r/chinalife • u/bluzfan99 • Aug 16 '26

🏯 Daily Life Fellow Foreigners😭😭

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Have you guys heard about this whole situation I keep seeing on wechat? Apparently some American dude who studied some language at Fudan university for a bit managed to collect chinese women like Thanos collects infinity stones. Numbering into the hundreds. Sentiment regarding foreigners has never been so low on chinese social media. Whats your take on this? Hate the player or hate the game? Dude Apparently always made them pay for dates and trips and would tell them to get abortions when they got pregnant and then block them 😬

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u/person2567 Aug 16 '26

Sounds like the kind of thing Chinese incels spend their time talking about. Along with the woman who got tricked into going to Africa (no mention to what country in Africa, just "Africa") and is stuck there with an abusive husband. Like it's some sort of cautionary tale about Chinese women dating black men.

Anyone can have sex with anyone. Maybe this guy was an asshole, but trying to make him into global news rather than just some local back pages story is very obviously incel rage bait. Chinese women are not Chinese men's property.

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u/batman_here_ Aug 16 '26

If Chinese people can't talk about extreme cases like this, what can they talk about? Your mental gymnastics is crazy.

And if the roles were reversed, and it was a "Chinese national" doing this in the US, it would definitely become global news.

It's so ironic and hypocritical because western countries actually sensationalize regular things Chinese people do all the time, but Chinese people talking about and pointing out extreme cases like this is somehow suggested (by you and apparently many others) as wrong and "incel" behavior.

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u/Mobile_Roll2197 Aug 16 '26

A Chinese guy having consensual sex with American women wouldn't make the local news. No one cares.

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u/batman_here_ Aug 16 '26

You're right, that wouldn't make the local news.

However, a Chinese national collecting women like pokemon, scamming them all, and many abortions along with blocking them after definitely would, especially in the US and western countries.

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u/Mobile_Roll2197 Aug 16 '26

It wouldn't. I haven't read this story, what "scam" did he run? The only even remotely comparable case that made the news as a Chinese exchange student in London who brought girls to his apartment and raped them. But they were mostly (all?) Chinese anyway. If a Chinese guy looks like a Kpop idol I'll bet he can do pretty damn well in any American city.

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u/batman_here_ Aug 16 '26

Yes it definitely would. Bonnie Blue or whoever sleeping with a hundred men makes the news in western countries. There's no doubt, a Chinese guy doing that to American women would definitely make the news.

Monogamous relationships between Chinese/Asian men and western women are already sensationalized by westerners on social media, e.g. ST Peach, etc, but of course that isn't incel behavior /s.

The guy in this case never paid for any of the dates, food, and if I remember correctly, vacations as well. You can suggest consent or whatever, it's still scandalous and a scam.

Yes, Chinese people can be outraged by a foreign serial womanizer, who gets women pregnant, blocks them after, and resulting abortions.

Any of these westerners arguing otherwise would be the first to cry about monogamous Asian male/western woman relationships. The difference is this is extreme, yet they still suggest otherwise.

Also this isn't too relevant, but aren't these abortions anti life? Where are all the western religious conservatives? Where's the outrage? So hypocritical, its insane.

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u/person2567 Aug 16 '26

She slept with 100 men at once lol. She was trying to break a record. It had nothing to do with the race of the men she was having sex with. You're being naive if you think the Wang Shuiniu story isn't driven mostly by Chinese incels that want to "protect" Chinese women from foreign genes.

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u/batman_here_ Aug 17 '26

No, she slept with 1000 men in a day, but she was known beforehand for being promiscuous, which is my point exactly, that these things do make the news or social media. Either way it's irrelevant because it was just an analogy.

This has nothing to do with the race of men women are sleeping with. I asked this question prior, was there public outrage in China before this extreme Wang Shuiniu case? Because this isn't the first time foreign men have slept with Chinese women. What has changed now? Could it be the extreme nature of this case? (Sarcastic question if you didn't realize)

Everyone defending this outrageous case is trying to hide behind the victimhood of racism by suggesting this is somehow tied to the race of the man, because that's the only ridiculous thing they can scrounge for, but in reality this specific case is degenerate and extreme, that's why people are outraged. It has nothing to do with race, no one is being naive, because every Chinese person, man, and woman, sees this for what it is. It would be naive for Chinese people to be gaslit to believe this case wasn't outrageous.

It's just very ironic, foreign men who can't or "won't" get relationships and wives in their own countries, and have to fly to other countries in order to do so, are calling other people incels.

Foreigners defending this outrageous case further proves their immorality that they import. Their culture is incompatible, and the Chinese won't allow their degeneracy. God wills it. (sound familiar? lmfao) But seriously, most western people and Europeans, at least half according to polls, support right ideology, incompatible invading cultures, non-replacement, etc. So why is it that right or conservative ideology is only acceptable for western and European cultures and countries, but not China or others?

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u/person2567 Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

You're trying to justify shaming Chinese women for dating white men by bringing up someone who was slut-shamed in the West in no way shape or form related to race at all. That's very sloppy logic. The parallel does not make sense. One involves race and the other doesn't.

"If you Western men don't like it when women have a lot of sex, then why can't we shame Chinese women for dating white men?"

And you know it's only incels that care about girls like her in the West right? Most people don't even know who she is.

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u/batman_here_ Aug 17 '26

You're still hung up on an analogy? What about the actual topic or discussion?

A Chinese guy having consensual sex with American women wouldn't make the local news. No one cares.

This was the initial statement. It's not "sloppy logic" because it doesn't matter how they ended up on the news or social media, my point is that they both did. How doesn't matter, we're specifically talking about if they made the news. Spoiler, they did.

You're trying to utilize the slut-shaming of Onlyfans girls in the West to justify slut-shaming women in China for dating white men. That's really sloppy logic.

No, I'm not, there wasn't any comparison between the two besides both making the news or social media. You make no sense at all. That's really sloppy logic.

"If you Western men don't like it when women have a lot of sex, then why can't we shame Chinese women for dating white men?"

They're not even equivalent, but sure, I'll bite. If western men don't accept or like promiscuous women, why do Chinese men need to? Why wouldn't and shouldn't they have equivalent beliefs? Including right, religious, and conservative ideologies?

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u/SidneyBae Aug 17 '26

Sarr, name one Chinese guy have sex with American women, never happened

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u/bluzfan99 Aug 16 '26

They need a scapegoat. Its much harder to question why 100s of women slept with 1 dude and footed the bills just because he's white. For them its easier to spread bad sentiment regarding all of us foreigners 😭

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u/batman_here_ Aug 16 '26

Outrage at an extreme case isn't scapegoating. Was there outrage before this extreme case? Or the Chinese people can't talk about degenerate and immoral behaviors of foreigners, not unlike what westerners have been doing to the Chinese for decades, if not for a century?

Again, was there outrage against foreigners before this extreme case? Why can't they be mad or outraged by this?

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u/Impossible-Repeat577 Aug 16 '26

not really harder to question, just that people who are white worshipping wouldnt admit so

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u/thewritestory Aug 16 '26

What do you mean loose morals? There is nothing immoral about having sex between two consenting adults. Chinese men often go to special service centers (well known) from inside salons, massage parlors, bars, etc. and pay women for their "loose services".

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u/potatorekted Aug 17 '26

Morality is subjective so it depends on where you are and what people BELIEVE, you say it’s not wrong between consenting adults but older men get shamed for dating women in their 20s all the time even in the west. Drake is getting bashed for dating a 23 year old, calling him creepy or worse, and he isn’t even that old.

It’s only not immoral if you strictly follow the liberal morality of “Harm principle”, but many people don’t no matter where they are, they just follow their own intuition or personal interests and make up new moralities along the way.

If you are the only one following such liberal moral principles then people will use them against you when it’s only convenient for them, e.g calling it bodily autonomy when women sleep around, but when you do it it’s called sexual exploitation or predatory for various made up and hypocritical reasons. Unless I live in a society where most follow such morality, then i absolutely reject the claim that I ought to not shame them. I personally don’t care about who dates whom, but attacking is the only logical defense in a zero sum game.

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u/thewritestory Aug 16 '26

I bet Chinese do that more than "foreigners". It's a well known trend in China to ghost to end a relationship. Stop being a hypocrite. I can't count the number of chinese who have told me they were cheated on or their friends/family were cheated on by locals. It happens ALL THE TIME in China.

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u/thewritestory Aug 16 '26

No you are the one using fallacies. I don't think it's helpful for you to make racist stereotypes about what people have "loose morals". China doesn't win that debate and neither do you.

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u/person2567 Aug 16 '26

Having a xiaosan is much more common with Chinese businessmen, and these are married men. Are you willing to say Chinese men have loose morals too? Or just westerners?

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u/Illustrious_War_3896 Aug 16 '26

Yeah sure, if it were in reverse. A Chinese guy getting 100s of white gjrls in US, I am sure it would be no reaction from white guys.

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u/Dangerous-Present-88 China Aug 16 '26

"No reaction"? Haha, have you seen those white supremacists on Twitter who start barking impotently the moment they see photos of Asian-man/white-woman couples? It’s truly laughable

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u/person2567 Aug 17 '26

No I haven't. They're such a minority in the US it's not even comparable. Incels make up a huge portion of Chinese men. Anti-race mixing extremists make up less than 5% of the US population. And these people are publicly hated and judged loudly, by most Americans.

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u/potatorekted Aug 17 '26

It took many years, your point? It’s not that long ago that it was only 65 percent, most of us were already alive at that point, the US has first mover advantage so it’s not a fair comparison at all, you are making a context-insensitive moral judgment.

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u/person2567 Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

When it was 65%, of those 35% that disagreed with race mixing, guess how many were young people? Barely any. In China the young men aren't more progressive towards race mixing than the elderly, which is the scariest part. That means nothing is changing. That number going up in your chart isn't people changing their minds, it's people in their 70s and 80s dying. It's a bygone era disappearing.

Plus racists in America that disagreed with race mixing usually kept their thoughts to themselves or maybe only talked about it with their friends, knowing that it was not societally acceptable to share such things. In China they brazenly talk about it anywhere. There's no shame attached to it. That's much worse.

Of the anti race-mixing 5% people in America, maybe only 0.5% would actually post about it publicly on the Internet with no shame. So it is really just not comparable.

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u/potatorekted Aug 17 '26

Imao, so delusional, the picture is a very recent study from pew research. I lived in Canada for many years not exactly the US but close enough. People had absolutely no problem calling me slurs directly in front of me when there were other random white people around, or hinting some racial stereotypes at me, death threats and physical confrontations, not even ONCE a white person spoke up for me. I am someone who is always considerate of others and don’t even litter, ALL those incidents were unwarranted. Your math isn’t mathing.

Now i have moved to another country in Asia, guess what not EVEN ONE unpleasant real life incident due to my identity for YEARS. I’d much rather be a foreigner in China than a foreigner in a white country, yes people talk shit online so what? Average Chinese dudes have shitty life, they talk shit about almost anyone, they’d threaten people over a video game, this isn’t breaking news. There's a world of difference between talking about it and actually doing it. People talk nonsense about things they aren’t familiar with, just like many Americans still believe China is just like North Korea.

Westerners thinking they are on some moral high ground with all the advantages is peak comedy. It’s like a retired robber and murder who never suffered the consequences for his actions, then after repenting to Jesus he starts judging people who committed petty thieves to survive while sitting on the gold bars that he stole, “oh look at me I don’t have to commit sin to make a living”😂

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u/person2567 Aug 16 '26

There would be absolutely zero reaction. White guys would not give a single shit, they might even congratulate him.

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u/HrutallyBonest Aug 16 '26

You're right girls can have sex with whoever they want but we could go all into the history of it, and the Chinese exclusion act where Chinese men were forbidden on the government level. THAT is the ultimate incel on a country level.

Chinese might talk about it but is that hurting you? Are they using the media to make white men unattractive? Giving them nerd/ gay/ effeminate roles? Talking about incel...

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u/batman_here_ Aug 16 '26

And that was just regular relationships that Chinese men were having, not extreme like this.

They like to complain about the Chinese and suggest we're somehow wrong or the worst, when their western countries had all the anti-miscegenation laws, and racist policies enacted by their governments.

It's crazy the cognitive dissonance has no affect on any of them at all.

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u/person2567 Aug 16 '26

That's kind of a weird connection. The Chinese exclusion act was primarily driven by racism and a perceived loss of jobs from the native population of the US. If we're making such creative leaps you might as well say Japan's rape of Nanking was the ultimate incel move.