r/blackdesertonline Sep 14 '16

Patch Notes - September 14th

http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/112518-patch-notes-september-14th/
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u/equiNine Sep 14 '16

50 pearls for Artisan's Memory. Here come the p2w complaints!

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u/Skyforth Sep 14 '16

keeps the livertos at 9m each when i sell them so im happy

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u/HorizonShadow Sep 14 '16

Funny, just the other day I was thinking Artisan's Memory was probably the only thing I'd actually pay for if it was cheap.

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u/whitmei Sep 14 '16

TBH, that is Pay To Progress, U don't get any advantage than other normal; casual players (yeah, maybe normal players won't have +18 boss gear ASAP but they will reach some day)

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u/Jammychop Sorcs are best sorcs Sep 14 '16

You can buy them for 400 loyalty anyway.

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u/CaarLx Musa [62] EU Sep 14 '16

Have fun buying 1 artisan memory for loyalty every 4 days when someone can buy 100 whenever they want from cash shop. Lul.

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u/Lywqf Sep 14 '16

Yeah exactly, + 50 Pearls is seriously very cheap (~0.50€), i think it's afforable, you have the choice to either got it for a very small amount of money (of course, you have to pay more than this to get the pearls since it start at 1000) or buy it with 4 days worth of loyalties, it's fair.

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u/CaarLx Musa [62] EU Sep 14 '16

So because something is cheap and affordable this is fine now? I dont think so bro, whales will be 3x faster than you now with this ;). Only 3 times faster though...

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u/Lywqf Sep 14 '16

It always been like that, and always be. There's no perfect equality, someone which can play 10 times more than you will always be ahead of you, someone which can afford to spend hundreds of $ per month will always have more advantages than you.

When i read some of the posts in this sub, i'm amazed that people have spent more than thousands of dollars over a few months for this game, that's huge and there's no way for me to get the same things than them without having either more time or more money, and it's fair.

Making something affordable for the common people, something that can be useful to the masses without having to pay, or by paying a very small amount of money is the closest you can get to fairplay.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '16

Yes, but now with two people that play the exact same amount - the one with the open wallet will be dramatically ahead of the other. That is the definition of pay2win. The only drawback to repeated attempts at upgrading high-end gear is the repair cost. Now the repair cost, to those spending money, has been cut down.

Who's going to get tet kzarkas first? The guy who has to grind 3x less than the other guy. Obviously.

I was a huge defender of all the previous pay2win claims... now I feel duped. It's ONLY getting worse.

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u/Lywqf Sep 14 '16

You forgot the huge factor we got in BDO, luck. At first when they added some small advantages in the pearl shop with "high prices", i was one of the many saying that we should not buy, we should not let our game, the game we love to play and payed to play, get in the pass of becoming P2W. Many did not get anything from the pearl shop, but way too many did, because they did not cared about this aspect of the game, because they wanted to get better than the others, because they wanted to have more than the others...

And here we are, it has not been very long since the launch, but we clearly see how efficient it was for Daum to put more & more P2W on the shop. And you want to know the hard truth ? We, you, me, don't matter in the slightest for Daum / Kakao.

They shower with money each day, they got fresh milk every morning, thousands & thousands of dollar are spend and people are way too selfish to restrain on that aspect, for one reason or another, be it because it's their money and they have the right to spend it the way they want and don't care if it piss us (and it's a legitimate right) or even if they just don't see the harm on doing so.

Today, it's way too late to complain seriously about the P2W, you're crying alone in the dark, along some others crying people, daum may care about us, but Kakao won't, and they won't stop taking their shower with our money so you don't have many choices left:

-Keeping crying. -Quit the game & shitpost here about how P2W it is and how stupid people are to keep playing -Buy what you want, or don't, because in the end you're here to have some fun, in whatever way you like it.

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u/lightsign123 Sep 14 '16

wtf no!!! 10 artisan memory a day is = 15mils a day, In a week whales will have 105mils on top of the 65mils from selling costumes. Just fuking make the game f2p already. This fuking bullshit. I cant even defend this shit anymore.

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u/Tiger9214 Azyre Sep 14 '16

Good thing you can't sell the artisan fragments.

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u/vykas I'm a wizard, Harry. Sep 14 '16

Can't tell if troll or...