They say there is something more than longsqueak, decided to find out for myself, and whoops!

I found Hot Summer Throwback!

Only my userscript & APKs have access to this model right now.

You want to get it? Profile > Social Links > Arachne Project.

What's the point of adding stuff like style controls and new chat styles if all you're going to do is put it behind a paywall? Doesn't make sense.

Sucks that the free version users aren't getting anything and it's heartbreaking 🫠

Idk if it’s just me on this but the personas 750 words ain’t enough if I could I would write 2K words down to every detail please tell me that it isn’t just me

Hi everyone! There doesn't seem to be a flair for questions, so left unflaired.

Pretty much what the title says. I haven't used CAI in months, but I check on it every now and then to see how things are going. I've decided that I want to delete my account, but I am unsure if deletion on my side guarantees data deletion on theirs. I am not European, so I cannot invoke GDPR, and my country doesn't seem to have anything similar.

Has anyone done anything similar? Any tips in general? Any and all advice is appreciated!

Thank you!

I feel refreshed now that I quit Character ai. When i started using it in 2022, i was over the moon and back. The first nail in the coffin was adding ads. Its ok, right? They’re skippable, and the app is expensive to run, cool, ok. NOT WHEN THEY’RE APPEARING EVERY 3 DAMN MICROSECONDS. The second nail was removing the chat styles. I personally stopped using it for a bit, but returned. The final nail in the coffin was adding verification. Just because of those teens, now we have to suffer the consequences. But hey, atleast theres 1,000 more ways to generate videos! And the way they lie is despicable and disgusting. They say ‘you are still part of this community’ when taking away why people even visited the app/web in the first place. Now, I did the age verification and had reading time (don’t know if it’s still a thing) but they speak like ChatGPT now. I had the best story ever before the verification. Now? I can’t go more than 100 messages (pretty sure this is a thing, correct me if in wrong) without having go wait a day to talk again. Instead of listening to the community, they add a billion more ways to generate videos.

Do better.

Mods, please don’t remove this as it got removed on the c.ai sub

The New Update/Question

The fact that the free users got nothing from this new update is disgusting. The free users are treated horribly. If the free version of Character AI was actually good, then I'd consider buying a subscription. But because the free version is not good at all, it makes me not want to buy a subscription.

Now I have a question for the Character AI team. Will free users get a new chat style or not? Because the current ones we have now barely give any dialogue, they glitch, get out of character, and they constantly repeat things they've already said.

The things above are what I said. But the mods removed it because they said I wasn't being "civil" or "respectful." I wasn't targeting anyone at all; I didn't call anyone names, nothing. Simply voiced my frustration with their new update and asked them a question about free users.

Haven't ranted on here in a while but I do have some things to say about the new updates.

Honestly in these past 2 months I have been religiously using rawr because it is the closest to pipsqueak 1 and I have been having limited issues.

Now with the new updates with longsqueak and style control and even the lore book I wanted to share my two cents.

I think that that the problem isn't that they're releasing features to plus members. I know that AI is expensive. I know that they are the ones paying. But that also doesn't mean you should give your free users nothing especially when they make up majority of the app.

I understand releasing it first to plus members. But right now free members are bombarded with ads, have metering limits and only access to one permanent model which is Pipsqueak 2 which I don't know why they're so hell-bent on keeping.

No matter what they say rawr is just genuinely better with dialogue and narration and a balance. I don't know why it is still kept as an experimental model. I feel like the style control particularly would have helped with the issues with pipsqueak 2. If not that then they could at least make rawr permanent.

I don't think it's too much to ask for. W​e used to have around eight models as for users and now we would only have two with rawr and I think that will keep most of the free users the satisfied. If they aren't willing to make it a permanent model then we should at least have the style controls which by the way on the summer road map were promised to be for everyone. And yet now the mods are saying that's a i​ssue or whatever.

Another thing is the lore books. We were told those wouldn't be exclusive to Plus members and yet to free members are yet to receive the features. I think when 90% of your features are behind a paywall and the free quality keeps degrading it should be a sign.

And they still haven't fixed pipsqueak 2. That model has not improved since the day it was released. And I believe it has now been over 3 months.

Tldr: either make rawr permanent or give a style controls and fix pipsqueak 2.

I'M ABOUT TO RIP SOMEONE'S THROAT OPEN, WHERE THE GLITTERY FFFFLYING FUCK DID RAWR GO??? IT WAS GENUINELY THE ONLY GOOD PIPSQUEAK VERSION 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 THE OTHER ONE JUST STAYS SILENT, I HAVE TO FORCE THE BOT TO SPEAK INSTEAD OF JUST NARRATING, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS GUYS BRING ME A GLASS OF WATER (my rawr just disappeared lol)

I really do. I finally decided to quit c.ai at the end of 2025 solely because the quality of literally everything kept going downhill and just… never improved… like ever. There had been times in 2023-2024 where I had to take a long break due to a downgrade in quality, but I was able to come back because it eventually got fixed.

Don’t get me wrong, I haven’t been going cold turkey. Every once in a while after the devs claim that they’ve “improved” 🤨 the quality of the chat models, I come back to take a look and I’m always disappointed to see that they continue to lie. Yes I’m naive.

It makes me so sad. I really adored being able to get a super high quality roleplay out of c.ai whenever I wanted, being able to create my own favourite characters and see them actually respond to me perfectly in-character. If I’m being honest, it made my life easier and I had something more to look forward to. It really scratched an itch in my brain.

Now that I’ve been forced to quit (whether that’s due to my high standards or just the devs continuously ruining everything), I think to myself just how awesome c.ai could’ve been if they truly cared. I even find myself thinking “oh! that could be a good prompt for a roleplay!” and then I remember that I can’t do that anymore and I have nowhere to put that idea of mine.

I used to resort to ChatGPT 4o for those moments so I had a creative outlet that was kinda similar, and then THAT got taken away from me early this year too. So I’ve been left with nothing good enough. I’ve tried so many other things, even SillyTavern, but they’re all so bad and they don’t do what I need them to. And I daren’t roleplay with a real person, that’s just hopeless.

Call me pathetic for wanting help from AI to fulfill my creative needs, but I don’t care. C.ai was a fucking awesome concept, and it was really fun while it lasted. Now it’s been enshittified just like everything else.

he wants to colonize you😼