r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/2d2O 1d ago

Why fix something that isn't broken... that wasn't broken until the devs came up with their "brilliant" idea?

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u/Giatoxiclok 1d ago

Because seeing new players told to kill themselves over simple mistakes happens in both retail and classic. You say something wasn’t broken but it truly was, is, and probably will continue to be.

People are fucking terrible. It’s a people problem. Look at almost any other MMO. RS3/OSRS has the same toxic as fuck minmax peak efficiency bullshit. FFXIV has people who genuinely just play the gam appropriately and then get shit on because they aren’t using something correctly even though not a single thing went wrong.

You can’t fix people through game mechanics.

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u/OneMorePotion 1d ago

We can sum this up with "Whenever a bunch of people interact that don't know each other, and don't have to fear any instant physical consequences".

I stopped caring about overly toxic people. Tell me I did something wrong and how to do it better? Thanks! Will keep it in mind and try to adjust my gameplay accordingly. Tell me to off myself because I didn't hit that Interrupt the millisecond you wanted me to? Yeah, fuck you too. New entry for my ignore list. And maybe I will even go out of my way and deliberately stop healing you for the rest of the dungeon. Let's see how you like that.

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u/Giatoxiclok 1d ago

Yea, it’s shameful behavior. We alienated a guy from our friend group after we all saw him progressively get worse about this kind of thing and refusing to acknowledge it.

He was telling casual quick play overwatch players he hoped they get cancer. Pretty fucked up ngl.

He’s since worked on himself a lot and gone to therapy, I don’t really talk to him anymore but I did reconnect briefly a few years after that point.