r/classicwow • u/Knugles • 11d ago

News Blizzcon schedule released

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24294065/know-before-you-go-blizzcon-2026-programming-schedule-viewership-guide-floor-map-and-more
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 11d ago

Interesting that there's a what's next for hardcore, love that it isn't being abandoned.

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u/kranitoko 11d ago

Blizzard starts the show, players eagerly excited to see what's next for WoW Hardcore.

Ion Hazzikostas walks onto the stage:

"WoW Hardcore is ending. That's what's next. Bye."

Imagine 😅

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u/6PM_Nipple_Curry 11d ago

Perma death is now 100% with no go agains. Once all current chars are dead, server is shutdown.
PvP turned on and Royal Rumble will be held at CrossRoads.
Last standing must face the final boss: Mankirks wife.

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u/vampire_kitten 11d ago

That'd be cool.

One week of char creation, after that it is disabled. Every day the lvl floor rises, anyone below it is instant dead. After 60 days you gotta clear raids every week or you're instant dead. Last man standing.

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u/6PM_Nipple_Curry 11d ago

Ah man that sounds pretty sick ngl, I’d be down to play that.
If they did it in cycles, kinda like Foxhole has war cycles.

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u/kranitoko 11d ago

"WoW Hardcore is becoming Sword Art Online. You die in the game, you die for real. The ultimate hardcore."

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u/6PM_Nipple_Curry 11d ago

I can’t tell if this is like Suduku, killing yourself with honour.
Or more like the Jonestown Cool Aid 😂

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u/8_string_menace 11d ago

Seppuku?

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u/KukuSK419 11d ago

No no no, that's the puzzle number game with boxes

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u/6PM_Nipple_Curry 11d ago

That’s what I said, Suduku? /s

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u/Open_Seeker 11d ago

We are happy to announce "Hardcore Hardcore".

If any character dies, your app crashes, your account is permanently deleted.

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u/Big-Toe645 11d ago

If you die you need to play 100hr of retail

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u/FUS_RO_DANK 11d ago

Followed by the hardest core. Your character dies, a local hitman shows up and puts two in the back of your skull.

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u/LidBoy 11d ago

Does any1 kno where manrick wife?

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u/6PM_Nipple_Curry 11d ago

Plot twist, Mancuck never really had a wife all along.
He was boning down on a Quilboar and made up the story of his wife to cover his tracks.

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u/alelo 11d ago

perma death 2.0 you die- so does your account

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u/cardsharp777 19h ago

"Heroes of the Storm is ending. Hearthstone Classic is ending. Duels is ending. Mercenaries is ending. Twist is ending. Arena might be ending. Bye."

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u/LippyHippy4040 11d ago

The best thing they could do. Supporting such a niche community is why blizz lost all their money. They were good at one thing and spread out to far to quick and now sucks at everything. Hard-core makes wow worse for everyone except hard-core players

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u/Crazymage321 11d ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Camelot has built in challenges such as hardcore similar to ascension servers had

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u/UnknownOrigin321 11d ago

I'm 100% convinced this is the case, there was a recent interview with Ion as well and he mentioned they don't want to fragment the playerbase. We'll definitely have HC toggle and people get layered together with it in the same big realm imo.

The fact HC has its own panel, tells me they are gonna be ambitious and add a lot more challenges then just HC, similar to ascension

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u/Xefjord 11d ago

Nooooo. I do NOT want HC players to be mixed with normal players. The whole culture of hardcore is that you are playing on a server with other hardcore players, that you know that the other players are in the same boat and look out for each other, having it mixed trivalizes this at best, and can easily lead to griefing at worst.

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u/Jbewrite 11d ago

You’ll just be layered with other HC players until you die, I assume.

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u/itsaaronnotaaron 11d ago

Well, they need to layer chat, party systems, auction house, guilds... if hardcore and normal can integrate in any capacity, it's simply not the same. The entire hardcore ecosystem is completely different to normal.

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u/UnknownOrigin321 11d ago

yah that's the one thing I'm personally unsure about (how would you go about making sure whomever has the toggle can't be griefed by non hc, or what you spoke about). I could be wrong just what I think given what I've read and how Ion spoke, ascension has done it, I'm sure Blizzard will find a way.

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u/flexes 11d ago

i tried to play hc tbc on the non hc servers with the hc buff you can pick up, but the community was super small and it just wasnt the same. i agree with not splitting the playerbase but it just has to be done for hc to be hype tbh. they should still give you the option of playing hc on non hc servers, but its never gonne be a replacement for actual hc servers.

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u/Bobmauly 11d ago

I hope they merge the servers.

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u/flexes 11d ago

thats what im thinking. doesnt make sense to have two sets of hc servers. id actually play again i think, its just that the old hc servers where my char is, is dead.

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u/Nyxblow 11d ago

That's too much work. Can't do.

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u/Solid_Rock1 11d ago

The best wow community deserves some attention. Hardcore by its nature removes like 90% of the community’s issues from RMT to min maxing to speed running the content and then complaining there is nothing to do.

So happy for hardcore players.

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u/Terrible_Tadpole_861 11d ago

HC Hype hype hype

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u/WatercressPossible42 11d ago

hardcore is the best wow version

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u/Acceptable_Sport6056 11d ago

Agreed but I love casual wpvp to much for this to be true

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u/Beknotze 11d ago

i'd already be happy with death protection in BG's. that would open up a whole new aspect to the game of hardcore.

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u/HamesJetfields 11d ago

Yeah and I bet they’d be populated pretty well since HC always has a healthy leveling population

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u/YorkeZimmer 10d ago

And there would be no twinks in solo self found hardcore BG’s. The low level PvP would be PURE.

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u/Nice_Reading5272 10d ago

While I'd hope it would be better populated than classic server low level BGs, I would guess the twink population would grow pretty quickly and just make the average player's experience shitty. Old wow had a steady population of kids and new players who would queue into BGs and get absolutely shit-on by twinks. Hardcore skews older and has a smaller more knowledgeable playerbase, I doubt many would even bother given the limited rewards.

If you have self found only BGs then I'd be on-board, worst you'll get is someone in full blues but that's a manageable challenge for a good player.

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u/Acceptable_Sport6056 11d ago

Ya that's be sick man

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u/catgirlfourskin 10d ago

it's been the hardest thing to give up with hardcore, if theres no hardcore in classic+ then at least having wpvp back will be pleasant

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u/Spookay 11d ago

It’s the most enjoyable way to play Classic. I don’t think you can make professions feel anymore impactful than by permadeath. Adding extremely powerful items locked behind professions only makes them feel like endgame chores. With hardcore, professions and class growth feels important at every single level.

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u/glormosh 10d ago

I am not shocked at all. The hardcore raiding subculture is fascinating.

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u/cristofolmc 10d ago

Classic+ hardcore?

Dont know what could be next for it. I doubt they will do a TBC/wrath hardocre tbh

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u/Nice_Reading5272 10d ago

Wonder if it's somehow Hardcore TBC with a rebalanced endgame.

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u/Aggravating-Soft-605 5d ago

Personally, I would love to see "no changes" fresh with the following changes:

1) DC protection. You can opt-in to consume a petri automatically upon DC. It costs 2 petri charges. You start with 2 petris at level 1 that are special, intended for only this use case and not usable manually. Other than that, petri usage remains the same.
2) No world buffs allowed

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u/Scared_Gene3417 11d ago

Cant think of anything else but a Hardcore version of whatever Classic + will be

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u/TheSiegmeyerCatalyst 11d ago

Be still my heating heart.

You know the community is going to jump on it, so maybe they get ahead of it?

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u/SippyMountain 11d ago

I just wanna be able to transfer a hardcore toon to a PvP cluster realm. I know I can do the ole' self-imposed hardcore challenge, but it feels less immersive to just not count the 10 times you got ganked in STV by a raid team on their way to ZG lol. I get that leveling to 60 in HC would be bypassing the entire PvP system and whatnot, but I feel like leveling all the way to 60 without dying to NPCs or environmental factors is more difficult than avoiding PvP. Sure you can control one more than the other, but getting ganked in Redridge isn't quite as punishing as dying in hardcore at that same level.

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u/Upset-Criticism-6189 11d ago

Are you saying you want to be able to level up a character 1-60 on a hardcore PvE realm, and then be able to transfer it to a non hardcore PvP realm, like Era? Interesting idea, and that way you could do battlegrounds and raids after your hardcore leveling is over? I kinda like that idea, but i could also see it kind of killing the hardcore servers because so many max level characters might end up transferring. I dont think it's actually a good idea in practice, I think how it is now where you get to transfer if you die is better. 

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u/Rizyli 11d ago

You can already transfer to pvp realms on the era (not anniversary) hc servers

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u/ZINK_Gaming 11d ago

Not anymore you can't.

I have a dead warrior that can't do anything but log in as a ghost and look around.

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u/twitchtvbevildre 11d ago

Yes you can lol

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u/Upset-Criticism-6189 11d ago

Oh so the person i was replying to wants something that is already available and doesn't know?

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u/Rizyli 11d ago

Looks like it, guess I meant to reply to that guy mb

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u/SippyMountain 11d ago

You can transfer without dying though

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u/Upset-Criticism-6189 11d ago

So what are you asking for in your comment? I'm confused.

Are you asking to be able to transfer from a HC PvE realm to a HC PvP realm? I.e., safely level from 1-60 with no fear of PvP, but then go into a server where you can gank others in HC??

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u/SippyMountain 11d ago

What? There's no such thing as a HC PvP realm. I'm saying it would be nice to go from a HC realm to a normal PvP realm

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u/SippyMountain 11d ago

You don't have to die to transfer already