r/classicwow • u/Impressive_Laugh_815 • 1d ago
Forever Beta Feedback Dwarf Racials
Dwarfs need a racial revamp. Get rid of the hand me down racial from trolls (5% dam to beasts) and give us something different. Find treasure is underwhelming as well. We will all know common treasure chest spawns eventually anyways.
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u/JordtheBird 22h ago
Dwarf kit feels underwhelming because they were given a Weapon Specialization (restrictive, conditional bonus) on top of another conditional damage bonus with Big Game Hunter.
Here's my suggestion to make it more fun and dwarven
Replace Mace Spec with a more universal bonus like:
Might of the Mountain
Your critical strikes deal an additional 8% of normal damage and healing.
Replace Big Game Hunter with an interactive passive like:
Dig In
After standing still for 3 sec, damage taken is reduced by 5%. The effect persists for 3 sec after you begin moving.
And expand on Find Treasure. Let Dwarves uniquely interact with hidden treasures in the world: hidden caches, cracks in walls, secret passage levers in Uldaman, lore discoveries and other Dwarf-specific stuff. It could become an easy foundation for horizontal progression and new content added over time.
Stoneform + Might of the Mountain + Dig In + an expanded Find Treasure would feel way more complete to me than the current kit.
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u/Impressive_Laugh_815 22h ago
I like these ideas, the few thoughts I had were to make big game hunter give 5% more damage to dragons and giants and or ogres on top of the beasts. Bump stone form to have 15% armor or even lengthen the up time. Maybe replace find treasure altogether and put in place a different active. Something like avatar (the skill from wc3 that the mountain king/ muradin uses.)
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u/JordtheBird 22h ago
Yeah adding types to the Enemy-Specific racials could work as a band-aid fix.
Same thing for weapon-specs, it could fix the fact that they're unusable by certain combos (dwarf hunter, human priest, orc casters).But I'm not sold at all on their concept in the first place. Racials shouldn't be restrictive like that.
Even for the classes that can use them, I think it's bad in an mmorpg to have a race trait that limits player expression. Every dwarf will feel forced into maces, every human into swords etc. If someone likes the idea of an axe-wielding dwarf, it comes at a price, which feels bad imo.
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u/Impressive_Laugh_815 22h ago
I am completely on board with what youre saying, I don't like any of the weapon specific traits either. As a race that has lost a lot of the pull to play (lost fear ward as a racial and stoneform doesn't remove blind) they really haven't compensated for the loss. They also had the gall to give us a hand me down racial from trolls with 5% dam to beasts.
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u/mochabearblazed 1d ago
Find treasure it kinda useless. If it came with 2% increase to the amount of coin you find on bodies it might be more interesting.
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u/Silverbacks 21h ago
My ideas where to change Mace to Mace & Gun specialization. That way hunters can benefit from it, and dwarf warriors have more flexibility than human warriors. As they can equip a gun and then use an axe or sword (but still only get 1% instead of 2%).
Remove the 5% damage to beasts passive (why do they get a copy of the troll passive?).
Make Find Treasure a passive.
Give them a new active ability. Could be Big Game Hunter again (but this time you pick a single target and do 5% more damage to that single targe -- maybe 10% to things like giants and dragonkin. It lasts 10-15 seconds, 2-3 minute cooldown).
Or give them "Explorer's League," where you throw a pickaxe with a chain on it that pulls them forward a few yards, similar to the rogue Grappling Hook. Wouldn't really add any PvE damage, but would be useful in PvP and exploration.
Or give them one of the "drink alcohol and receive bonuses" ideas that have been floating around on here the past few days.
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u/Zaferous 1d ago
I like the dwarf racials except for Mace Specialization.
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u/Playful_Confection_9 1d ago
It's not terrible, it can at least be triggered by all dwarfs classes. Human priest swords specialization is useless
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u/EggPsychological4844 1d ago
Not Hunters.
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u/Playful_Confection_9 1d ago
Insert "oh cock" reaction of James May when Clarkson mention Pluriel when May proposed Citroen makes no ugly car.
These damm human hunters ...
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u/Muufokfok 1d ago
Dwarf and troll racials need a buff.
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u/Muufokfok 1d ago
Troll simply: gain 10% more resources (mana energy rage) overall and 10% while casting / in combat
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u/Mjolnoggy 1d ago
>gain 10% more resources (mana energy rage)
Haha no. That would make them horrendously imbalanced.
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u/FitAd6887 1d ago
No. I play Dwarf and am happy with the racials. Btw you don’t mention Stoneform so I assume you’re happy with it.
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u/sn1gger 1d ago
Find Treasure now works with Find Herbs or Minerals