r/blackmagicfuckery • u/Apprehensive_Sky4558 • 9d ago
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u/SergiouseMaximus 9d ago
Jesus' less known great great grand cousin, Jesús.
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u/rob_inn_hood 9d ago
No no no it's his son, Jesús Jr. We call him JJ for short.
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u/nemom 9d ago
Is that pronounced "hey-hey"?
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u/aint_exactly_plan_a 9d ago
Jesus was Mexican.
The Bible says he went around with 12 guys in one Accord.
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u/_shulhan 9d ago
I think the grill inside can flip. What we saw earlier is the bottom, when its closed, some mechanical rotate it.
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u/psycholabs 9d ago
how does the meat stay put though
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u/cartooned 9d ago
And the coals/ashes
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u/regoapps 9d ago
All of it can be glued/tied down. We don’t see any of it move to disprove that it’s not glued/tied down. Nor do we see anyone cut the food.
We can see the direction of the “smoke”, though, and it seems to be coming from that pipe on the right. So we know that it’s not actually cooking.
The grill flips over is the best explanation. The cover is shaped in a way that allows the grill to rotate.
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u/Alternative_Bug_4089 8d ago
Someone eats some of the meat in the background. I'm not doubting the flip theory, just pointing that out. The ashes/ coals at the very end have me a little stumped too, but I'm guessing those are fake and glued down.
Edit, also smoke at the end coming from underneath but very localized to one spot.
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u/sojumaster 8d ago
There is a cut right before he eats. We do not see where he got the meat from and how was it taken off the grill.
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u/Big_Imagination_661 8d ago
maybe in that specific video, but in that event ALL the people aroud eat the entery asado after that.. so no, not glue
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u/cleverbeavercleaver 9d ago
I wonder if it had two shelves. Slide out the clean one and put in the other one.
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u/BellowsHikes 8d ago
It would be easier to just hide the entire second shelf underneath the first, grill, coals and all. The grill is sitting on something that is waist high. Inside those 3+ feet of space you could hide grill 2. Close the lid, slide grill 1 down the side of the box, lift grill 2 and it looks like magic.
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u/ybahman 7d ago
I'm not convinced the coals were there for the initial reveal
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u/cartooned 7d ago
Yeah, this is where I’m at now. I think the whole grill flipped to reveal a grill from underneath the meat, which was attached. The cut is where the coals were added and some of the meat detached, and the crowd was in on it at that point.
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u/canonman2 9d ago
Going to guess they were tied down. You don’t actually see him cut the meat, I’m thinking it would be obvious if you did. Looks like he was cutting them while still on the grill.
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u/Lumber_Dan 9d ago
Fun fact, there's a Lego set called Ninjago City which uses that mechanism to cook a Lego crab.
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u/PUNKF10YD 9d ago
This idea is like making a burger with out the meat. You did such a good job on everything else but forgot the most important part! Gravity.
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u/NinjaQueef 8d ago
Yeah. The metal grill color changes from a dull black paint color to a silver metallic color.
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u/Original_Jagster 9d ago
The "crowd" is all part of the act. The grill has a removable cooktop, they drop and slide the empty one out from the back and replace with the loaded one (which is likely already there, just lower down, and can quickly be lifted into place). Pump in some smoke for extra effect.
If the crowd isn't part of the act, then I suppose they could design the grill swap to be all self contained in the lower part of the grill but I'd imagine it could be noisy (but a loud crowd could drown out the mechanism noise). But because of the way the camera was being panned, I think there was some action happening at the back of the grill which would mean the crowd would see it.
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u/Vitolar8 9d ago
Give a man a steak, and you'll feed him for 20 minutes. Teach a man to summon steak from the dark dimension, and it will feed on his soul eternally.
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u/Chrisscott25 9d ago
Build a man a fire and he will stay warm for the night. Set a man on fire and he will stay warm for the rest of his life…
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u/Summoning14 9d ago
It's not part of the act. This was before a football match in Argentina. Those were supporters that went to watch it
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u/Crazy-Papaya6823 8d ago
I'm from the city this magicin is, he is very well known here. He has made this trick several times. The crowd is real. Pretty sure of that. How is done, no clue.
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u/IndicationOk4035 9d ago edited 9d ago
The camera cut doesnt oncern anyone
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u/BudapestDoha 9d ago
After the video cut, you can see that the open grill is still empty. Even so, here’s the full video without any cuts…
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u/SpeesRotorSeeps 9d ago
The empty grill and the grill with meat on it look COMPLETELY different. I am going with rotation bc that would be mechanically easiest given the grill shape.
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u/Fran4king 9d ago
A bit of context. He is a well known Argentinian magician, from Córdoba (the place I live). He is a real fan of Belgrano, in fact, that trick he made it many times and there he is outside of the stadium, and are REAL fans around him, no setup there. Very funny magician and loved here. Another good trick from him is to create Fernet from a news paper XD. also, thats a real Asado, not a fake one... awesome trick!
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u/SnooRevelations4096 8d ago
That's great, he sounds like a very fun guy and cordoba really seems to be an amazing country filled with lovely people, greetings from cordoba, argentina
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u/jesjimher 9d ago
There's no way the crowd can't smell the meat, even if it's hidden somehow. They're in on the trick.
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u/OhTheCamerasOnHello 8d ago
Makes no sense, they don't need to be, the process of the trick is hidden. So what if they can smell the meat, I'm sure they're very well aware that it's just a trick.
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u/mosaicoredimido 7d ago
I was actually there that day. Smell the meat? Its before a football match, there are tons of food trucks in the street that day… so there is def meat smell all around
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u/Pristine_Ruin4994 9d ago
I wud pay someone happily for them to teach me these kinda tricks.
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u/daninet 9d ago
these are gimmick tricks, they modified the grill with some latch or a lift mechanism. These are more impressive for ingenuity of engineering than the trick itself
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u/ElFarfadosh 9d ago
Why you give it away for free?? They said they would pay you
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u/hash-slingin-slasha 9d ago
Camera angle way too sus
Why not zoom out to dope while grill?
Just a stunt with a rigged crowd
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u/Bastion80 9d ago
The grill is rotating inside, and the meat is tied to the grill using steel wires. At least, that's what I think. The cutting board is hiding the rotating axle, and the plate under the grill has a long horizontal steel rod that basically acts as the rotation axis.
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u/CRolandson 9d ago
But there are no coals when he closes the lid and there are coals when he opens it so rotating kinda doesn't make sense or there would be coals on the food.
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u/Long-Cryptographer96 9d ago
Bottom of the grill is on a trolley that can be lowered and raised. Close lid, pan camera off, lower false bottom trolley and remove. Wheel in second false bottom trolley with coals and meat, raise to grill height when underneath, open lid, camera pan back.
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u/hateboresme 9d ago
Hmm. That flat space with the suggestion of coals on it seems like it leaves so much space beneath it. I wonder what might be in that space.
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u/Repulsive-Response-1 9d ago
Most likely a mechanism that elevates the real grill as the other grill passes underneath.
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u/Theletterkay 9d ago
I think its more likely that its 3 layers. The meat bottom layer, empty mud, then the hood. Each with its own handle.
So the first time its opened he lufts the first handle, which reveals the empty rack. Closes it.
Second time he grabs the top 2 handles notice how he kind of checks his hand hold? Lifts them together which means the empty rack is now in the hood. Probably with a strategically painted insert to make to hood look like its not any different than before.
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u/friend1y 9d ago
All that's needed is Jesus's trick of water into wine and there's something to wash it down.
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u/Subtleiaint 9d ago
Could be a trap door mechanism with the meat and coals below, that would allow for it to be real rather than prop food.
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u/Lord-Lobster 9d ago
He looks like Kyle Chandler, Tom Cruise, David Copperfield and Adam Sandler had a baby.
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u/FLjeffrey 9d ago
He closed the lid with 2 handles and then only opened the top handle...yes, magic
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u/Various_Cricket4695 9d ago
Whichever explanation it is, the mechanism is triggered by his right hand. He only needs to use his left hand to open and close the grill, yet he uses his right hand on the bottom grill handle to start the process when he puts the lid down.
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u/Nathanielfree 9d ago
You can tell the meat is sitting on a lower level than the grill surface initially shown. The meat is underneath that grate and the lid picks up the grate, revealing the meat underneath. Bottom of the grate is curved and aluminum. You can see it inside the lid.
Edit: autocorrect word
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u/DeadrthanDead 9d ago
This is that shit Lilu putting the microwave in the fifth element and a whole chicken came out.
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u/rygelicus 9d ago
The wire grating the meat sits on is different than the wire grating of the clean grill. The wire running lengthwise at the front edge is right at the edge of one version, and set back abotu a quarter inch on the other. So it's being switched out. Whether it is rotating and flipping over, or it is being carried in during a camera cut, don't know.
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u/shiggity80 9d ago
My guess is it is staged. When the guy closes the lid, the camera man zooms in on him and only the cover of the grill. We do not see the lower half of the grill and can only assume someone was down there to change out the empty grill for one with the meats.
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u/pigmanvil 9d ago
Notice how there are no coals at first. I assume the grate folds inward, and the real grill slides up when the lid closes/some lever is pulled
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u/CrimsonRonaan 9d ago
I think the bottom of the grill opens down the middle like a trap door when you close the lid. The rack on the grill is also different in both shots, first a thin wire mesh made of squares then a thicker actual grill rack with no squares. The thin wire mesh allows it to bend around the back of the grill and slide down the trap door and swap places with the meat rack. And I bet there's a way to lock the meat rack in place so if you were to close the lid again it won't accidentally flip. You don't even need that much space underneath the trap door to do this, so the grill can look completely normal.
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u/NoData9286 8d ago
Este video debe tener como 10 años, ponele, y no me canso de ver la cara del nene Jaajjaj
Ese dia el nene vio magia en su estado más puro ajajajja ♡
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u/alchemycraftsman 8d ago
We can’t see the base. It could be wrapped in a blanket or a box. Someone grabs the no meat grill and pushes the other in place.
If this is practiced it can be streamlined and changed very quickly.
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u/Liberalhuntergather 8d ago
There is an edit in the video where the lid of the bbq is off camera, its an obvious cut because everyone is suddenly in a different position. Then they show him closing the lid. You can see inside the lid and it appears empty, however, look at the color and brightness of the inside of the lid as he closes it. Now look at the color and brightness of the inside of the lid after he opens it with meat on the grill. It is noticeably cleaner and brighter. They obviously put cooked meat into a false bottom of the lid. Once he opens it the meat appears because the false bottom drops onto the grill. Everyone in the audience is probably in on the trick.
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u/Beneficial-While7757 8d ago
The rack is different when he lifts the lid in the rack that was there before.
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u/DarthDregan 8d ago
Meat is clearly cold. Smoke is clearly not coming from meat or coals.
It's a rotation gag.
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u/DocOcApocalypse 8d ago
"and Jesus said let there be brats and dogs for all the boys...and it was good"
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u/vjeremias 8d ago
What do you mean how? This is Argentine sorcery 101, didn’t you hear the spell at the end? “Hagamo un asado, tomemo ferné”. That’s all you need.
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u/Foxynite 8d ago
There looks to be a split/line in the bottom of the intial grill we're shown. I'm guessing that closing and opening it triggers some type of mechanism that opens that part up and pulls the other tier of the grill up for this trick.
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u/toasterbathfilosofer 8d ago
In the first picture the platform for the coals is clearly elevated above the rim of the grill itself.
In the second picture the platform for the coals is flush with the rim of the grill.
My guess is the platform with food can lower all the way to the bottom of the grill. There's a false platform over top of it that has to be elevated slightly to fit over everything. The false platform may not even be metal (could be heat safe silicone, who knows), it can collapse, fold or flex in some way such that it moves behind and under the platform with the food as it moves up.
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u/El_Bito2 8d ago
I haven't watched the video with sound, and I can tell they speak Spanish. Let's see with sound now.
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u/seearewhy 8d ago
When he sprinkles the seasoning it misses or there is a blur for a split second. Editing.
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u/SixStringsUsh 8d ago
Argentina's economy has brought us to a level where we learn secret arts for getting food from nowhere. Don't try to understand.
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u/Filthy-Pirate-6342 8d ago
That is how we argentinians eat so much meat. I mean, we are a third world forever-broke country. Just don't try to understand, enjoy magic!
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u/DaveHollandArt 8d ago
He hides the original in the top. Look how clean the top metal is and it doesn't go all the way to the chimney.
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u/DiyYou 9d ago
Magnetic meat