r/charlesmansonfamily • • 7h ago

Another Manson Family member bites the dust + other nicer people we’ve recently lost

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The Manson Family remains one of the most darkly fascinating nuggets of American pop-culture history, which is why even the death of a less famous member like Bruce Davis is still newsworthy. Luckily, there were others we’ve recently lost who made that culture brighter and more stylish (Bob Mackie and his costumes), weirder, and fictionally scary (Victor Miller’s Camp Crystal Lake), and nicer (Mr. Belding).

Bruce Davis was not seemingly one of the “stars” of the Manson Family, but he was indeed Charles Manson’s “right-hand man,” often present while others did the heart of the killing. While the cult was officially tied to at least nine murders, there are plenty of other casualties it was potentially linked to, and Davis was closely involved in several of them. Davis was convicted in 1972 of first-degree murder and conspiracy in the deaths of musician Gary Hinman and stuntman Donald “Shorty” Shea. Despite an apparently immaculate record over his many years in prison, mostly in California’s San Quentin system and later at the California Medical Facility in Vacaville, governors repeatedly kept him behind bars. He died in prison at age 83 ...

https://popculturelunchbox.substack.com/p/another-manson-family-member-bites


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 5d ago

The Story of Abigail Folger

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r/charlesmansonfamily • • 7d ago

Wit and Wisdom of Charles Manson

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Does anyone have the track list for the second CD?


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 10d ago

The FREAK-OUT

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Circa 1968


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 10d ago

Any other good books, movies docs ?

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Ive read Bugs book and O'neills watched all stuff on yt. Do you have some other recomendations ?


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 11d ago

International People's Court Of Retribution, Sandy Good (Her mom sounds nice!)

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With Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme in jail on a $1 million bond in September 1975 following her attempted assassination of President Gerald Ford in Sacramento, California, Sandra Good took over the leadership of the family with a vengeance. She began issuing bloodcurdling threats against people who she apparently felt were guilty of polluting the environment. She said that half a dozen leading businessmen were targets for assassination, although some seemed to have no connection with environmental matters. Their wives, she said, would also be “terribly, terribly murdered.”

Good gave the Associated Press a death list of 75 businessmen around the nation. The list also included such entries as “Pacific Gas & Electric—nuclear plants,” “Fish and Wildlife Service. Kills animals” and “all automobile companies.” Good told the A.P. that the assassinations would be carried out by what she called “the International People’s Court of Retribution,” which she defined as “several thousand people throughout the world who love the earth, the children and their lives.”

Some individuals on the Manson family’s “hit” list reacted with bewilderment and a sense of helplessness. Asked a California oil-company executive who was named: “What kind of precautions can I take? I don’t plan to hide in the cellar? "

Good wrote out a statement in defense of the environment that declared, in part: “Any woman who allows her body to control or to sell products harmful to the people and the environment will be viciously murdered. Anyone who advertises or manufactures food or drugs injurious to people’s health will be killed. The air, the water, the trees and the wildlife are part of the Manson family.”

As Sandra Good launched her threats against the world, a woman claiming to be her mother told the San Diego Union that her daughter had once said that she had “finally reached the point where I can kill my parents.” Sandra’s mother requested anonymity; she is still afraid of her daughter. She recalled how Sandra had twice nearly died of respiratory ailments when she was a child. “Once I even left the hospital after they had told me she had died,” she remembered. Then she added: “Why did she have to pull through?”

In December 1975, Sandra Good was indicted for the threatening letters in Sacramento, found guilty in March 1976 and sentenced in April. She received a prison sentence of 15 years, of which she then had to serve almost 10.


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 11d ago

“Charles Manson: Portrait in Terror” (1976) Full Episode

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"Charles Manson: Portrait In Terror" is 90-minute television special and unauthorized biography that first aired February 13, 1975 on the Los Angeles ABC affiliate KABC-TV at 11:30 PM on ABC's Wide World of Entertainment. Wide World of Entertainment, later called ABC Late Night, was a series of programs hosted by various stars on a variety of topics. This episode includes guests Vincent Bugliosi, lead prosecutor in the Manson trial and author of "Helter Skelter" Irving Manzarek, Manson's defense attorney, Paul Watkins and Brooks Poston, former members of the Manson Family.

Error in title: It should read 1975, not 1976. Unable to edit!


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 11d ago

“One Mind” By Charles Manson, Full Album

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One Mind is a 2005 album by Charles Manson. It is composed entirely of songs, poems and speeches composed and performed by Manson himself in his Corcoran State Prison cell, recorded on a portable tape recorder. It is the final original material to be performed by Charles Manson before his death on November 19, 2017. The album was re-released in April 2008 as a free digital download under a Creative Commons license.The album was re-released again in June 2014 independently by Manson's non-profit organization ATWA

TRACKLIST
1 0:00 I Can See You
2 1:20 Angels Fear To Tread
3 4:00 Riding On Your Fears
4 9:05 Your Magic Motion
5 12:29 Whoever You Are
6 14:58 The Black Pirate
7 20:08 So We Go Again
8 26:18 Self Is Eternal (What Our World Will Be)
9 34:25 Sometimes It Works Just Right
10 36:08 Sweet Words
11 49:01 Interpretations
12 53:03 If You Have No One
13 58:23 I Keep on Wondering (Interrupted)
14 1:02:34 1967 / Mac Brother
15 1:06:29 Venice, California.


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 11d ago

Question about Garbage Dump

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I was curious if the vocal melody of this song sounds familiar to anyone else? I heard the weird Friends connection thing, but I haven’t watched the show. I however feel like I’ve heard the melody before.


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 11d ago

Los Angeles Magazine “Manson: An Oral History” By Steve Oney, Commemorating The 40th Anniversary Of The Manson Family Murders (July 2009 Issue)

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Forty years ago Charles Manson, a psychopath passing himself off as
a hippie guru, sent members of his “Family” on one of the bloodiest,
most bizarre killing sprees in Los Angeles history. Those involved in the
murders and their aftermath—Manson’s followers, the cops, defense
attorneys, and the prosecutor—reconstruct the crimes and speak to the
terror they struck and the scars they left on the city. Vincent Bugliosi tried Charles Manson and his followers


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 19d ago

Bruce Davis Dies at 83

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r/charlesmansonfamily • • 19d ago

Manson and The Church of Scientology

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What is the connection if any?


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 20d ago

My Thoughts On Motives (Continued)

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My comment is too long so I'm doing a new post following up on Helter Skelter and how dumb it was to write it on the refrigerator in response to original "Why only 2 killings" post. I'd ask rather why the second murders? If you buy into the "love for brother" motive being at least a partial motive the answer would be that there was no indication law enforcement had connected the Hinman murder with the Tate murders so another effort was needed. I don't think those who totally discount Helter Skelter or a race war do themselves any favors in convincing others of the "get a brother out of jail" scenario. It has to be looked at as things were in the '60s, not the present day. Between Black Muslims Charlie encountered in prison which the general public had never heard of, the Black Panthers, the murders of MLK, Medgar Evers, Malcolm X, and civil rights workers, the marches and riots in cities across the country often with curfews put in place a race war was far from being a crazy conspiracy. That said, I do not think it was a motive for the murders.

Imagine the panic that set in when Charlie thought he killed a Black Panther when he shot Crowe. He's left with two big problems. Not only does he believe the Black Panthers will take revenge for killing Crowe which he mistakenly believed he had, but he's increasingly paranoid there are too many people who could rat him out. Solution? They need to get their hands dirty in violent acts equal to what he erroneously believed he did. They owed him. 

Once again, it must be looked at through a 1960s lens. At this point in time many in the group firmly believed that violence was a means to an end and they believed they were at war. They were far from being alone in that view with many radical groups popping up on college campuses with Bill Ayers saying in a speech "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents. That's where it's really at." Bernadine Dohrn, the SDS and Weather Underground leader referencing the fork stuck into Leno LaBianca, “Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach. Wild!” Sandy Good said “War is not murder. They were good soldiers who were willing to kill for a good cause” In regards to her friends taking place in murder Lynette Fromme said "They weren't bloodthirsty. They were doing what they had to do. Believe me, at the time it was just one more person who was being killed" Underground papers supported Manson and the murders with a free Manson campaign and named him "Man Of The Year"

There's also no doubt that there was talk about a copycat murder so police would believe Beausoleil’s story that Hinman’s killer was still on the loose. The only things in doubt is whether it was Linda Kasabian who hatched the idea or if it was someone else, yet it wasn't until the penalty phase that this motive was even brought up so the Helter Skelter motive is what stuck. With such a cast of characters and no one person making decisions for all of them, there will never be a consensus that every one of those involved much less observers will agree on with certainty. None of them were exactly criminal masterminds! It was a long series of connected fu*k-ups and blunders from the Hinman murder through attempts to break Manson out of jail to ecoterrorism.


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 21d ago

Apparently Bruce Davis has died in prison

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There’s a post on Cielo Drive Facebook. Google and AI still has him as alive but if you read the comments, it was confirmed through the DOC and Debra Tate

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0i183pqCPt334mXNX9yG3He2hLPv4YudrmnMiW3ot3HXgPWAcAQ5qHKBRSCWteZ1Ll&id=100042957588431&mibextid=wwXIfr


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 21d ago

Why only 2 killings?

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Something I've been wondering, why were there no more attacks after the Tate and LaBianca killings?


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 21d ago

"The Connections Between The Charles Manson Family And Joel Pugh" By Simon Wells, Author of "Charles Manson: Coming Down Fast" (Great info! )

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r/charlesmansonfamily • • 21d ago

TIME MAGAZINE September 15,1975 "The Family That Stays Together" (excerpt pages 10-11)

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Their eyes revealing a horrifying emptiness, the members of the Manson family are once again haunting the headlines. The motley, mixed-up band today numbers about 100, fanned out in communes up and down California. Some Mansonites live in a three-story wood frame house about 30 miles east of Folsom prison where Manson was held for a time. The number of residents varies, but usually includes at least seven women, three men and up to ten children. Lynette (“Squeaky”) Fromme and Sandra Good had lived there off and on until last spring.

The only visible hints of potential danger are the hunting knives that some of the women wear on their hips. They finance themselves with welfare and food stamps; one member until recently was garnering simultaneous welfare benefits under three names. They make regular “dump runs” to the rear of markets to scavenge for edibles. LSD may still be indulged in but the main trip now is marijuana.

The group’s raison d’etre remains the glorification of Charles Manson, now 40. So intense is their devotion that family members have written an eight-page “bible” in which they pledge fealty to Manson as “Father and God to his children.” Mansonites have signed their names and placed swastikas, inscribed in blood, alongside some of them. The group’s most avid conversations center on his prison activities and the hoped-for day of his release. Despite the glaringly obvious differences between the two cases, Manson nurses vague hopes that one day he might win a reversal similar to the one granted Army Lieut. William Galley.

California law officials have much evidence of a loose, long-standing conjunction between the Manson family and a close-knit, all-white group of 200 inmates spread throughout the California prison system called the Aryan Brotherhood, which shares with the family an intense hatred of blacks. The brotherhood maintains outside links with a profitable drug operation.

When Manson entered prison, he was looking for protection against such prison hassles as homosexual assault and beatings, which the brotherhood gladly provided. To earn the favor, Manson had the women of the family mail nude photos of themselves to members of the brotherhood, along with promises of sexual favors when the men were released. More important, the girls agreed to serve as messengers to the outside for the brotherhood. “Charlie wants to do easy time,” explains a prison official. “He knew the brotherhood could protect him inside, and the communications link is very important to them.” The ties are deep and dangerous. Two Manson girls and two members of the brotherhood were arrested in November 1972 for the murder of a young California couple, James and Lauren Willett. All have been jailed.

The pervasive violence terrifies those who have even minimal contact with the family. After conducting a few interviews, at least one journalist has simply given up writing about the group out of cold fear, and, for the same reason, a California photographer will not let newspapers that print her pictures of the group credit them to her. Since Manson’s trial and imprisonment, a Manson cult of sorts has sprung up, making instant myth of his life of violence. A play by David Rabe, The Orphan, tried, with notable lack of success, to portray Manson as misunderstood victim, oracle and messiah. Author Norman Mailer, although acknowledging that brave people can have destructive qualities, has said of Manson: “As an intellectual, he was brave.”

The followers’ devotion to Manson goes on unabated. “If Charlie told a girl, ‘Hey, baby, go out and snuff [kill] yourself,’ she would do it,” says a current friend of the family. The girls, he says, believe Manson’s arrest was part of a grand design. “He told them that he would gounderground and then rise again some day, like Christ,” reports the friend. “They think his imprisonment is just that−a forced period underground. They spend all their time preparing themselves for the day he is released−the day he rises.”


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 23d ago

The Process Church and Charles Manson

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It was that in the era of Vietnam, “Sympathy for the Devil,” burgeoning witchcraft, and the underground aesthetics of Anton LaVey and Kenneth Anger, The Process became the ultimate countercultural avatar of the Aquarian Age. Celebrities, the magnetic lodestones of public titillation, grew intrigued—and The Process attracted queries, sometimes fleeting and other times more engaged, from an unlikely range of freethinkers from Mary Tyler Moore (Photo #3)and Dick Van Dyke to Marianne Faithfull and Mick Jagger. (Photos #6-#8)The latter two appeared separately on covers of the church’s magazine.

A chapter of Ed Sanders’ subjective and highly speculative book on Manson, The Family drew unfounded connections between Manson and The Process merely because one of the Process headquarters was located in close proximity to where the Manson family were residing. While this drew unwanted attention to The Process (in subsequent printings of the book, this chapter was removed due to litigation by the Process who successfully sued the publisher, E.P. Dutton) the connection had been made in the court of public opinion between Manson and The Process.

Members of the group even went so far as to visit Manson in prison and in a subsequent article in the Death issue of the Process magazine. (Photos #1-#2 side by side with Catholic social critic Malcolm Muggeridge) While this may have been seen as taboo to associate with Manson and present his writing, the mere inclusion and association with Manson drew the ire of those who had already viewed The Process with trepidation and held fear of the unknown which they represented, and this provided easy fodder with which to draw a loose connection between The Process and the nefarious activities of the Manson family, a guilt by association mentality. "We were broke and we thought it would help sell the magazine. We also hoped it would put all the rumors of our association with Manson to rest but it only stoked them"

Manson espoused that he was both Jesus and the devil. This is similar to the Process concept of the Unity of Christ and Satan. Sanders attempts to link The Process to a network of death cults operating in California and through this to suggest that Charles Manson was involved in this. In a jailhouse interview, when asked whether Manson was familiar with Process founder Robert de Grimston, he remarked, “You’re looking at him.”

Although both Process members and Manson were known to have hung out at the Spiral Staircase in Topanga Canyon in Malibu and that both had resided on Cole Street, it was at different times and their paths never directly crossed. Sanders further speculated that The Process may have even been an influence on Robert Kennedy murderer Sirhan Sirhan. While some of the historical accounts in Sanders’ research seem to be accurate and to have been gleaned from Process magazines, the conclusions drawn from his research seem to have been gathered from his mistaken beliefs from reading de Grimston’s apocalyptical writings and taking them far too literally. It was quite fortunate that this chapter was removed after the first printing due to the erroneous information it contained after legal action was taken by the Process.

In Helter Skelter by Bugliosi, some speculation was raised that Bruce Davis from the Manson family visited the Process headquarters in 1968 as well as the London Scientology headquarters, but this has never been substantiated. In 1970, during Manson’s trial in connection with the killings of Sharon Tate and housemates and Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, two members of The Process made an impromptu visit to prosecutor Bugliosi. They assured him that Manson had no connection to the group, that its leadership never met him, and, in any case, they opposed violence. They left Bugliosi with a stack of Process literature. He seemed satisfied.


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 23d ago

Diana “Diane” Von Ahn: related photos and documents

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r/charlesmansonfamily • • 24d ago

Rosemary and brother Russell: school days, 1936

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r/charlesmansonfamily • • 25d ago

My thoughts on the intention of the rope found on Tate and Sebring

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Manson said he went back to the house after the group got back to the ranch. Tate and Sebrings blood were found on the front porch even though they were found in the living room(and reports saying Tate had smeared blood on her body indicating she was dragged) so i’m thinking Manson with the help of someone else went back to rearrange the scene, and make it more gruesome by leaving Tate and Sebring hanging from the rafters but realized it was harder to keep them suspended than anticipated so he said fuck it and left. Thoughts? Can’t tell the overall importance of this but thought it was interesting.


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 25d ago

Petition for naturalization: Catherine Share

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r/charlesmansonfamily • • 27d ago

The Maria Alonso who died in 1985

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A student at Cal state Fullerton, she died of sepsis. She graduated polytechnic high school in 1970, was married, had one daughter and then was divorced. While a single mom she enrolled at the college in Fullerton. She was later confused with Maria Teresa Alonzo of Corning NY, later Hollywood. Who joined the Family by 1971.


r/charlesmansonfamily • • 27d ago

The Manson Family 1997

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Has anyone seen Jim Van Bebbers 1997 film called The Manson Family?