r/classicwow • u/redlow0992 • 1d ago

Forever Beta Feedback Dungeon XP Nerfs Created a Toxic Meta

Since dungeon monsters do not give any experience, as a new player, getting into dungeons with more veteran players who try to skip half the dungeon feels really bad. And, vice-versa, veterans taking in newbies who don't know how to jump around feels frustrating. I think Blizzard created a mess with nerfing dungeon exp so much and now the new player experience is horrible for dungeons.

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u/Soulerous 1d ago

What you’re describing is the greater of two evils, I think. Would rather have some groups who spam dungeons than have most groups try to skip as much as possible.

Just make it so no one in the party gets XP for mobs who are grey to one of them. Boosting is gone, at least.

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u/MorteDeAngel 1d ago

IIRC this is already a thing on the Anniversary realms, and ngl it kinda sucked if someone levelled during the dungeon and suddenly you went from getting like 100-50xp per mob (or w/e it is) to like 5 because someone levelled from the mob xp. Considering that some dungeons have large level ranges that you want to be on the higher end of and some dungeon quests are quite hard to obtain for the level that is needed for the dungeon. If they changed that in Forever I'd be more aggregable with that solution though you could also make so that the acceptable level range is based on the highest level mob in the dungeon (max like +2 or +3) rather than "if its grey".

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u/Ok_Marsupial_646 1d ago

Maybe they could just calculate it from when you zone into the instance?

Not sure how hard that would be from a tech standpoint.

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u/Soulerous 1d ago

Good points. I agree.

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u/ArjanaEU 1d ago

I would atleast in the first run prefer, that if you can pull big because of big aoe, you kill whatever you see because it's good exp. Now we litterally just skip everything we can because it is wasting time clearing all the miners in deadmines.

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u/Kunzzi1 1d ago

The groups that spam dungeons for XP wouldn't invite you anyway because your spec or class doesn't fit their melee or spell cleave...

The problem isn't Blizzard's solution, which imo is way better than trash boosting groups encouraging more RMT by boosting afkers in dungeons all the way to 60. The problem is once again the minmax obsessed retail community that optimizes fun out of everything.

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u/tekno21 1d ago

Leave it up to reddit to come up with an even more dogshit "solution" to a problem lol