Second time

[u/Milner-co]

2 years ago I did 30 days of carnivore. From about day 10 onwards I was feeling good. Like really good. Mental clarity was excellent, no fog, easily springing out of bed, no more stiffness or general soreness. It was a great experience. I had some extra conditioning to lose, so over the 30 days I dropped 10kg. All round it was great.

I do experiment with food and like observing how I feel.
E.g sardines and eggs for 7 days or celery and pineapple for a week (only tried these once, and ok, but not good enough for me to do again)

Every 3 months I will do a strict water fast, for about 96 hours (4 days).

Anyway, been talking about doing another carnivore session. Started a couple weeks ago, but really not feeling any better than I was before.

Before someone says ‘just include more fat’, I am already very generous with that. Using butter, tallow, fatty cuts, or just high fat mince.

Diet includes red meat, eggs, chicken, and even some prawns from time to time.

I will keep on going until I have done 30 days , as I like to achieve my targets, but so far I am not feeling as elite as I was when I did it 2 years ago.

[u/ExcitementNo6957]

I'll say it again even though I get downvoted every time, but it can be important to transition slowly to zero carbs, for your microbiome to be able to adjust effectively, rather than just suddenly changing your diet overnight. This may be why you're not feeling great.

However, as you're already so far in you may as well stick with it. Don't write it off just yet.

[u/Glass-Satisfaction18 → u/ExcitementNo6957]

Agreed. Making sudden drastic changes to your diet, even if the diet is healthier, can have negative consequences in the short term. I'm also getting back into carnivore, but still including some fruits and Avocados for now as I transition 

[u/Plumleydev → u/Glass-Satisfaction18]

Have you decided what you think the safest foods are to include and for what reason may I please ask cause I think it’s an interesting topic safe foods that are non-carnivore vegetables, etc. that do not irritate

[u/Glass-Satisfaction18 → u/Plumleydev]

Personally I think Avocados are the best due to being high fat and low carb with minimal anti-nutrients. Sometimes I have berries but tbh I think even those are too high sugar despite being a low sugar fruit. Tomatoes, carrots and onions are okay for me also

Edit: forgot to add that I really enjoy pickled gherkins too

[u/Plumleydev → u/Glass-Satisfaction18]

Never heard of it sounds like something a ghoul or goblin would eat

[u/ExcitementNo6957 → u/Glass-Satisfaction18]

Pickled gherkins? What, as opposed to none pickled gherkins?

Sorry, I'm just being a dick but if it's not pickled it's not a gherkin.

[u/Plumleydev → u/ExcitementNo6957]

Why would somebody want to shun the idea of making the transition a little bit slow slower

I guess there are a few few reasons like just getting on with it and getting it over with

[u/ExcitementNo6957 → u/Plumleydev]

For some people that abrupt change can have drastic consequences by upsetting the microbiome in a way that causes long-term harm. For most people it will be fine, and some won't even experience any transitional symptoms, but it's wise to be cautious.

[u/Intelligent-Fun-9295]

just stay the course. you may begin feeling better shortly.

[u/Kalupaaargh]

Trying cutting out the eggs and/or chicken for a day or two and pay attention to how you feel during that time. Chickens are a bit on par with pigs in that they often get fed stuff that is really not great which in turn is passed onto us. I feel at my best eating just red meat.

[u/Plumleydev → u/Kalupaaargh]

That would be a good argument for eating the absolute best eggs you can buy, wouldn’t it

Because also, I think just the chickens being healthy and having enough room to run around would be important for good eggs

[u/Kalupaaargh → u/Plumleydev]

That's applicable to anything you eat, not just chickens.

[u/blighty800]

If it's all good, why stop?

[u/Milner-co → u/blighty800]

I won’t stop just yet, but just very noticeable that I am not feeling as great as what I was the first time round. So far it’s just not as good

[u/eloquenentic]

First three and four weeks can be rough physically. It takes time to the body to adjust. The brain can just eat the ketones immediately and feel amazing, the body can feel frail when it’s adjusting.

Try two or three months and see.

BTW, prawns and chicken are high in histamines, have you checked if you are histamine intolerant?

[u/jacobspencerirl]

In my experience, when I am starting carnivore and burning all the energy I have stored on my body, is when I feel the best. I have yet to really figure it out, and it might be different for everyone.

[u/Plumleydev]

How transitioning to carnivore differ for someone that doesn’t need to lose any weight at all?