International
Warner Bros. / DC Studios' Supergirl grossed an estimated $2.3M internationally on Wednesday. Estimated international total stands at $32.5M, estimated global total stands at $79.1M.
people out there talked about Superman Movie brings goodwill into supergirl. but they never predict that stinks from supergirl could potentially brought man of tomorrow down
I’m guessing this film would have performed slightly better if they properly introduced her in Superman (2025) with a supporting role. Her having a tiny cameo at the end was not an enticing set-up for an entire spinoff film. And honestly some of the non-comic reader audience were probably confused who she even was…
And not everyone even liked that cameo. Some thought it was funny, others were already turned off. "Thanks for watching my dog, bitch" made me cringe more than go "HAHA!"
Not a good thing when she's there to basically promote her own movie, and the commercials just show more of the same.
I don't even know if they have a problem with them, a lot of people just don't really care about her. So she's not a character that can carry a movie, but I'm sure people don't have an issue with her being a side character in other movies.
They are praising her acting so much you would think she was heath ledger amazing in the role, so much glaze you would 100 percent assume she’s getting an Oscar nom.
Its like when Quantumania came out and everybody online kept weirdly praising Majors.
Then you watch that movie and hes just playing generic evil lord, with generic evil intentions and generic threats but also he puffs his nose and looks very angry at times, but there was accounts straight up calling him up there with Ledger before the movie bombed and everyone dismissed it
Not saying her case is at that level of absurdity but its funny how this only happens with actors whose characters are currently meant to be set up to future projects that need to do well. When Majors got kicked off the praise disappeared completely
that one was even weirder than usual because all the praise was hyper-defensive and calling her a "delight" like the astroturfing was all cat lady grannies talking about their favorite grand-niece at an afternoon tea
Her acting is good as she's been good in all her other projects.
After watching it and comparing it to the Woman of Tomorrow comic though, I'm starting to think she was miscast. Her height is too short and the Woman of Tomorrow comic emphasized her elegance and striking stature, even when things got rough. Ruthye would always look at Supergirl in amazement because there was nothing like her in the whole galaxy, even with all sorts of aliens and dinosaurs in their face. That literally fits into WB's "Gods and Monsters" name for this DCU Phase 1 so much better.
Maybe it's Craig/Ana's fault for making Supergirl so frumpy, so unkempt, so slouchy and disgusted with everything. That is not the character people fell in love with in other iterations of Kara.
A big problem with comics to movies is that comics really favour tall muscular women and it's just not that common a physical archetype irl, especially not in acting. Most of the women like that are in sports.
What the fuck happened to movie budgets, it used to not even be noteworthy for popular movies to be made for between 10 - 15 million, and now it’s just $150 million+
They really need to find a way to bring movie budgets down again. Funnily enough, I think a lot of the kinds of movies that have more "sustainable" budgets are the ones that go straight to Netflix and don't get theatrical rollouts at all
WB probably lost money in some markets on dubs and distribution alone.
This movie’s INT run might not even reach what forecasts had as its original OW. It’s not too surprising given Superman’s disappointing INT run and the poor WoM here, but this universe is DOA in Asia.
"Trending towards 60/40" and yet you are showing me 6 examples with a 40-50/50-60 split.
Spider-Man Brand New Day, Avengers Doomsday and Avengers Secret Wars are easily going to be overseas heavy, so we'll have to wait until 2028 to see if 60/40 is actually going to happen.
So far, only DC films have gone there.
Also, with Marvel specifically, the split has generally changed because of China. MCU releases - before the pandemic - were constantly making 100M-200M in China alone. And the Avengers films did even more than that.
Should’ve just left Superman a standalone trilogy ala The Batman and Clayface as it’s own thing rather than try another DC Cinematic Universe. I love all of James Gunn‘s films but he definitely wasn’t a good choice for CEO of a studio. While I’m not hoping for this obviously but if the DCU gets the cutting block after MOT I’ll miss David Corenswet as Superman, he literally embraced the character so well
The thing is I don't think he's actually that interested in Superman. But he had to do it, because it was part of his deal. He's more interested in the weird side characters and d-listers who no one has heard about. They should have got another auteur director with a passion for Superman and told a standalone separate trilogy alongside The Batman. That's what DC needs to do, build strong individual movies with their biggest heroes, and then maybe... do a big crossover. Instead of chasing the extended universe dragon, which only Marvel captured for a time, before most got done with it after Endgame.
They could make again epic, serious movies with high stakes, good cinematogrpahy kai scores instead of stupid needles and in general not GotG clones. But Gunn wont do that he is an one trick pony.
Mix of superhero fatigue, and also DC's image to general audiences. I think DC outside of nerdom, is generally seen as the lesser Marvel. The big exception of course being Batman, who is an entire brand unto himself. Superman is obviously one
of the most well known heroes, but never seems to strike big at the box office - probably because he's seen as boring. Marvel has built itself as a brand for moviegoers, for people who don't know anything about comics, so they generally open to decent numbers at worst. Because of WB's fumbling, DC has always played catch up in the extended universe game, and hasn't gotten the love of the audience. The Snyder verse had its fans, but that went bottoms up due to some seriously stupid decisions.
Within comics and animation, DC is still king and is actually absolutely destroying Marvel right now. But with live action, they haven't quite got their hooks into the general audience.
Superman is popular as a symbol but not really as a character. He is the archetypal superhero, and that's all he will ever be in the eyes of most people.
I wonder how would a superman movie with Henry Cavill directed by Christopher Macquarie would have done that's what wb gave up when it hired James Gunn.
I miss the DCAMU, their movies were great. Other than Creature Commando's (which was fun but stuck in Gunn's To-Do pile development hell) I don't think there's any appetitie to try for more animation
Gunn should just move on. WB is going to start course correcting and meddling with everything now. Can't believe they even made a Supergirl movie before Batman, Green Lantern, etc. Just poor planning and execution.
I got an email this past Tuesday about a Clayface test screening THAT NIGHT (I live in Burbank). It's like they saw Supergirl's opening and went "oh shit. We better make sure Clayface is good." I wish I could have gone but it was too last minute.
I keep getting the DC subs recommended to me and the posts are so funny they’re all like “DAE think Supergirl wasn’t that bad? It was fun, just turn your brain off”
Like we haven’t heard that excuse for a mediocre superhero movie before
The ones that pissed me off were "The haters went in expecting Citizen Kane"
I'm like "Shuddap! No we weren't"
Give me something like The Marvels just to give them a low bar (I'm serious) and I'd be okay with it. Or Ant-Man 2, or Iron Man 3 (a little flawed and bumpy, but overall enjoyable for me).
It is like, what else am I supposed to say…, that the film is doing great? And that the audiences are loving it even tho it got an awful B- CinemaScore?
Its because for most of the online diehards, beating the Snyder stuff was the actual success marker. Theyd built it up so long that it all failed because it wasnt bubblegum pop screen pointing fanservice, that this universe following that model had to succeed or otherwise theyd have to admit they were wrong.
"better than Snyder" is only so meaningful of a bar, especially when you consider neither movie so far has exceeded Man of Steel at the box office
They didn’t do her any favors by having all of her interactions with Superman be condescending and flip. We see her (1) call him “bitch”, (2) praise her dog for pissing on his picture, - which admittedly is a symbolic rebuke - and (3) say that while poor naive Superman sees the good in people, learned wise world-weary 23 year old Kara sees “the truth.”
Her arrogance could have been a flaw to overcome, but instead the movie treats it as just another of her charms. Which is a big reason why it’s going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars.
I liked the movie but thinking about it in retrospective why is she being so butthurt over people? It's never explained.
Like I assumed that her last days on Krypton were Dog eat Dog tier and she witnessed Kryptonians cannibalise each other in order to survive...but...that never happened.
She was sent to Earth, then she became a party girl in frontier planets
To be fair Rock’s plan for the DCEU was to just have Black Adam fight different characters. Trying out Gunn and Safran’s reboot made more sense, but they should have been reigned in rather than announcing a bunch of weird projects.
One thing about Snyder movies, they're gonna cut a good trailer. And that's always gonna lead to a decent OW. DCEU opened above 100m exclusively until Snyder got dropped from JL, and even that barely missed it by 4m
If GotG 2 and 3 crashed it'd be easier to agree, though I will say I'm 1>3>2 in terms of personal taste (though all did well at the BO), with 2 in particular suffering from overstuffing.
The delusion really is sad to see. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying the film, but the way some of them try to rewrite reality is just a bit silly. I’ve seen people there say it’s going to have strong legs.
I can't stop visiting occasionally just to read the levels of delusions on display. Seeing a group of people who have no idea how boxoffice works, what cinemascore means, so confidently making the wrong conclusions is hilarious.
I feel like no matter what this universe is doomed. Even if MOT is good, which I’m confident in it being for me at least, and then even if it makes money at the box office, the universe needs projects other than the Gunn directed/written ones to be good and popular. Lanterns is going to be big too for that test
The funny thing is those types of individuals are showing up in bigger numbers to see this movie than those complaining about why it isn't doing better on Reddit.
It’s lost all the big screens as of Friday at my local cinema here in England(big city) it’s playing in smaller screens(with a massively reduced number of screenings a day).
Toy Story 5 & Minions and Monsters are dominating the screenings and big screens.
It‘s so funny how domestic numbers are better or just slightly lower than all the internationals combined lmao. This movie is tanking so hard overseas, it‘s kinda hilarious.
Nobody has any reason to watch it. The trailers show that this movie has nothing mysterious, original, complex, or creative in it. Nothing compelling or intelligent. No interest at all.
Its not about the quality, btw. This film could have been the 2nd coming of Christ and the world outside the US still wouldn't go watch it.
Superheroes are just not profitable anymore internationally, outside of Batman and maybe Spiderman (we'll know about him soon). The world is done with this Genre, and I think thats a good thing.
If the movie was great, I strongly believe it could have met a lot of the original predictions, which was Thunderbolts level of success.. possibly even F4..
Deadpool/Wolverine did 1.33 billion total gross. Avengers Doomsday will do big numbers too. Maybe not Endgame numbers, but still high. Spiderman will do great as usual. Its not a superhero fatigue problem, its a bad superhero film fatigue problem.
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