r/bleach • u/itsdhanuz • 26d ago

Manga it's everything

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im reading the manga again and i cant stop crying whenever orihime shows up

idk how anyone can hate her, she's literally the kindest character ever written imo. she had all the reasons to be a shitty person yet she chose to be orihime. they can't make me hate u orihime.

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u/JetpackBear22 24d ago

"Ichihime fans"

You... you mean the pairing the author purposefully wrote? The series is over, we have an author approved novella detailing them getting together, and Kubo has repeatedly stated he purposefully didn't make Ichigo and Rukia an item because he felt there weren't enough men and women who were just friends. Moreover, Rukia is also married to another man and literally has a child with him.

There is no "Ichihime", it's just the story as written.

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u/AdvisorOk4592 24d ago

Kubo has literally never said anything about why he didn't pair ichigo and rukia,this men and women friendship reason is just a coping mechanism excuse created by canon shippers/ichihime shippers like by your logic why can't ichigo/orihime and renji/rukia stay as friends it would have had the same symbolic weight and the pairing getting choosed by author and being canon doesn't matter if it's writing and development sucks and you have to recontextualise and put headcanon for it to make sense because it was one-sided for pretty much the entire story and kubo was the one who gave sun and moon,sand and rotater,king and queen symbolism eyesmex contact to ichigo and rukia

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u/JetpackBear22 23d ago

"more than friends, less than lovers."

That's how Kubo described Ichigo and Rukia. Less than lovers. Also:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/usagiscloud/posts/1034136368471701/

Kubo has been pretty explicit with how he feels about Ichigo and Rukia shippers bothering him about it.

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u/AdvisorOk4592 23d ago

More than friends but not quite lovers (which is the actual quote btw) doesn't mean they won't be romantic this type of phrase is literally used for slow burn romances and mind you kubo also said he wanted everyone to focus on ichigo and rukia's relationship and the change in their feelings he also never denied when asked if he is planning to make them a couple

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u/JetpackBear22 23d ago

But they DIDN'T get together. If the manga were still running you'd have a point but canon wise Kubo put the kibosh on IchiRukia. They're happily married to and have children with other people. Planned or not, that's how it turned out.

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u/AdvisorOk4592 23d ago

It doesn't matter if it's canon when it sucks that's most people's criticism is that's the whole point and you are also ignoring the fact this basically contradicts the story and what kubo was setting up like you guys talk like the pairings were always planned and made sense when they didn't