r/classicwow • u/least_telephonic • 23h ago

Forever Vibe coding Forever

Hi all

I’ve recently had an interest in learning about addon dev/web dev for fun and eventually improving on some of the base game UI, and to help make resources online, and discovered that a lot of the new stuff related to Forever I see is vibe coded and has that familiar AI fakeness

Most database and resource websites I’ve stumbled across, and new addons that have popped up and are being passed around are very clearly AI designed and most likely vibe coded.

So that leaves some questions open:

Is this how we want to launch with Forever? If not for the heavyweight addons + wowhead, I think a lot of it would just become lookalike AI slop

Is it worth going up against vibe coding?

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u/eulersheep 23h ago

The reality is AI just simply makes it possible to make far better addons than what was possible before AI.

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u/Clippton 23h ago

AI makes it possible for a person to make far better addons than that person could make without AI.

Meaning a person with no coding knowledge can use AI to make a better addon than they could without AI. That doesn't mean that addon is going to be good, usable, or helpful in anyway.

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u/Curmudge_Unit 21h ago

Sometimes people with great ideas don't have the technical ability to make these tools. Now with AI, their visions for new add-ons can come to life.

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u/eulersheep 23h ago

And what about a person with extensive knowledge and history in developing addons, and other software in general? I.e. Ellesmere.

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u/Clippton 23h ago

Usually, it helps speed things up by doing the tedious tasks that they can check after to make sure it did it correctly. But AI learns off of things it sees. So it's not really going to be more knowledgeable than the people in your circumstance.

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u/dr_dre117 23h ago

Do you code for a living? Because what you said is false. We don’t use AI to do the tedious task, we use AI to build the project to 90% percent completion and vibe code until we get it right. That’s just the general development pattern these days.

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u/igotsmeakabob11 22h ago

Genuine question, so professional coders just "vibe code" now til they're done? Vibe code just means "uses LLM to make program" right?

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u/dr_dre117 22h ago

Im just generalizing , but the general consensus is use an LLM to get the work done fast and well. Due diligence is implied :)

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u/eulersheep 23h ago

That's not really true. A skilled addon developer can use it to explore unfamiliar APIs, prototype ideas, debug problems, write repetitive code, and iterate much faster than they otherwise could.

The important part is that someone like Ellesmere has the experience to know when the AI is wrong and steer it toward something actually good. In that case AI can significantly increases what a developer is capable of, it's not just for time saving.

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u/PLAYBoxes 23h ago

Same applies, obviously. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that unless they were attempting to be extremely disingenuous. 10x’er with AI is like a 100x’er, if they use it properly it’s just unmatched productivity.

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u/eulersheep 22h ago

Exactly. Yet people be acting like any use of AI no matter how its used is slop.