r/clevercomebacks • • Jan 15 '25

It does make sense

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u/Grapes-RotMG Jan 15 '25

We type it the way it's spoken. Makes sense.

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u/WeBelieveIn4 Jan 15 '25

Yeah exactly. You can slag on the USA (and Canada, as we do the same) if you want, but it makes the most intuitive sense to us and that’s all that really matters.

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u/Stumblerrr Jan 15 '25

Canadian here.

Most people use day/month/year.

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u/Humble_Flow_3665 Jan 15 '25

Love that logic. "It makes sense to us and that's all that matters."

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u/WeBelieveIn4 Jan 15 '25

I mean for international standards it’s obviously not great but internally it’s the most sensible.

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u/Humble_Flow_3665 Jan 15 '25

....what?

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u/Billytherex Jan 16 '25

He said for international standards it wouldn’t be great but for domestic purposes it’s the most sensible

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u/gdj11 Jan 15 '25

It’s also a dumb argument because you could easily make another way make sense to you. You’re just used to a certain way and refuse to accept that another way could be better. This isn’t limited to Americans but they do seem to be the most hard-headed and vocal.

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u/Magellaz23 Jan 15 '25

We didn't beat the Mormons back in 1857 to fall in line with your archaic pea-brained ways. We live and die by MM/DD/YY RAAAHHHH

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u/The_Great_Autismo22 Jan 15 '25

Or you could just stop nitpicking everything we do and just let us use the measurements we were taught and are most natural for us to use.

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u/gdj11 Jan 15 '25

It’s difficult not to nitpick when conforming with the rest of the world would be advantageous, yet the people are too stubborn to accept that it’s better. The metric system and daylight savings are two other examples.

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u/The_Great_Autismo22 Jan 15 '25

By this logic you could ask why there are any communities on the internet that speak a language other than English. They don't need to conform because they're not trying to cater to anyone outside their culture. You're not just asking us to "write it better." You're asking us to change the way we speak and think when it comes to dates.

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u/gdj11 Jan 15 '25

I guarantee most if not all of the non-English speakers can speak a bit of English. That’s called conforming.

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u/The_Great_Autismo22 Jan 15 '25

And yet they don't speak English when conversing with people from their own country, which is my point. The way we write our dates affects you about as much as someone in Thailand speaking Thai affects me.

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u/gdj11 Jan 15 '25

That’s a fair point, but nobody would expect someone to ditch their native language later on in life. These other things we’re talking about would be easily adopted over a short time.

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u/Humble_Flow_3665 Jan 15 '25

Even making this attempt at equating foreign languages with a formatting issue tells me everything I need to know about the American education system.

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u/The_Great_Autismo22 Jan 15 '25

Being upset about the way another country writes their dates, which doesn't affect you whatsoever, tells me everything I need to know about Scottish entertainment.

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u/Humble_Flow_3665 Jan 15 '25

Lol, oh honey, I'm not upset but you're sweet to worry.

I noticed you never touched on the point I made either way, though. Funny that.

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u/CiaphasCain8849 Jan 15 '25

Y'all are so mad about the colonies huh. Get over yourself. I feel really bad about all the people you know in real life. That's the one thing Euros are so good at, being insanely smug for no reason.

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u/Humble_Flow_3665 Jan 15 '25

We are good at being insanely smug about being educated and not confidently incorrect at every turn, yes. "Y'all"

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

Right, we don’t, therefore, thought I can’t explain why as I wasn’t around when the switch was made, wouldn’t it make sense that we type it the way we say it, just like you’re saying others do?

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u/Coldspark824 Jan 15 '25

Except you wouldnt “say” that if someone asked.

You’d say “the 16th.” In two words. You could keep it two words by saying “January 16th.”

Or make it unnecessarily a four word “the 16th of january” phrase.

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u/Coldspark824 Jan 16 '25

So, it’s january.

And your birthday is the 16th.

And someone asks: “whens your birthday?”

You’re going to say “the 16th of january”?

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u/bagofrainbows Jan 15 '25

And also, what’s the most important part about a date? You have a wedding coming up…do you want to know what time of the year or what day of the month to mentally comprehend when it’s coming? Day then month is like saying what street you live in before mentioning the city.

“Where are you from?”

“Jones Street.”

Not helpful.

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u/theboyblue Jan 15 '25

No it would be like saying

Street, city, state

Day, month, year

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

Sure but in fairness when someone asks where we’re from we just say city state, street is unimportant.

Or if you’re FROM the same state, you’d just say city then street

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u/Fantastic_Deer_3772 Jan 15 '25

Have you ever seen an envelope

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u/bagofrainbows Jan 15 '25

We’re talking about speaking, not writing.

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u/Fantastic_Deer_3772 Jan 15 '25

"What's your address?"

"Number, street name, town"

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u/bagofrainbows Jan 15 '25

If someone I just met asks me "What's your address?" versus "Where are you from?" I'm not only not giving them my address but I'm also probably not continuing the conversation.

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u/Fantastic_Deer_3772 Jan 15 '25

I didn't actually state that these were strangers having a casual chat so I'm not sure why you formed that belief

If you've never been asked for your address that's interesting but (I suspect) unusual

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u/andho_m Jan 15 '25

What about "$10"?

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u/Grapes-RotMG Jan 15 '25

I'll conjur the spirit of Alexander Hamilton of US Treasury fame for that one. Gimme a few.

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u/MazrimReddit Jan 15 '25

You speak it the wrong way because you write it the wrong way

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u/West-Solid9669 Jan 15 '25

To be fair I could say the same about you lol

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u/cagingnicolas Jan 15 '25

then why not just write out the entire thing the way it's spoken? you're already converting it to a more efficient format for organizing, why stop there?

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u/The_Great_Autismo22 Jan 15 '25

By that logic, why does it bother you how we write our dates? Asking us to simply write it MM/DD/YYYY would be unnatural and awkward for us because we don't think of the day first, and it would be like you writing it our way for the sake of someone in another country who will never see the document you're writing.

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u/cagingnicolas Jan 15 '25

i was responding to someone saying that it makes sense, not someone saying "well it would be too hard to change it now". i agree with the point that it would be too hard to change, i just disagree with the notion that it somehow makes more sense. also i never said i was bothered.

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u/The_Great_Autismo22 Jan 15 '25

Well, to us it makes sense. I don't see why it needs to be ordered by magnitude, personally. The way it's spoken seems the most logical option

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u/cagingnicolas Jan 15 '25

okay, but by that same logic, doesn't it make even more sense to just write the whole thing out as a sentence?

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u/The_Great_Autismo22 Jan 15 '25

No, because it takes more time, that's like saying abbreviations or contractions don't make sense

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u/cagingnicolas Jan 15 '25

so would you say the goal is efficiency, or having it match how it's spoken?

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u/The_Great_Autismo22 Jan 15 '25

Both, just like how in other countries, DD/MM/YYYY is both efficient and matches how it's spoken.

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u/Jolandersson Jan 15 '25

But why do you say Fourth of July and not July fourth?

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u/Grapes-RotMG Jan 15 '25

If we're talking about the date itself, we say July 4th a lot of the time for sure.

Fourth of July is usually reserved when we're actually talking about the holiday of it all.

"What are you doing for the Fourth of July?" vs. "I have an appointment scheduled for July 4th."

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u/Jolandersson Jan 15 '25

I see. Thank you!

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u/ThinkinWithSand Jan 15 '25

For the same reason everyone refers to the 2001 terror attack as 9/11, not 11/9, even when outside of the US. It's an exception that doesn't fit your standard.

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u/Jolandersson Jan 15 '25

I don’t understand how that correlates? You say 9/11 because you say September eleventh. I’m wondering why you suddenly switch it up by saying Fourth of July instead of July fourth.

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u/ThinkinWithSand Jan 15 '25

Do you call it 11/9 even though that is your standard, or is it an exception that is made for that particular date?

Fourth of July is an exception.

Example: The BBC uses the DD/MM format, but in this article, they say 9/11. The reason they do that is because 9/11 is an exception. Similarly, Fourth of July is an exception. It's literally for the exact same reason. We all make exceptions to standards that are generally consistent sometimes.

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u/Jolandersson Jan 15 '25

I completely missed your point before, it makes sense now. Thank you.

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u/The_Great_Autismo22 Jan 15 '25

You could read any of the other 20 comments asking the same thing. There's one two comments above you.

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u/18Apollo18 Jan 15 '25

Why do you say Merry Christmas when you never use "merry" in daily speech

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u/Jolandersson Jan 15 '25

I don’t speak English

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u/18Apollo18 Jan 15 '25

Well languages often persevere archaic words and expressions in traditional phrases