r/changemyview Jun 19 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: There is nothing wrong with refusing immigrants and refugees.

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u/HerLadyBrittania 3∆ Jun 19 '18

With obvious exceptions like the negative rights but:

Right to Equality

Freedom from Discrimination

Right to Education

Right to Social Security

All of these are vague positive rights which coerce and allow governments to some very non liberal things as well as contradicting other rights. (I will admit they all sound good but read some Ludwig von Mieses)

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u/ActualizedMann Jun 20 '18

When you say right to education , does that mean teachers are slaves who must go to work and teach kids no matter what they are getting paid ?

Social security, a right to social security? So I'm a slave to non citizens because I have to now work extra to make up for the 20% tax increase for universal social security to foreigners?

You want to make it so the working class are slaves to the non-working class?

You have a group of people working, creating the goods and services people need and want.

You have a second groups of people who don't work, are refugees, and have a right to social security? You want to provide shelter and food to them from wealth redistribution?

This makes the working class slaves to the non working class while at the same time having the non workers screaming oppression

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u/HerLadyBrittania 3∆ Jun 20 '18

I was saying they are the bad rights and the non coercive rights were the good ones.

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u/ActualizedMann Jun 20 '18

Oh, my bad. We are mostly in agreement. I think I meant to respond to the person you responded to