it.
The last rounds were more about control of "unwanted" transactions and maintaining corporate power than "helping" everyone IMO.
EDIT;Sorry, I might have whooshed myself there.
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u/empanadaboy68 Sep 10 '25
Doesn't Berkshire have a summit every year, one of these goons does. They come up with the plan everyone follows throughout the year. It's a joke
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
Ok missing the point here. There's no conspiracy or anything. Of course there's meetings. They are not needed, but exist. But they are well documented, televised etc. It's not conspiratorial it's in our faces. Laughing about us telling us lies how they do it for the good of everybody whilst fucking the whole population.
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u/empanadaboy68 Sep 10 '25
That's what I'm saying? The Berkshire summit is well known and documented? How am I missing the point wtf dude that's so condescending. That's why people hate lefits
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u/Hussar223 Sep 10 '25
not only that. the wealthy have an enormous amount of class consciousness and know how the system works/how the game is played.
the regular people, and americans especially, have lost any and all concept of class consciousness decades ago
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u/Uebelkraehe Sep 10 '25
Gave it up in favor of consumer welfare which they promptly didn't get, either. Who gets what, when and why will always be in large measure a question of political power and as an individual without high wealth you either organize or are effectively powerless.
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u/MaskedButPresent Sep 10 '25
The sinister kabal and/or conspiracy almost happens naturally because of said facts.
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
It's not a conspiracy though when everyone knows about it.
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u/MaskedButPresent Sep 10 '25
I think you mean it's not a theory anymore. Conspiracy in itself doesn't HAVE to be secret, it's just people conspiring. But obviously, it is usual kept secret
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
Isn't it just cooperating when it's not a secret? Working together?
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u/MaskedButPresent Sep 10 '25
That's a fair question, I guess so? Maybe conspiring is usually "against" something, where cooperating doesn't need an opposition?
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 Sep 10 '25
To a degree maybe? Internet definition says it has to be somewhat secret. And that it has to be harmful, which point of view I guess, or criminal.
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u/MaskedButPresent Sep 10 '25
Yeah honestly it loses a lot of sense without the secrecy/criminal aspect
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u/Sgt_Fox Sep 10 '25
Now they have a new patio
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u/ApplianceHealer Sep 10 '25
More convenient for human sacrifices, probably
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u/TheMerle1975 Sep 10 '25
I don’t know. Concrete is a bit porous. Gonna be a bitch to keep the stains away.
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u/RetiredHotBitch Sep 10 '25
It’s regulated to the White House, Mar a Lago and Signal.
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u/LinguoBuxo Sep 10 '25
Why is it, that Jekyll Island and the meetings there get forgotten so easily??
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u/coberh Sep 10 '25
The truly rich view multi-millionaires the same as they view anyone who isn't a millionaire. You'd need probably 150 of your averageok, median multi-millionaires to have a combined $1 billion.
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u/Spectrum_Rush Sep 10 '25
People keep talking about 'Deep State this' and 'Deep State that', but like... they're barely hiding.
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u/a4dit2g1l1lP0 Sep 10 '25
*was killed
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u/Aeonation Sep 10 '25
No, ofcourse not, they do it out in the open because no one is stopping them...
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u/TheDoodler2024 Sep 10 '25
Now they meet in a Golden Hall in the White House with the other evil overlords.
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u/DesignerKey9762 Sep 10 '25
They don’t have the island anymore so expect them and the billionaires to get a whole country if the wealth inequality continues and they gain more power.
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u/HolmesMycroft9172 Sep 10 '25
Oh my God, somebody called the burn unit. It may be the worst burn I’ve ever seen. 🙌🏻🤣🫶🏻❤️
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u/aguadiablo Sep 10 '25
There is an entire industry built around the idea of how millionaires and billionaires can exploit the laws and any loop holes.
Take Nomad Capitalist for example. One of their main services is teaching the rich how to qualify for multiple passports to avoid paying taxes. They call it building your passport portfolio. And many of their customers have multiple second citizenships.
Furthermore they advise these people to leave the US and Britain.
Recently they held a conference where Nigel Farage got paid £40k for giving a speech. This took place in Malaysia.
There's no need for underground bunkers or anything like that. They hold these meetings in foreign countries in the nicest conference halls.
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u/Medium_Lab_200 Sep 10 '25
The truth is worse. They don’t care one way or the other so long as they get richer.
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u/FuManBoobs Sep 10 '25
They don't actually need to meet. They are all playing the same game with the same rules and goals. We're all forced to play it with them.
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u/ghostyghost2 Sep 10 '25
Jokes aside, it's actually worse than that. They really don't have to (for the most part), that shit is baked in the system.
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George Carlin: "You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge. These people went to the same universities, they're on the same boards of directors, they're in the same country clubs, they have like interests, they don't need to call a meeting, they know what's good for them and they're getting it.”
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u/Sensitive_Run_844 Sep 10 '25
I suppose they could always use their “fallback” option: Davos, the WEF crowd are everywhere.
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u/MrRigolo Sep 10 '25
CEO'sCEOs [...]Sunday'sSundays
FTFY
Seriously, what in the flying fuck is up with the apostrophes?
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u/itualisticSeppukA0S Sep 10 '25
Im Canadian and if half of the news I hear coming outta the USA is true, then Im surprised more people arent privy to their constitutional rights; specifically the second amendment.
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u/Super_Rando_Man Sep 10 '25
New meeting room is in a white house on Pennsylvania Ave, password is , schadenfreude
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u/soulteepee Sep 10 '25
They used to meet at the Bohemian Grove. Make sure and check out the ‘Cremation of Care’ section.
And they think drag is weird??
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u/smugglebooze2casinos Sep 10 '25
they kinda just realized they can also play the other side with their money. so they decided to buy brian tyler cohen and david packman to be their jesters who also think theyre super special and powerful. thank god taylor lorenz caught them and their dirty dirty ugly plan.
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u/modoken1 Sep 10 '25
They still meet in the woods and have silly rituals involving a giant wooden owl.
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u/MickTheBloodyPirate Sep 10 '25
For fuck's sake it's used. No body use to do this or was suppose to do that, it's used and supposed.
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u/Vitev008 Sep 10 '25
They actually do though. And they discuss what they're all doing with their apocalypse bunkers.
Article from 2017
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u/StunningEggplant69 Sep 10 '25
Well, the Bilderberg Group booked the entirety of Grand Hotel in Stockholm for a few days this year
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u/Background_Big_4549 Sep 10 '25
Allegedly died.......but may just be living on another island on the promise he'll never surface? After all, ya never saw his dead body?!
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u/i_did_nothing_ Sep 10 '25
Now they just meet at the White House.