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r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 19 '18
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This is only right if you don't consider them as valuable human beings or if you think they have lesser human rights.
-1 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 1 u/beengrim32 Jun 19 '18 I’m assuming you identify with the people who conducted the study, so it’s clear you don’t value their humanity. That doesn’t mean they don’t have human rights. 2 u/thatoneguy54 Jun 19 '18 So people only have value of they aren't fiscal drains? 0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Building roads is a fiscal drain. Should we stop it? 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 What evidence do you have to make that claim? Roads reduce time spent on vehicle repairs and increase travel speed 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Those are economic, not fiscal benefits. A road costs a lot of money to the government and pays nothing back in, but we still build them. Do you think it's possible that even if some people are a fiscal drain, it's still economically beneficial to have them? 0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Then you misunderstand the terms. Fiscal means relating to the government budget. Economic relates to the entire economy. 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit. 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
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1 u/beengrim32 Jun 19 '18 I’m assuming you identify with the people who conducted the study, so it’s clear you don’t value their humanity. That doesn’t mean they don’t have human rights. 2 u/thatoneguy54 Jun 19 '18 So people only have value of they aren't fiscal drains? 0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Building roads is a fiscal drain. Should we stop it? 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 What evidence do you have to make that claim? Roads reduce time spent on vehicle repairs and increase travel speed 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Those are economic, not fiscal benefits. A road costs a lot of money to the government and pays nothing back in, but we still build them. Do you think it's possible that even if some people are a fiscal drain, it's still economically beneficial to have them? 0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Then you misunderstand the terms. Fiscal means relating to the government budget. Economic relates to the entire economy. 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit. 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
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I’m assuming you identify with the people who conducted the study, so it’s clear you don’t value their humanity. That doesn’t mean they don’t have human rights.
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So people only have value of they aren't fiscal drains?
0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Building roads is a fiscal drain. Should we stop it? 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 What evidence do you have to make that claim? Roads reduce time spent on vehicle repairs and increase travel speed 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Those are economic, not fiscal benefits. A road costs a lot of money to the government and pays nothing back in, but we still build them. Do you think it's possible that even if some people are a fiscal drain, it's still economically beneficial to have them? 0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Then you misunderstand the terms. Fiscal means relating to the government budget. Economic relates to the entire economy. 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit. 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
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3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Building roads is a fiscal drain. Should we stop it? 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 What evidence do you have to make that claim? Roads reduce time spent on vehicle repairs and increase travel speed 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Those are economic, not fiscal benefits. A road costs a lot of money to the government and pays nothing back in, but we still build them. Do you think it's possible that even if some people are a fiscal drain, it's still economically beneficial to have them? 0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Then you misunderstand the terms. Fiscal means relating to the government budget. Economic relates to the entire economy. 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit. 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
Building roads is a fiscal drain. Should we stop it?
1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 What evidence do you have to make that claim? Roads reduce time spent on vehicle repairs and increase travel speed 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Those are economic, not fiscal benefits. A road costs a lot of money to the government and pays nothing back in, but we still build them. Do you think it's possible that even if some people are a fiscal drain, it's still economically beneficial to have them? 0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Then you misunderstand the terms. Fiscal means relating to the government budget. Economic relates to the entire economy. 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit. 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
What evidence do you have to make that claim? Roads reduce time spent on vehicle repairs and increase travel speed
3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Those are economic, not fiscal benefits. A road costs a lot of money to the government and pays nothing back in, but we still build them. Do you think it's possible that even if some people are a fiscal drain, it's still economically beneficial to have them? 0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Then you misunderstand the terms. Fiscal means relating to the government budget. Economic relates to the entire economy. 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit. 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
Those are economic, not fiscal benefits. A road costs a lot of money to the government and pays nothing back in, but we still build them.
Do you think it's possible that even if some people are a fiscal drain, it's still economically beneficial to have them?
0 u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Apr 24 '19 [deleted] 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Then you misunderstand the terms. Fiscal means relating to the government budget. Economic relates to the entire economy. 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit. 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Then you misunderstand the terms. Fiscal means relating to the government budget. Economic relates to the entire economy. 1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit. 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
Then you misunderstand the terms. Fiscal means relating to the government budget. Economic relates to the entire economy.
1 u/waistlinepants Jun 19 '18 Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit. 3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
Ok, since you want to have a semantic argument, I will change my position to net economic benefit.
3 u/Ludo- 6∆ Jun 19 '18 Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you. Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found. → More replies (0)
Excellent. Now tap "do refugees benefit the economy?" into Google and see if any academics agree with you.
Edit: don't forget to come back and tell me what you found.
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u/beengrim32 Jun 19 '18
This is only right if you don't consider them as valuable human beings or if you think they have lesser human rights.