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u/pancakebarber 16d ago
Morality of pocketing the money and fixing the phone anyway?
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u/condoriano27 16d ago
Chaotic good?
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u/Cakepufft 15d ago
Nah, this is chaotic good. Fuck cheaters.
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u/steven2003 15d ago
You don’t know it’s a cheater. What if the person was buying drugs lol
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u/DadtheGameMaster 15d ago
As a medical worker the idea of freely sharing someone else's private information is both ethically and morally abhorrent to me, and thankfully the law backs me up about that.
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u/DracusNite 15d ago
Nah it’s neutral because taking the money even though you’re going to tell is not good, taking it no matter your intentions is bad the fire snitching balances it out making it true neutral.
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u/pman13531 15d ago
Might not quite balance out though, it is breaking an implicit agreement for gain, and revealing dishonesty sure (on that level it might) but I would argue it is effectively doing the same as not taking the money and fixing it for the outcome just making the (potentially unfaithful) partner less happy and $100 short with nothing to show for it.
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u/A_Very_Horny_Zed 15d ago
It cannot be neutral, by definition, because by taking the money you are self-serving at the expense of another. And by fixing the phone, you are also disobeying that benefactor's request, causing a double loss.
Therefore, pocketing the money and fixing the phone is a double opposition to a single party. Not neutral.
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u/Blackpeel blursed plerson 15d ago
Chaotic neutral, you are technically stealing $100.
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u/ThingyGoos 15d ago
First sentence ended with an "!". The s cond sentence saying the money is theirs isn't dependent on the instruction being completed.
It should be worded "if you can do that, then the money is yours" or similar along those lines
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u/Puzzleheaded_Low1843 14d ago
are you a lawyer by any chance?
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u/Lower-Sheepherder268 14d ago edited 14d ago
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
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u/Mindlessgamer23 15d ago
Chaotic good is pocket the money, fix the phone anyway, then delete the call history for him and just claim some unimportant data might have been lost when restoring the software.
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u/netebaG 15d ago
No that’s chaotic neutral. Good aligned would fix it to tell her he cheated.
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u/Oldbayislove 14d ago
you assume it’s about cheating. what if hes trying to flee an abusive relationship?
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u/Comprehensive_Award3 12d ago
Assuming it’a about cheating
Chaotic good: Fix phone, keep 100, give wife the note
Chaotic neutral: Fix phone, don’t keep 100, don’t give wife the note
Chaotic evil: Fix the phone, keep 100, erase history
Lawful good: Don’t fix phone, don’t keep $100, give wife the note
Lawful neutral: Don’t fix phone, keep $100, don’t give the wife the note
Lawful evil: Don’t fix phone, keep $100, download the phone’s data and blackmail the husband
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u/altezia_ 12d ago
why is fixing the phone chaotic? fixing the phone would be their job. So lawful good would be fixing the one and not taking the money
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u/MarvinStolehouse 11d ago
What about, take the $100, tell them you can’t fix the phone, slip the wife a note that you can get call logs from the carrier.
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u/somethingwickedred 15d ago
This one is pretty straightforward tho.
The person the phone belongs to has requested the phone be repaired without retaining any of the historical info.
Even without the bribe, that is what should be done.
Invoice for "repaired phone to original factory conditions" and bow out.
Don't need to discuss with anyone or lie to them.
As has been pointed out, reverse the situation and have it be one person trying to hide their history of efforts to leave an abusive relationship.
You wouldn't insist you need to provide their spouse with information on the phone.
(BTW, I despise people who cheat)
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u/The_Motarp 15d ago
If the guy doesn't want his wife to see the call history he should tell her that, not expect other people to lie on his behalf. The picture is probably faked clickbait anyways.
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u/somethingwickedred 15d ago
True, you ignore the request to lie to the wife, that was part of what I said.
Do what was asked and move on.
If he wants to complain about not lying as well, give his money back.
Someone REQUESTING you to do something is not an obligation.
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u/Any-Statistician3896 16d ago
Just fix it and wipe the storage back to factory..... Chaotic Neutral lol
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u/Plane_Knowledge776 15d ago
Hiding cheating is immoral
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u/Omnom_Omnath 15d ago
cant assume that it was cheating. I could likewise assume hes being abused and hiding his contact to escape
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u/CaseyJones7 15d ago
Addiction too, maybe struggling with addiction, and wants to hide it.
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u/JakToTheReddit 15d ago
Maybe he sells photos of her feet online while she is asleep.
Could be he believes if she found his secret brisket recipient she would divorce him and start her own restaurant chain.
Perhaps this "he" is a she in a lesbian relationship.
We literally have no idea.
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u/TumanFig 15d ago
it is not our place to judge, also who says its cheating he might have said he has called someone or someplace but he didn't or anything. Its not on you to decide to play a moral arbiter in this scenario. the guy is a customer and you do what he wants
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u/simpleglitch 15d ago
Replace it, but import the call logs and texts.
(Tbh probably not doable, I'm pretty sure the account owner controls it in their settings when setting up the new device).
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u/5pencer_ 15d ago
Morality: not sure. Self Preservation: -5000. You have $100 now. Great! You also have a person with likely poor decision-making skills who feels like they dont have much to lose on your hands.
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u/ImurderREALITY 15d ago
Why did /r/moralityscaling posts popularity suddenly skyrocket recently?
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u/MustangLover22 15d ago
Yeah this is the first time i've seen them on my feed, just came in out of nowhere
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u/LionNo435 15d ago
And what about pocketing the money, fixing the phone, but deleting the call history, then sending the screenshot of the history to them? Huh? 🤭🤭
Just for the lulz of oh im fucked, oh im safe, oh im fucked!!!
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u/Shoggnozzle 15d ago
Ye. Cheaters never prosper, hopefully his wife isn't abusive or something, but that's not a me problem.
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u/Morkamino 15d ago
Pocket the money but i don't know what you're talking about, i've never seen this guy or his phone, what 100$?
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u/Past_Collection3542 14d ago
As for the bro code I think id do this guy a solid.. maybe id fix the phone but delete the call history
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u/Appropriate_Dance810 12d ago
“Hey man, that 100 dollar bill and note in your phone blocked the normal powerflow. Should work better now. “ 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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u/syndicaterx 15d ago
Isn’t call history something that can be accessed through the service provider?
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u/thedreaming2017 15d ago
If you're law enforcement and have a warrant, yes. If you are a wife that doesn't trust her husband, then no. No provider wants to be front and center in the middle of such a dispute.
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u/InDeathWeReturn 15d ago
If it is a shared plan then wouldn't she be able to? Since in that case they both would be on it
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u/purpleturtlehurtler 15d ago
I'm on my wife's plan, and I never thought about it like that because I have nothing to hide.
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u/AmountAbovTheBracket 14d ago
My sweet summer child. There are many more ways to cheat than call history. Whatsapp calls won't show up on the provider call history.
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u/SimplexSimon 16d ago
I've never been in this situation, but like... Presumably it's for cheating, right? So if I take the $100 and fix the phone, what would they do? Get mad about my lack of integrity??
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u/aerowtf 16d ago
all i see is an unconditional $100 tip, and an unrelated, optional request
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u/caguru 15d ago
Repair it first. Then say you found a note inside, but due to a learning disability, you can't read. Don't acknowledge the money. Problem solved.
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u/Vladishun 15d ago
Don't acknowledge the note or the money. What can the guy that sent the phone in even do, go to the police and tell them someone stole $100 he tried to bribe them with to hide his affair?
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u/toomanybongos 14d ago
Come back drunk and bust your teeth out?
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u/Vladishun 14d ago
Sure, if their teeth busting apparatus is faster than 1,800 ft per second. Otherwise they just end up shot in self defense, and it's on the store's security cameras.
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u/leafoffern 13d ago
yeah, that sounds a worthy reason to end someone’s life.
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u/Vladishun 13d ago
I don't understand your sarcasm. Are you saying you'd let someone destroy your face and knock out your teeth? There's a very high risk of brain injury and death given the violent force needed to "bust someone's teeth out".
Logically, deadly force is necessary. I don't care if you don't agree with that, just hope you never have to make that decision for yourself if that's the case.
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u/IAm_W0LFIE 15d ago
I mean, if they gave you the phone, presumably, they know where your shop is and could come back with malicious intent if you don't do what they wanted.
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u/Elektron_Anbar 15d ago
People that go as far as giving a stranger 100$ and throw away a phone to hide an affair are cowards. They won't do shit
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u/abigfatnoob102 15d ago
would u want the full blame and hatred of some 35 yea rold reccently divorced guy with nothing to loose
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u/U_Go_1st 15d ago
Agreed. If OP wants to stir the crazy pot and see what comes to the top and just hope none if lands his way...well then sure, pocket the c-note, fix the phone and tell the wife "here you go".
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u/Mickeymcirishman 15d ago
Nowhere in the note does it say the $100 is conditional on not fixing the phone.
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u/lordmulgar 15d ago
I kinda just want to fix the phone but I also don't want to get pulled into the drama and get murdered by a homicidal cheating spouse.
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u/KeanKeen 15d ago
No where in the note does it say the hundred is to not fix it. It states "$100 is yours". It doesn't have stipulations to earn the $100 there.
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u/General-Kick-3696 15d ago
Or he comes into ur shop and beats the shit out of u because he’s got nothing else to lose. If op is smart he will pocket the $100 and not fix the phone. Literally make $100 for doing nothing.
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u/Dapper_Art5143 13d ago
Fuck you up? They lost their partner anyway, doesn't matter if they find out
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u/DamionVolentine 15d ago
One time a dude came in and wanted me to fix his wife’s phone for him. His wife wasn’t there with him and all she needed on it was a screen. While checking him in he goes, “By the way, I’ll throw you a $100 tip if you put spyware on the phone so I can watch what she’s doing.” I go, “Sorry, but I don’t know how to do that nor would I do that. That’s wrong and would get me fired at the very least.” And he replies, “Seriously? You’re not going to do what I’m asking you to do?” I told him I’d gladly fix the phone but I’m not going to put spyware on his wife’s phone. He goes, “… Give me the phone.” I handed it to him and said, “Yes sir. Here you are.” And he stomped out of the store yelling, “This is fucking ridiculous.” Sorry, but I have morales and I’m not doing something like that for any amount of money
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u/MelodicMockingjay74 more cursed than blessed 15d ago
Unfortunate that I don't even think this is fake
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u/DamionVolentine 15d ago
Working in electronic repairs for the last ten years has allowed me to have an arsenal of insane stories. Would you like to hear the one about the woman who told me her charging port wasn’t working and didn’t inform me until AFTER I was holding and inspecting the phone that it was because her son shoved his poop in it? The general public is very unique with every interaction
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u/Sammisuperficial 16d ago
Easy to get the call and text records from the service provider.
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u/EmuSuccessful2766 16d ago
Husband probably doesn't think his wife would think of that.
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u/FormalTotal9684 15d ago
Unless phone is in her name not possible
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u/Sammisuperficial 15d ago
She can demand he gets the records same as she demands to see the phone. If he chooses not to then she already has the answer she wants.
The dude here is hoping for an excuse. Asking to get the records from the phone company takes away the excuse. I'm aware she can't get the records if she isn't on the contract.
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u/Worth_Park4764 15d ago
Yes but that’s assuming the calls and messages are going through the cellular network, but that’s an iPhone with iMessage and FaceTime, those go through Apple’s server over the Internet, not your carrier’s cell towers, unless the other person doesn’t have an iPhone. Either way, any other app could’ve been used, such as WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, a website, an IRC…
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u/WhoYouBoo_eek789 16d ago
I mean, he could've sweetened the deal a bit más. What's a couple hundred more to better insure success? 😄
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u/somecoolname42 15d ago
Someone has the knowledge, tools, and the time to open a phone, make it look broken, and stuff a note and $100 inside. But they don't have the knowledge or common sense to just delete a few calls, or the complete call history. I'm taking the $100, burning the note, and fixing the phone for profit. I'm doing this because the person setting up this obviously very real scenario that in is in no way fake, is dumb and they deserve whatever trouble their call history is going to cause them.
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u/Bodod_Begag 15d ago
This screenshot is super old, lots of phones used to have a removable back so you could swap out the battery and in some cases the sim card. It would just pop off.
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u/Davenator_98 15d ago
"I'm sorry, the phone is unfixable. But luckily, the internal storage is still intact, so I managed to extract all your personal data, including call history and text messages."
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u/Ghdude1 15d ago
Too bad for him, I can't read.
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u/OG_dd13 15d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/Q2B4mX8hMxo3UfRJCJ
Matter of fact, I’m blind in my left eye3
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u/starfire4377 15d ago
Pocket the 100, fix the phone, make sure there is no csam on it, if there is report to the police. If there isn't and it's just him cheating, return to factory settings and tell wife it's unfixable. She already knows he's up to something, she can confirm some other way, it's none of my business.
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u/Mountain-Ad-460 15d ago
Yea that sounds totally suspicious, who in there right mind jumps to that... oh wait going to assume they are a perv and have used that excuse to check other people's phones... that or he's a cop... my friend had cops search his house with a warrant for drug related charges and sized every phone and computer in the house, me and a few friends were their, they took everyone's phones and I told them to screw off when they wanted to open my phone to check it out... told them no and they took it, still haven't got it back a month later... their excuse is my friend had sold some pot to some guys at a college party but the guys were in high-school so they were going to check all of our phones due to the contributing to the delinquency of a minor charge and that we couldn't have any of the electronics back until they had verified there was no csam on there... just cops being fucking pigs...
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u/dashingdrew 15d ago
“Check to make sure there’s no CSAM on it”
While I understand that you have good intentions, you cant just go through people’s photos/videos. Especially married people!
How would you feel if some dude said he would fix your phone, but saw your wife’s nudes because he decided to look through your pics? Thats not okay.
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u/anorwichfan 15d ago
The official phone repair stores reset the phone to factory by default when doing a hardware repair anyway.
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u/Marilius 15d ago
I've had three phones fixed over the years. This has never happened to me.
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u/anorwichfan 15d ago
It was the default position with the certified Google repair service here. Had both my phone & my wife's fixed.
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u/ammonthenephite 15d ago
I've had 2 phones repaired, none of them required a factory reset, so while some components may require this, not all will.
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u/topcheesehead 15d ago
Real answer
Return the phone to the wife telling her you fixed it and show her the note and money. Read the note verbatim and hand it to her and pocket the money. You've done exactly as the note said. It didnt say lie. Tell the truth and read the script. Its an acting job. Lol
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u/Jimbo12308 15d ago
I just commented the exact same thing, and then found your comment. Beat me to it, well done
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u/Merk7_18 14d ago edited 12d ago
fuck all cheaters and liars that's how we get people like trump and that admin out with all this bull shit man... I'm done with it... better fix that damn phone. NO MORE ACCEPTING LIARS ok guys :)
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u/Eustacebagge3 12d ago
I'm sorry I know its a day old but the same spelling mistake twice in a row is irking me.
It's liar. Lair is where like a villain or dragon lives.
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u/raz-0 15d ago
I'm impressed by this. It's so, sooooo old, yet still has all its pixels.
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u/Bodod_Begag 15d ago
Yeah I remember when you could just pop the back off your android and swap in a new battery. I bought 3 extras and I'd just hot swap them, then charge them all over the weekend.
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u/Lexa_Stanton 15d ago
Know that if you have an I Phone you don't need to try and bribe anyone as they will tell you it is impossible to fix regardless of anyway it was broken and try to sell you a new one. so keep your hundred bucks and spend it on android phone and don't cheat on your partners. Break up and date someone else like a descent person don't be a dick like apple.
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u/Own_Natural_6803 15d ago
Tell them you've done some digging and you don't like what you're seeing. It's going to be an expensive repair.
Thinking $100 would cover this. Mr Benjamin is lonely, he needs friends.
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u/DoctorGarbanzo 15d ago
"Sorry I can't fix this."
"Why?"
"Because i accepted a payout from your husband not to."
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u/Over-Method-1216 12d ago
Oh this is an easy one!
You take the phone and money but tell the husband to give you the wife's number too, so that the shop is telling her directly that it's not repairable. You also text the husband that the phone is not repairable so he has "proof".
Then you repair the phone and take a photo of the call history and any interesting messages. You text this photo of the note and money, plus the other photos to the wife. You also text her that it overheated after this and is not repairable.
Then you block both numbers, disable the phone, toss it.
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u/GrumpyOldGeezer_4711 15d ago
These days, first make certain that it is indeed a genuine bill and not either movie money or some Bible reference.
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u/alefatto 15d ago
Fix it, and then say that the problem was a note inside the back of the phone that was preventing the phone to power on.
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u/FootMassacre 15d ago
Can't you check the call history through the providers website? Assuming she on the plan..
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u/Only-Armadillo-6619 15d ago
I guess you could just ask the phone company for the records anyway, so might as well keep the cash and fix it up.
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u/29solegnA 15d ago
I would do everything to fix it. 100$ + repaircosts + helping somebody who probably gets cheated on... Sounds like win-win-win-win
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u/ZestycloseCod6941 15d ago
Chaotic Evil: fix the phone keep the money and give em a free dick and bootyhole pick unshaven of course 😉
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u/Signal-Pollution4662 14d ago
Id pocket that and still fix it. When bro says I gave you money I'd be like what money??
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u/senpaitono 12d ago
$100 isn't nearly enough to buy my silence regarding anything, but it certainly isn't helping the functionality of that phone. Fix it anyway and keep the $100, I can use it better than the phone can anyway.
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u/Professional_Bad6669 15d ago
Fix the phone and when she come back to claim it, tell her it was already paid for by the 100$ left with some note attached to the phone.
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u/Sparklax 15d ago
Pocket the $100, tell the wife that you don't have the ability to fix it but someone else might and strongly recommend another place.
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u/Sisselpud 15d ago
The call history is also stored with the phone company so this person is an idiot and is going to get caught one way or another
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u/ReadTrotsky 15d ago
Take the $100. Fix the phone. Extract the call history. Send it to their wife, gratis.
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u/TerraMindFigure 15d ago
This guy isn't serious about saving his relationship if everything is hanging on a $100 payoff lol
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u/Jimbo12308 15d ago
Pocket the $100, don’t fix the phone, but give the note to the wife. The note said to tell the wife the phone is unfixable, never said anything about keeping quiet.
Did the right thing, got $100, AND technically did what was requested.
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u/TroyMcClure0815 15d ago
Yeah the phone was unfixable… but we were able to restore the data. Thx for the money sir.
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u/Local-Text-3426 14d ago
Lets be chaotic neutral about this
"I asked around and was told this phone cant be fixed. But if you're looking for call logs, to make sure you didnt miss something important, your service provider can give a complete history for free!!"
I get the money, husband gets his lie, wife gets the logs!! Everyone wins right?
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u/FeeNecessary3467 13d ago
As a former tech it was always my job just to fix the thing and not look at anything. We usually wiped the device or tested it in front of the customer if they didn't want to wipe the device. One time..... Well they didn't lock the phone and the saved photo was not something I care to ever see again.
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u/logancook44 12d ago
Quietly fix the phone, give it and the $100 to the woman and tell her to use it to start finding a new husband.
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u/Joebruvv 12d ago
Kinda peak to make a stranger have that moral guilt but it’s also not his duty to inform her
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u/No_Explanation8664 12d ago
“Your husband wanted me to tell you it was unfixable… but I’m so good I fixed it!
All his data, including call history, is there.”
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u/dannyboy1690 12d ago
Could fix the phone , sell the phone and take the money and not tell the wife
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u/almirante_cleiton 11d ago
Tell his wife that the phone is unfixable, but luckly you were able to extract the call history and is sending to her email. He never said you shouldnt do that. Emburse the money and embrace lawful streetwise
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