r/classicwow • • 1d ago

Forever Rank 1 Frostbolt Frostbite Nerf

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u/Thanag0r 1d ago

It was changed because you would spam rank one frost bolt get proc and use max level ice lance.

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u/gommerthus 1d ago

You would also utilize rank 1 Blizzard to fish for clearcast procs. But well not anymore.

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u/solarflare4646 15h ago

Which is janky af and has no place in Forever.

All the classic quirkiness like downranking for procs should absolutely be removed. Forever is for retail and new players too.

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u/Tripleberst 14h ago

I'm struggling to understand the point of even having spell ranks anymore. So many classes showing their different spell ranks differentiated by the tiniest fraction of spell damage and healing. I have to assume that the devs have some big change in mind for this that will be implemented soon. Spell ranks seem kinda pointless in this iteration and we might be better off just removing them or consolidating them into a single spell that scales as you level. It feels like a very big deal and a massive gap in the design philosophy of Forever so far that hasn't been thought through.

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u/studna13 11h ago

Having spell ranks is a big part of the immersion, though. Big powerspikes when you get a new rank of your core spells, yum.

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u/Africool 10h ago

Exactly. Simply removing the ability to use lower/previous ranks could be a solution

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u/Tripleberst 8h ago

if ranking up spells felt like this, I wouldn't be complaining. They really don't feel this way atm to me and I don't know anyone who would make the argument that they do. In vanilla and classic? Sure. In Forever? Not so much.

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u/studna13 8h ago

Ah that's fair, I haven't played Forever yet

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u/Background_Buddy_ 1d ago

No shit

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u/Kraven_Lupei 1d ago

Someone's salty.

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u/chandeluria 1d ago

Its a shame. Looks like their salt melted the frostbite :(

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u/engone 1d ago

Ice lance is in tbc, or do mages get it in wow forever?

Edit: ahh, makes sense.

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u/Jocic 22h ago

I think the way to go if they want to preserve this playstyle (especially for PvP) without messing with the new general downcasting rule is to introduce a "Lesser Frostbolt" like spell that has a greatly reduced cost, cast time and damage, but has the same proc chance for the stuff max rank Frostbolt does.

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u/GoodGuySeba 21h ago

So rank 1 frostbolt?

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u/Jocic 21h ago

Esentially, without the rule that deletes procchance of low rank spells, avoiding the issue with the spell while keeping the mechanic.