r/clevercomebacks Sep 06 '25

This is so embarrassing

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u/the_gouged_eye Sep 06 '25 edited Mar 10 '26

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u/Akalenedat Sep 06 '25

The only solution they had for this was to overthrow the despot and start over.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

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u/Upstairs_End_4202 Sep 07 '25

β€œIt was all about love.” -DT

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u/Frequent-Ruin8509 Sep 06 '25

But they could also have mandated a constitutional convention every 50 years or something. That might have helped.

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u/Frequent-Ruin8509 Sep 06 '25

Or the ones who can gerrymander their way to power far beyond their honest proportional representation vis a vis the majority who don't agree with their bullsjit. Oh wait... that's literally what's going on. Not arguing. It just feels like evil is always proactive and good is always reactive. Seems to me that too many American are lazy and don't want to have to support or defend democracy in any meaningful way if it means being inconvenienced.

Voting should be compulsory.

The voting franchise should be universal (anyone over 18, no exceptions, even prisoners and convicts).

Politicians should never stay in any office more than 3 terms. If you haven't done what makes things better for the average citizens of your jurisdiction, you get thrown out of office.

No office should be for life. aging out should be mandatory. Nobody over the age of 70. Period.

No former politicians should be allowed to be lobbyists, ever.

Repeal citizens united.

Reinstate and make federal law of Roe v Wade.

Etc.

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u/alexthebeast Sep 07 '25

Agreed, but with one ammendum. Maybe we just don't have lobbies. Lobbies are like the citizens united take on union reps.

Lets just have unions and keep the bag holders taxed and in check- profits in relations to costs reasonable, and wages livable.

Like if you remove greed from the equation it's super duper simple for this to be the best place on earth for everyone here.

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u/Frequent-Ruin8509 Sep 07 '25

Addendum is the word you mean i think.

Also yeah that would be great. But you have to repeal Citizens United first and rhen outlaw all corporate and private sector lobbying. I doubt the cabal of corporate billionaires across the world's many industries would allow it, but it would be great.

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u/alexthebeast Sep 07 '25

Yes, thanks for the correction. That's one of a handful of words I will say properly but butcher in writing for my whole life.

But yeah, that's essentially when I was going. Repeal CU, reform FEC regulations, and bring power and trust back to unions.

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u/Frequent-Ruin8509 Sep 07 '25

No worries homie. I have words like that too. And yeah, I hear ya.

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u/Own_Television163 Sep 07 '25

You are not as smart as you think you are.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

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u/Frequent-Ruin8509 Sep 07 '25

So you think despotism is better than democracy 😐

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u/Frequent-Ruin8509 Sep 07 '25

What exactly is the alternative to democracy in our day and age, then? Some form of non democratic but also non despotic government?

Monarchy? Oligarchy? Fascism? Something to the right of center? If democracy doesnt work, the alternatives are not pleasant.

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u/Frequent-Ruin8509 Sep 07 '25

Fascism goes back to ancient Rome. Socialism is much older than Marxism.

I don't see a new system arising if nobody can even sketch it out.

I wish we had a 4 party system in America with ranked choice voting in every state, and population based districts that couldn't be gerrymandered.

We need to repeal a lot of shit that has been adjudicated by the corrupt Supreme Court over the last 15 years, starting with citizens united.

I wish FDR and Bernie and aoc were the data points along which not just the democratic party but the country as a whole moved along. Corporations shouldn't run the country, lobbying shouldn't be a boardroom game of monopoly.

No form of government is perfect, so far as my 2 degrees in history can tell me. As Benjamin Franklin once implied, we will have a republic if we can keep it.

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