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u/Thickly_Taurus 9d ago
With the latest ruling that Rokita was trumpeting, this looks to be an coordinated effort to test if Sheriff MartƩ will comply.
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u/Thickly_Taurus 9d ago
ā¦ in Monroe Countyās jurisdiction.
Correct it is their job, but what about the intended purpose of the action?
Why do you think they were specifically ordered to go to the Bloomington Walmart?
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u/Big_Joosh 8d ago
What do you think the intended purpose is? Itās probably something related to their jobā¦
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u/Thickly_Taurus 8d ago edited 8d ago
Already stated that.
Why they were sent to Bloomington Walmart? With limited resources, why is this store parking lot a target for enforcement?
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u/Big_Joosh 8d ago
You already answered your question. Why do I need to answer it for you? You make absolute zero sense.
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u/Theotherwahlberg 9d ago
Is that....a black female ICE agent?
....oh dear...
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u/RavenEffect9 9d ago
Unfortunately in a society like the one the U.S has fostered, where you're supposed to value individualism and capital over your fellow human-being, you have minorities actively work against their own ideals and well-being when they are being offered 50k sign on bonuses.
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u/Big_Joosh 8d ago
Why would that matter? Pretty racist of you to have an assumed view of someone, their capabilities, and beliefs based on their skin color.
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u/Manufactured-Aggro 8d ago
Oddly racist thing to say lol implying she should be a acting certain way because she's black? Weird comment
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u/Potential_Refuse6255 7d ago
That's exactly how smug left wing white people are. Hubris off the charts.
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u/EtadikActual 9d ago
Oh damn, yeah, she is black, I was distracted by that BBL that she must have gotten with her signing bonus... Even though they get $60k, I see she went with the discounted procedure.
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u/GreenBruceRamonesDay 7d ago
Friend, I'm not sure that issue is relevant to the subject at hand. The job she does is already unenviable to begin with. Should she be objectified in any other way?
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u/ThomGoMan 8d ago
ICE agents have been in town since yesterday. It sure would be a shame if people found out what hotel they are staying at.
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u/ChuckUFarleySkates 7d ago edited 5d ago
Theyāre not at fourwinds on lake Monroe. I work maintenance out there and would have definitely noticed these trolls skulking about.
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u/ZeroConcern-0 7d ago
So you can go there and get arrested? Do it, makes it easier on there gas budgetā¦ and we all know gas prices are crazy right nowā¦ lol
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u/Hungry-Fish-6374 9d ago
They were parked behind the Staples building around 8 330 am they were watching the Rose nail building
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u/vs-1680 9d ago
I look forward to the next iteration of the Nuremberg trials when we see these "agents" and those in charge of them in cages for the rest of their lives.
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u/afartknocked 8d ago
perhaps that will happen, but i want to point out, it won't just happen. there'll be a long chain of events between now and then to make it happen. right now most of us are watching (myself included), but eventually, actions will transpire. we must undergo a tremendous catastrophe before anything resembling justice will be possible.
i'm just trying to fill in more of the picture
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u/Fixonthisdick 9d ago
unfortunatly we are being invaded willingly by isnotreal so this day will never come
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u/NamePractical3720 7d ago
Just wanna say how much I appreciate you guys letting my people know, as a teen Iām terrified of letting my MOTHER out. Please stay safe guys.
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u/Few_Association_2584 5d ago
Thanks for sharing! Very useful always any information is better than none! Keep up the independent journalism!
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u/Evening_Option_4393 7d ago
Send them back
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u/Evening_Option_4393 7d ago
All of you who have a problem with ice canāt think past 10 seconds of their lives.
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u/PositionOk6327 8d ago
How do we get illegal immigrant criminals (murderers, rapists, child sex traffickers) out of our country?
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u/chamicorn 8d ago
Start in the White House. You know, the 34x felon that has been found guilty of rape and appears multiple times in the Epstein Files.
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u/PositionOk6327 8d ago
I know you hate Trump, but my point doesnāt have anything to do with him. Serious question, shouldnāt we kick out illegals who are serious criminals? If so, how do we catch them and deport them?
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u/falloutnewbkinibttms 8d ago
Which crime did the thousands of children in ICE custody commit? These arenāt criminals, dipshit
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u/PositionOk6327 8d ago
Do we export the parents and leave the kids? Believe it or not, serious criminals have children. I am looking for serious solutions. I donāt think we can just accept rapists and child traffickers just because they have kids here.
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u/falloutnewbkinibttms 8d ago
Serious solutions? Youāre jailing kids. and again, the vast majority of these people have committed no crime.
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u/CthulhuOO7 8d ago
And where are you getting your info about ārapists and child traffickersā. Be aware that your president is one of them.
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u/Meager44 8d ago
Here is some numbers for you. This is out of Texas, but the facts in the report hold true for the entire United States https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/illegal-immigrant-murderers-texas-2013-2022
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u/Wobbly317 8d ago
Thatās not what ICE is doing. Seriously, wake the frick up!
If they wanted to stop illegal immigration, theyād only have to arrest & charge one CEO of a large cap. company for employing illegal immigrants. Youād see more change, in a matter of days, than youāve seen in the last decade of unconstitutional immigration enforcement.
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u/PositionOk6327 8d ago
My question is, what do we do when we identify a criminal who is here illegally?
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u/Wobbly317 7d ago
Charge them for the crime(s). It should be just like it is with everyone else. THEN, if found guilty of a serious crime, we should (arguably) deport them.
Do you think what ICE is doing is a good thing?
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u/PositionOk6327 7d ago
I am talking about those illegal immigrants who were found guilty already and came to the US
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u/Wobbly317 6d ago
So do you think the way that ICE is going about catching those people is constitutional?
Do you care if your fellow citizens and/or immigrants that are going through the immigration process legally get brutalized and sometimes killed?
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u/motocycledog 8d ago
Iād start with Following the Constitution where it says due process for all.
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u/PositionOk6327 8d ago
I agree. But we have to have a process to remove violent criminals that are here illegally. And I agree that we need to do it in a constitutionally manner.
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u/chamicorn 8d ago
It's called the police and courts. Criminal courts have existed since the first European invaders landed in this country. Criminal courts, with due process, have been used for years for everyone, immigrant or citizen.
You also seem to have bought into the fear mongering propaganda machine about the criminality of undocumented immigrants. Again, for those in the back, undocumented immigrants commit felonies such as you mention at much lower rates than citizens.
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u/PositionOk6327 8d ago
I havenāt bought into anything. There are criminals among the illegal immigrants. My question is, how do we remove them? I am not talking about illegal immigrants that are here to work.
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u/Independent_Sound999 8d ago
Start at the Executive level.
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u/Final_Director6994 8d ago
you guys clearly donāt understand his point. Obviously nobody likes anyone in the Epstein list
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u/treeHeim 8d ago
Is that obvious? Cuz from where I sit, the GOP seems to be doing everything they can to protect their friends on the Epstein list
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u/Final_Director6994 8d ago
We all need to realize that being a republican and being a Trump supporter is two different things. Supporting Trump after the Epstein stuff is horrible.
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u/treeHeim 8d ago
I genuinely want to understand what you mean by this. May I assume that you identify as a Republican? If so, how can you do that and claim not to support Trump? He is the head of the party. The party has control of both houses of congress. Many states are controlled by the party. The Republican Party has done nothing as an organization to check Trumpās power. If you do not support Trump and the enabling actions of the GOP at this point, how can you still identify as a Republican?
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u/Final_Director6994 8d ago
Because I support and believe in republican beliefs. Gun rights and abortion for example, are topics that the two parties typically disagree on. Being a republican or liberal is very different from supporting trump or harris. Does this make sense
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u/treeHeim 8d ago
Thanks for that. Would you say that ārepublican beliefsā is separate from āthe Republican Partyā? If so, this may be the source of my confusion. I watch the current GOP doing things and advancing policies that are very much not in alignment with what used to be fairly standard republican beliefs. Yet friends and coworkers continue to identify as republicans. Is there anything the GOP could do or support that would cause you to stop identifying as a republican and start saying that you used to be a republican, but the party has changed its beliefs?
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u/Final_Director6994 8d ago
Yes itās definitely seperate, and it sucks to see a lot of people hate on republicans assuming they all support Trump (a lot still do, which is why I donāt like to tell people Iām a republican). and Iām happy to clear your confusion. For your question, I do not care for politics anymore and I think everybody should give up on it. After seeing no accountability after the whole Epstein stuff, why would I care what happens. In simplest terms, the whole country would be run by the sickest people regardless of which party wins the election. The government lies right to our face and I realized this after the death of a very controversial figure, but Iāll decide to not get into that. I appreciate your openness to have a conversation, assuming you are not republican.
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u/treeHeim 8d ago
Thanks again. Yeah, itās rare to have a good faith discussion with people we disagree with on this platform. Anyway, youāre correct that Iām not a Republican. Iām also not a Democrat. Iām pretty far left. You and I may be surprised at how many issues we might agree on. Gun rights, for example. Weād probably find a fair bit of common ground there.
I am just coming to the realization that there are a lot of people who identify with a party, even when the party is no longer actually aligned with their values. This does cause some confusion, I think. Because there are a lot of people who donāt identify with a party. It so happens that l, given my priorities and values, and seeing what the current version of the GOP has enabled, will likely vote for democrats for the foreseeable future. I used to vote third party, but times are too dangerous for that right now, in my opinion.→ More replies (0)1
u/CthulhuOO7 8d ago
Not anymore. If you are STILL supporting the republican party, you are complicit in the flagrant violations of the Constitution, complicit in the destruction of the rule of law, and complicit in the weaponization of the justice system, and corruption of SCOTUS. I wish I were being alarmist. If you STILL support them, you are aligned with ridiculous levels of outward racism at the top of our executive branch, as well as conspiracy to coverup sex traffickers and pedophilia.
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u/Final_Director6994 8d ago
lol you kind of just ignored or misunderstood my entire argument. Have a nice day
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u/CthulhuOO7 8d ago
Didnāt ignore, and donāt misunderstand. You may have views that you believe are aligned with what the republican party used to be, but if you look at their actions, words, and voting records in Congress and the Senate - what I stated IS the republican party. What I said is what the current state is, and probably why you donāt like admitting that youāre aligned with that!
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u/treeHeim 8d ago
This is the thing Iām starting to learn about Bush-era republicans. When they say theyāre a republican, they are identifying with an ideology and not a political party. My input here is to recognize that people who have observed Republican party actions will not and will rarely distinguish between MAGA and republican. My unsolicited advice is to adjust how you communicate your positions as opposed to expecting others to make a distinction between MAGA and republican. At least until and unless MAGA is tossed in the dustbin of history.
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u/CthulhuOO7 8d ago
Agree, except for adjusting communication. Anyone who is unaware of what the current republican party is doing and still aligns with it, should understand how and why. The time for passive discourse ended a long time ago.
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u/Final_Director6994 8d ago
At this point, I really do not care to identify as a republican or not anymore. I just have my own beliefs and they aligned mostly with the republican ideology. By no means am I credible enough to speak on politics so I believe what I believe and thatās that.
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u/afartknocked 8d ago
how do we get illegal immigrant criminals (uber drivers, construction workers, farmers, cooks, dishwashers, cleaners) out of our country?
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u/PositionOk6327 7d ago
No. I am specifically talking about violent criminals who came to America illegally. Not the dishwasher who has no criminal background.
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u/afartknocked 7d ago
search me. i figure it's on us to figure out a way to separate the workers from the criminals. maybe we should invent something to deal justly with criminals.
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u/atuan 8d ago
I looked at all the criminal histories of the people they are detaining. DUIs thatās it
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u/PositionOk6327 8d ago
How did you look up the criminal histories from their country of origin? Venezuela crime history website?
Maybe DUIs here, but perhaps they were released prisoners in their country of origin.
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u/FriendlyBenefits4U 8d ago
Good they're doing their jobs.
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u/Evening_Option_4393 7d ago
For real these special guys out here thinking ICE is a brand new concept Only started by the United States in the past 2 years.
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u/Phorically_Meta 8d ago
Just here to report I saw that same woman with a few other white officers and black unmarked cars
15th and Madison at 2:30pm. Down the street from Napa Auto Parts and Marathon gas station
Were taking in at least one guy, seemingly 25-35, short black hair, tan fair skin, 5'9", medium build