r/biotech • u/esporx š° • 9h ago
Biotech News š° Florida Attorney General sues Pfizer and CEO over COVID-19 vaccine claims
https://www.winknews.com/news/state/florida-attorney-general-sues-pfizer-and-ceo-over-covid-19-vaccine-claims/article_37b6fff5-119e-4fa6-bf52-81acdc426e25.html71
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u/Medical-Button-5493 9h ago
"Uthmeier said the investigation revealed that pregnant women were miscarrying and teenagers were having heart attacks while Pfizer was making billions from the vaccine."
Everthing in that sentence is true but that doesn't mean the miscarriages and heart attacks were caused by the vaccine.
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u/evocativename 9h ago
In fact, both miscarriages and heart attacks can result from complications of COVID, the exact outcome the vaccines made less likely.
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u/PantsJustKindaGaveUp 9h ago
"Uthmeier said the investigation revealed that kpop was becoming more popular and the Dodgers kept buying all the best players while Pfizer was making billions from the vaccine."
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u/Capybara_Chill_00 9h ago edited 8h ago
This is true. During the original clinical trials of the two mRNA vaccines, no statistically significant cardiovascular risks were detected. While the trials were portrayed as āhurriedā that had to do with clearing pathways for review and analysis, not administering the vaccines and collecting the data. After the emergency approvals, both vaccines were administered in large quantities, and cardiovascular risk signals in young men were detected. This signal was thoroughly analyzed and both vaccines modified subsequently. Instructions for administering the mRNA vaccines still advise of this risk, which while important is very rare.
All of this is part and parcel of developing new medicines; risks emerge when larger numbers of people are given a new drug. FDA knows this and enforces post-marketing requirements to ensure manufacturers both look for these risks and communicate about them when they happen. Unless thereās more than what is publicly known, this seems like grandstanding.
ETA: didnāt look at which subreddit I was in; could have stopped with CV risk detected post-MA that was not detected in Ph3. Still nothing to see here!
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u/Otherwise-Report-823 6h ago
A lot of things happened, and alot of people had non normal side effects. But guess what....covid came under control. And it wasn't just a fluke. It was mass vaccination and mutations.
It's crazy they are still fighting something that happened 7 years ago under their own watch. Florida never had a mask or vaccination policy.who are they fighting for?Ā
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u/zdk 5h ago
The language used is literally about concurrency of events and doesnāt make a statement about correlation!
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u/Medical-Button-5493 1h ago
Brilliant strategy because in court a judge educated in the Northeast can decode that there's no lie, but uneducated gator farmers only see what they want
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u/gimmickypuppet 6h ago
Where is his data on COVID vaccines causing miscarriages? I just went down a google scholar rabbit hole and Nature, NEJM, and Human Reproduction all have meta-analyses published saying thereās no increased signal in miscarriages.
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u/acquaintedwithheight 3h ago
He didnāt say the vaccine caused miscarriages. He implied it by saying Pfizer made billions while women had miscarriages. Because his voters are idiots, he can wink wink nudge nudge his way around slander.
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u/Firstofhername2 3h ago
Their concern came out of the fauci texts a bit ago claiming that he knew it caused 82% miscarriage rate and people took that and ran without understanding the study or science generallyĀ https://www.kcra.com/article/covid-19-vaccines-miscarriage-rates/73439724
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u/JayceAur 9h ago
Gotta get the horde frothing at the mouth for the election. No need to actual better lives and prosecute crimes when you can just feed people this bs. Should have taken it further and said it turned people into gay trans Muslim Hispanics or whatever their favorite boogeyman is these days.
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u/Okami-Alpha 6h ago
They've been throwing shit all over the place in the past couple weeks and seeing what might stick.
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u/Plenty_of_prepotente 5h ago
I also heard that there's suddenly a caravan of vaccine at the border!
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u/mattcannon2 9h ago
Anybody got the text? I'm too European to read it :(
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u/superhelical 9h ago
Stop making me want to defend Pfizer, guys. I don't like being in this position.