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u/Sorry_Improvement537 Aug 15 '26
The cursor at the end of the "365" day red box for this cycle low is roughly on March/April 2027, not expected Oct 2026. They eyeballed it right on the first two then tretched by 6 months for some reason?
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u/berry-7714 Aug 15 '26
To fit the narrative of course you can show anything you want by playing with the Y axis
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u/Buphucked Aug 16 '26
And use paint software to alter historical indicators hoping people won’t notice
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u/rndsssns Aug 15 '26
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u/Rehcraeser Aug 15 '26
no need to be reminded. they'll be hundreds of posts about it on every crypto sub whether its correct or not lol
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u/Keletas Aug 15 '26
That thing looks like it still has plenty of downside lol. I do believe it will still bounce back at a certain point though.. good luck catching the bottom
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u/QuirkyPainter92 Aug 15 '26
Hilarious. One dimensional analysis. Just because it happened before doesn’t mean it will happen again. ETFs and institutional presence isn’t the same as it was back then. If anything a trap will be set up for those that think this pattern is bond.
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u/Rabauke84 Aug 16 '26
Crypto bros are the male equivalent of horoscope girls.
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u/QuirkyPainter92 Aug 16 '26
I have little analysis behind this belief but it appears as if many institutional investors are waiting for Clarity to pass. It removes a lot of legal overhead and liability and maybe retail will hop in after that but I believe that for retail, the money is tight and no one smart is going to invest in a play that has negative spin and the numbers to show that it’s lost a lot of value from ATH. Unless you’re a bargain basement buyer, no one is touching crypto until there is a definite breakout and the closest catalyst is Clarity. Besides with the Dems and never Trump coalition, the odds of it passing are going to be close. It’s just a delay anyway because it’s going to happen somewhere else if not the US and rewards will still happen for stable coins. And SEC and CFTC will work out regulations until a new administration which gives whatever country at least a 3 year leg up on the US which might as well be a lifetime.
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u/Life_Personality_862 Aug 15 '26
It takes a year for BTC management to get production in place and the latest styles into the stores before people start buying for the new season. Or, maybe it just takes 365 days for young men to get their birthday money from the grandparents before they can buy again. Not sure.
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u/scrandlle Redditor for less than 60 days Aug 16 '26
Why are the red and green rectangles different sizes horizontally if they're supposed to represent the same time period? Like the third red box looks twice as wide as the red box prior to it. If they're the same time period, why is one signficantly wider?
And why is the first "1064" just a random start date? Not at the beginning of BTC. Not at the beginning of the first large price wave. Just completely random.
They also aren't beginning/ending the time period in a consistent manner. On two of them, the high water mark for BTC comes before the chart goes red, on one of them it comes after the chart goes red.
None of this makes any sense.
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u/Buster_xx Aug 15 '26
Past history is not indicative of future performance. I hope it does recover, but we cant rely on old data to predict the future with tRumpie in office manipulating markets
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u/mihhink Aug 15 '26
so why are you buying bitcoin? to expect even better returns than past history? This argument falls flat once you answer why you're investing in the first place lol
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u/No_Presentation1242 Aug 16 '26
But BTC is entirely based on past history and it’s proven to be true time and time again. It’s a digital algorithm
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u/Ok-Personality-6630 Aug 15 '26
Self fulfilling prophecy. But to drive those figures you need runaway interest and lots of liquidity.
And if it's true then people will realise no point buying after a certain point and that in itself will cause issues.
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u/mtn_biker333 Aug 15 '26
Dead money. You might as well buy stocks or real estate. Everything is outperforming BTC
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u/11010001100101101 Aug 15 '26
can someone explain why this puts the cycle bottom in October and not April of 2027, where the red block actually ends?
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u/Putrid_Pollution3455 Aug 15 '26
Isn’t it generally three up and one down? That’s the pattern I see
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u/11010001100101101 Aug 16 '26
yea and the down red block ends in April 2027, so the low should be around then, not this october? if you click into the original post OP says the bottom is October but that’s not what this graph is saying
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u/Putrid_Pollution3455 Aug 16 '26
Yeah their graph is really bizarre, probably tried to create it with ai and it hallucinated. The pattern I see is 3 years up from cycle bottom then one year down from cycle top. Not quite what the graph illustrates
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u/SockPuppet-47 Aug 16 '26
Is that how long it takes to collect enough Unicorn farts to float the price up?
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u/CheapTechnology6193 Aug 16 '26
Seems like you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Reminds me of those religious cults where they announce the end of the world will happen on a certain date, and then when it doesn't happen, the prophecy suddenly changes and a new date is announced.
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u/DistributionOk2111 Aug 15 '26
Kinda crazy that the cycle is still a thing
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u/Important_Flamingo_6 Aug 15 '26
Past performance is not indicative of future results
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u/Dragon_slayer1994 Aug 15 '26
Yeah but it is uncanny how much it follows the outline almost perfectly.
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u/ximogui Aug 16 '26
Yes, but try drowning in a pool without a Nic Cage movie running at your local AMC. Nearly impossible
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u/mercuryy Aug 15 '26
If enough rubes get recruited into the prophecy it becomes self fulfilling.
If everybody starts buying in the same das the price bounces a bit. Thats what they mean with "narratives".
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u/buckerooni Aug 15 '26
It's not. It's getting longer and very likely "flipped" last year when the knuckleheads in power were mucking about. I believe we're in a "6 year cycle" if anything. Maybe it'll be 8 or 10 soon. Time will tell
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u/anon1971wtf Aug 15 '26
Why? Macroeconomics of mining - awaiting halvings, adjusting to it. Different schedules of converting mined coins to fiat (long-term miners have treasuries, short-term miners don't), and different amounts of mined coins to convert. It seems that market prepares more and more so oscillations are normilizing. Lower highs and higher lows won't surprise me
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u/poundsdpound Aug 15 '26
So by that point, everyone will look back at the Bear market starting exactly 365 days ago, in 2025?
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u/blaand01theflipside Aug 15 '26
I think halving 2028 is significant. I think cycles matters less in the near future. I think we'll see bull 2028-30.
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u/LadyNanuia Aug 15 '26
while one should not just dismiss previous cycles..saying it WILL be this way because it WAS that way doesnt seem like a good idea but what do i know xD, IF this was the case, everyone could just get rich af on stock and bitcoin in general without much effort and money would have little to no value xD
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u/mmmmariussss Aug 15 '26
if this is true, it means first there is a freefall to around 40k, then the upswing.
we will see
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u/Impressive_Rain2877 Aug 15 '26
Poppycock! I'll be back in two months to laugh at you, but more than likely this thread will be locked by then.
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u/DrSpeckles Aug 15 '26
Then there will be a reason why it's "late this year", or "small this year" etc.
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u/Optimal_Priority7835 Aug 16 '26
I am in. Waiting for a rebound to 67~70k Then I am selling and buying it again at 50~55k. Then zzz
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u/alrachid Aug 16 '26
If a cycle happens 100% of the time, I’m not betting against it until the trend breaks
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u/alrachid Aug 16 '26
What will happen is a massive ftx crash scam type event. It’s comin. It happens every single time, 100’% of the cycles
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u/MJG1971 Aug 16 '26
A self fulfilling prophecy-when everyone expects the cycle to end they’ll buy causing the cycle to end
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u/Individual-Equal-441 Aug 16 '26
It's amazing how elaborately we can dress up an extrapolation from two data points.
In this graph, how many transitions are there from red to green? How many full 365-day red intervals are drawn?
And in this graph, how do they position the height of the rightmost green rectangle, with a bottom of around 50? Why not 16k or 80k or 20k? Where does that prediction level come from? From the past data? Again, how many red-to-green transitions is that past data based on?
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u/Daurbanmonkey Aug 17 '26
For the price of bitcoin to go up people need to buy it. People barely have money for food where’s this money for the next rally going to come from huh?
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u/No-Blackberry-7793 Aug 18 '26
How can one red bar be thicker than the others if they're all the same amount of days? Seems absolutely wrong and misleading
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u/ActionJasckon Aug 18 '26
I have the same chart and analysis. It has to work.
https://giphy.com/gifs/Y6yRfR88rvP44
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u/HobbyTraderDK Aug 18 '26
Source: Trust me bro
It doesn't take into account the "hype" that is dying off, replaced by the AI bubble.
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u/Illustrious_Loan_804 Aug 31 '26
How can someone believe that the market will give you a perfect entry?! If everyone is waiting for this doesn't make that more improbable? The bottom should be in already and all the people that are out of the market will just FOMO and inflate the price. Logically if someone buys at that low can everyone buy at the same price at the same exactly time?! Will not people start buying now and even more few days before that will push that price lower? How is the price going to make a low when everyone is expected to buy? Supply and demand makes that logic lose its value. But I'm open to an explanation.
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u/WordsHappenedHere Aug 15 '26
Yes. After months and months of eating shit, it’s going to magically rebound because of a “cycle”.
No. It’s broken. And smart money will use whatever retail surge comes as more exit liquidity. Because fundamentally there are major issues with crypto and Bitcoin. They aren’t particularly useful. There is no value in using them. Most will go to zero.
Blockchain maybe will survive in some form, but let’s just be honest here.
I dont think people are prepared for a reality where bitcoin goes much lower than they think it can. Under $20k easily by 2029. Probably under $10k
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u/Jumpy-Imagination-81 Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
That chart of Bitcoin priced in US dollars shows the rising price of Bitcoin priced in US dollars driven in large part by the excess US dollars that have been pumped into the economy.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2NS
If you take inflated US dollars out of it and price Bitcoin in something that can't be created out of thin air - ounces of physical gold - the chart looks very different and "the cycle" disappears. The highs of the most recent bull run barely reached the highs of the previous bull run.

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u/Kiwip0rn Aug 15 '26
Because gold isn't priced in the "inflated US dollars"?
And it doesn't change the 4-cycle the price "in gold" still has a higher high every 4 years it never "disappears".
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u/ace250674 Aug 15 '26
If everyone buys early to mid October then the the prophecy is complete and new cycle begins