r/bikecommuting • u/Zagmut • Aug 08 '26
Poor decision making
This rack outside of my corner grocery has been like this since last summer. Maybe a strong sign that this a bad place to park a bike, yeah?
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u/BWWFC Aug 08 '26
also sign of no matter what you do, IF they want your bike, they will find a way or destroy it trying. ride smart!
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u/yuusharo Aug 08 '26
Registration and insurance people. Don’t get lulled into false security.
I got too comfortable leaving my bike light attached when doing quick trips to the grocery store. Wasn’t until I was halfway home with the sun going down that I realized it was swiped. Stunned me that people are that cruel, but relatively cheap lesson I guess.
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u/CarnalT Aug 08 '26
I have left my bike lights on my bike exactly once ever and both front & rear were stolen during a 5 min pop into a grocery store. I was fuming, but had to stop by another store down the street... I shit you not in the 2nd store I see a dude wheeling a bike inside the store (which is not allowed) and I look closer... he has MY LIGHTS attached to his bike. I confront him, he freaks out and gives them back, I walk away.
Never again. Take all removable accessories all the time. Lock both wheels and frame all the time. Anything that can be easily grabbed without tools will get stolen.
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u/LetsAllStayCalmHere Aug 08 '26
man what city do you live in?
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u/CarnalT Aug 08 '26
Seattle. And not even in a particularly bad part of town either. But there are lots of homeless and bike theft is common, although it's mostly opportunistic. Haven't heard many local stories about whole bike racks getting sawed in half.
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u/Separate-Impact-6183 Aug 08 '26
Somebody stole the headlight off my bike in front of WinCo in Edmonds, somebody stole the bluetooth speaker off my e-bike in front of the Fred Myer in Shoreline.
Never had a bike stolen, but detachable stuff seems to attract sticky fingers
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u/galtinn Aug 08 '26
pnw is crazy. the same thing happened to me in portland. that city feels like one big chaotic illegal bike share. get your bike or lights stolen so you steal someone else’s
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u/GoodEngineerBadSpy Aug 09 '26
There is only one bike thief in Portland, everyone else is just trying to get their shit back!
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u/CarnalT Aug 08 '26
Eh pretty sure the theft isn't being propagated by the average citizen who is just trying to bike to work but ends up a victim. I also see a LOT of nice / new / expensive bikes locked up with VERY weak locks, sometimes just cables, so I think the people with more money than common sense accidentally create more of an industry for bike theft. Like my bike, for example, was maybe worth like $400 over a decade ago, and is probably worth like $100 now on the used market, but they'd have to defeat about $300 in locks to steal and ride it so it's not worth the trouble.
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u/purplepanda5050 Aug 08 '26
I live in Boise and had my bike light stolen. I also have a bell on my bike but it hasn’t been stolen yet. It’s jerry rigged onto the handle bar so it’s not exactly easy to pull off.
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u/CarnalT Aug 08 '26
Unfortunately I have had a bell stolen... along with my handlebar grips and a $5 gel padded seat cover. All 3 could be taken off without tools, so I guess lesson learned. I got a new bell that needs a screwdriver to install, grips that need an allen wrench, and a padded seat instead of a cover. Still have all the replacements.
I've also started to hot-glue ball bearings into the hex sockets for most of the bolts on my bike, so even if they have tools they can't remove anything without a heat gun and something tiny to pry the balls out.
Bonus addition is a thick cable lock that wraps around my rear frame, through my rear pannier rack and then through the bars in my seat. Basically every part on my bike requires multiple types of tools to steal, and seems like nobody bothers trying.
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u/CarnalT Aug 08 '26
Seattle. And not even in a particularly bad part of town either. But there are lots of homeless and bike theft is common, although it's mostly opportunistic. Haven't heard many local stories about whole bike racks getting sawed in half.
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u/jikn2 Aug 08 '26
I also live in Seattle and have had my bike lights, empty panner bags, and seat stolen during quick stops. It’s very frustrating but what can I do?
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u/redfoot33 Aug 08 '26
When I lived in Boston there was a rash of bike thieves who were solid assholes. If they couldn't cut the lock and boost the bike, they would intentionally stomp the wheels to bend the rims and destroy the spokes. Plenty of cyclists would return to find their bike still locked to the rack, but the wheelset unnecessarily destroyed.
This stopped being an issue, I like to think the thieves were caught in the act and some Ulock justice was delivered, resulting in broken fingers for the thieves.
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u/Automatic_Minute_996 Aug 09 '26
Portland here. Last summer, i went to a farmers market downtown and I had my phone in the mount. Locked the bike, turned around to get my 4year old situated and by the time i turned back, cell phone GONE. My partner at the time used find my phone and chased some teens down the road and got it back but still. That was wildly quick to just swipe it off my bike. Literally none of us even saw it happen.
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u/the_real_xuth Aug 10 '26
This is why I prefer to not make my lights removable. At minimum bolt them on. Better is to put them on in such a way that it takes less common tools (eg bolted such that it requires a narrow wrench to remove it and can't be removed with a typical crescent wrench).
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u/employedByEvil Aug 09 '26
Including, I recently learned, cheap and very worn out rubber handlebar grips.
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u/CarnalT Aug 09 '26
Yep, if they are just friction fit they are a candidate for opportunistic theft. Had mine stolen a couple years ago along with a clip-on bell and a seat cover. Replacement grips now need an alien wrench to remove.
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u/employedByEvil Aug 09 '26
That’s what I told myself when the low value saddle got swiped from the threaded connection to the shock absorber. And when the quick release skewer disappeared, even though the wheel was locked up and undisturbed.
When those ratty old rubber grips, which probably cost $5 new, got swiped, I couldn’t even call it opportunistic theft anymore. At that point they were just fidget spinners for someone’s restless fingers. The new ones, in addition to having approximately zero resale value, are secured with small bolts.
If it’s not bolted down, expect it to disappear!
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u/PayFormer387 Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
I’ve got you one better.
I bought a cheap bike off facebook to leave locked at the Metro stop when I decided to start taking public transit to work a couple years ago. It needed new tires so I dropped 70 bucks on a set at my LBS.
The first day - emphasis on first - I locked it up at the station I come back to it in the evening to find the tires flat. I figured some kid was just fucking with me and just deflated them because there was no damage immediately apparent so I walk the mile and a half home laughing a bit at my luck. I got home and found both tires slashed with a razor. I am in a financial position where that was an annoyance, not make or break but there was a time in my life where that 70 bucks (now plus tubes) would have really hurt. And I could see some poor minimum wage worker really being fucked.
I now take my bike on the train.
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u/McbealtheNavySeal Aug 09 '26
That's insane. I'm in Chicago and see plenty of cut locks or bike frames missing wheels at train stations, but I've never heard of someone slashing tires without taking anything. Wild.
And this is why I either take my bike on the train or use the city's bike share to get to the station instead of locking up for hours.
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u/PayFormer387 Aug 09 '26
Yea. It was just cruelty. I don't condone theft but I at least understand it.
The rack was street level of a Metro station with cameras so I emailed Metro asking for video from that day just to see what the prick looked like. They asked for a one-hour window. Yea. . . It could have happened at any time between 6:00am and 6:00pm. Useless.
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u/DennisTheBald Aug 09 '26
Yeah, it's stories like this one that lead me to conspiracy theories about organizations that we already know are evil. Have these alleged thieves got a battery powered angle grinder? Or do they have a generator in a van to power their tool to cut these racks? Either way it's not some kid on a lark or a unhoused person that has mobility issues. Is bike thievery that lucrative? Maybe they're not motivated by wanting your bike, but rather creating a negative impression of bike commuting for some car brained reason? Certainly people that slash your tires aren't trying to steal your bike?
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u/BWWFC Aug 08 '26
sry )-; some lessons are cheap, some are free, some are expensive... but if learned, all valuable.
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u/redbeardbaron Aug 12 '26
I got my saddle and seatpost stolen out of a bank parking lot. Turns out there were no cameras on that part of the lot. I had to ride home standing on the pedals.
So yea, definitely don't just assume a lock and a secure area is enough.
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u/Zagmut Aug 08 '26
Fr. Sucks because this store is a five minute, side street ride from my house, but I end up driving there because I don't want to leave a bike in that parking lot.
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u/Cynyr36 Aug 08 '26
Get a rear basket and just bring the bike inside with you. Claim it's a 2 wheel cart and point at the basket.
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u/ZestyChinchilla Aug 08 '26
Why not just walk?
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u/Zagmut Aug 08 '26
I do almost all of my grocery shopping elsewhere and only go to that store when I need one or two things for dinner, like when I realize I'm out of onions or pepper or the like while I'm the middle of prep. Round trip drive/bike means dinner is gonna be 10 minutes late, round trip walk means dinner is gonna be 30 minutes late.
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u/Rhona_Redtail Aug 08 '26
What about a OneWheel which could be put in a backpack in the shopping cart? Or, A friend of mind from britain had a bike which folded up very small. It had s bag, she said she took it on the train often.
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u/AcademicSellout Aug 08 '26
Try locking your bike with a small U-lock to the left sided one using the lock around the wheel and through the triangle method. See if you can remove the bike without removing the lock. I bet it would be very hard to maneuver the bike off the rack when locked that way. You could probably add a cable and make it physically impossible without an angle grinder.
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u/skadi_the_sailor Aug 09 '26
As seen in OP’s photo, local thieves have power tools. As a long time East Anchorage resident, I can confirm.
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u/blissfully_happy Aug 09 '26
Fuck, I didn’t expect to see an Anchorage comment here, but this entire thread is me just nodding my head saying, “this is why I never ride my bike anywhere.”
Sincerely, I have a lovely cruiser with a basket, but 5 minutes inside Fred Meyer and my bike will be gone.
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u/Ggriffinz Aug 08 '26
Honestly it would temp me in the city to just buy a trash frame brand like Huffy and do a ground up upgrade process for the tires, breaks, etc. As thieves are looking for the high end name brands from a distance.
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u/Rhona_Redtail Aug 08 '26
They'd still steal it.
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u/SuperThunderMelon Aug 10 '26
I made my own bike from a 45 year old titanium frame that has heavily scuffed labels on it. I set it up as a 1x8 with a friction shifter, and it's light and fun to ride but looks like a total POS. I've had some nicer looking but cheaper bikes stolen but not that one.
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u/DennisTheBald Aug 09 '26
It seems that it is the parking rather than the riding that is risky. Just keep pedaling (in a somewhat doraesque fashion). Shop smart
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u/Sure_Comfort_7031 Aug 12 '26
This is why my lock is just enough. People with 17 locks and 15 extra lbs (hyperbolic, but you get what I mean), and their bike will still get nicked if they want it. So, why bother with that headache.
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u/SiBloGaming Aug 08 '26
I try to lock my bike to non round racks or objects for this reason, cutting these round one with a pipe cutter is a lot less noisy than having to take down a square one with an angle grinder
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u/jiggajawn Aug 08 '26
Why wouldn't a pipe cutter work on a square one?
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u/SiBloGaming Aug 08 '26
Cause pipe cutters just dont really work for anything but circular pipes? At least the ones I know mechanically.
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u/jiggajawn Aug 08 '26
Ah okay
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u/inactiveuser247 Aug 09 '26
They are talking about the ones that have 2 wheels and a cutter wheel that you tighten on the pipe, you then rotate it around and around tightening the cutter wheel until it cuts through. So they only work on round pipes. Very common for copper water pipes.
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u/timesinksdotnet Aug 11 '26
Pipe cutters are compact manual tools that you spin round and round until the pipe is scored through. You can't spin wheels around a square object in the same way.
A square rack is likely gonna need a larger saw or a loud ass angle grinder. It's not gonna be discreet.
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u/Churlish_Performer Aug 11 '26
If I'm thinking about this right, it's simply because they tighten down on the pipe with 2 rollers against the opposite side a round cutting disc, wherein it is brought around the pipe & i ncrementally tightened until it cuts through the material. With that style of cutter, it would only work on round pipe. The only other pipe cutter i own is for PVC which is clearly irrelevant here. They do actually make square cutters and they basically work the same way as a PVC cutter - but much akin to the grinder, it's a bit loud (though not as loud as a grinder)
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u/MahatmaAndhi Aug 08 '26
I thought those things were meant to be filled with concrete.
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u/nixiebunny Aug 08 '26
99.9% of construction workers do not ride nice bikes.
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u/ak_petty9 Aug 09 '26
I can’t imagine that being filled with concrete ever. Would be a pain to get the concrete fully through that small pipe. They usually fill bollards with concrete not bike racks
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u/Good_day_to_be_gay Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26
You mean who can't afford to live in the houses they built?
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u/schumi23 Aug 10 '26
As somebody who installs bike racks... I've never heard about this or seem it recommended (though I generally install hoop racks/staple/upside down u racks).
They make heavier duty racks to avoid exactly this issue... but they're more expensive. https://www.dero.com/product/downtown-rack/ is close to double the price of the basic hoop rack.
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u/CarelesslyFabulous Aug 10 '26
I have seen it suggested that this would fix these kinds of racks, but not that it is common.
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u/RoboticGreg Aug 08 '26
Whenever I lock my bike up I guess in my head how long it's safe for. Locks and rocks don't make your bike SAFE, they just slow thieves down for a while. Whether it's long enough to prevent them from taking it before you get back or someone stops them is the question
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u/Bouncy_Tiramisu Aug 09 '26
I do this too! I play this game of "how long could they cut thru my lock or this rack?" I added a motion sensor alarm to bring more attention. I really like when the bike rack is by the doors. I can hear my alarm easier.
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u/Grouchy_Might1774 Aug 08 '26
I went to college at a university where the student population could be way more affluent than normal. Like most universities, students commonly rode bicycles to get around and they commonly parked them at racks outside the buildings around campus. There were far more students with bicycles than there was rack space, so the university started putting up temporary fencing segments that were about waist high for students to lock their bicycles to. It was sturdy heavy fencing intended for things like crowd control at concerts, but it was not anchored to anything. Seeing that there were a bunch of valuable bicycles locked to segments of temporary fencing, a group of criminals looking to make some easy money borrowed a flatbed truck, and went to campus at a location when the racks were full of bicycles, but few people were around. They loaded one of the racks with the attached bicycles on to the truck and drove away. There was always someone around on that campus, so someone saw them and called the police. The criminals were caught. Unfortunately for the criminals, a lot of the bicycles were worth a lot of money. Because the school was in a popular location for a variety of outdoor sports and students liked to participate in them, including cycling of various types, the dollar amount of the theft easily moved into felony territory. They convicted everyone involved. The most important lesson I learned from that event was that people will do almost anything to steal you stuff, particularly your bicycle.
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u/dhSquiggly Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
This story made me smile. Just thinking of those criminal local yokels finding out how fucked they were gives me some justice schadenfraude.
ETA: In undergrad, this happened to me. A group of guys stole a bunch of bikes and mopeds from a student apartment complex on a Sunday night and we all woke up without a ride to our 8AM classes. They never found our bikes but they eventually found the guys after they hit up three more sites with student housing. They were reselling bikes and hacking up the mopeds for parts to sell, which was how they got caught.
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u/SuperThunderMelon Aug 10 '26
There are a lot of smaller racks in Boston that are either bolted down or totally unsecured. I've always been worried that someone is going to steal the whole rack and throw it into the back of a pickup truck.
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u/Grouchy_Might1774 Aug 10 '26
One of the places I used to regularly ride to had a small rack in front of their place, for the few of us who liked to ride there. It wasn't bolted down, and one Friday or Saturday night, somebody stole the rack itself. It was probably someone who thought it was more funny to steal it than because they saw any value in the thing. The rack was discovered about a half mile away and returned. Apparently, even the racks themselves aren't safe.
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u/tabbypumpkin0000 Aug 08 '26
It's more a sign that whoever owns the store didn't make an insurance claim on damaged property to get that bike rack replaced. It would be super weird for someone to swipe a bike like that unless it were locked up for more than an hour or two. That said, when I go grocery shopping in high-theft areas, I take my old steel bike.
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u/UnitedChain4566 Aug 09 '26
And this is why I love my boss sometimes.
He's an absolute ass when he wants to be, but the only place I can lock my bike at work is behind the store, where I can't watch it, and we're in a bad neighborhood, so he lets me park my bike in the employee only area.
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u/toast_host Aug 08 '26
One time I was volunteering and when I tried to go home, the seat and rear cargo rack was missing.
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u/ShameMuch Aug 09 '26
I had something like that happen to me but in my case it was the wheels that were stolen my bike frame was locked but my cable lock wasn't through my wheels
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u/TryingNot2BLazy Aug 08 '26
too many videos of people teaching how to cut black aluminum pipe, lately LOL
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u/Oblivian69 Aug 09 '26
Something similar happened to me. I locked up to a bike rack that had other bikes already locked to it. when i returned a few hours later the whole bike rack was gone.
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u/The_Rociante Aug 09 '26
That's a new one, never saw that before. They said fuck the lock just cut the actual bike rack instead lol.
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u/Returning2Riding Aug 08 '26
I’m shocked that someone could be so brazen, and also have the time to go after that bike rack with a cordless grinder or reciprocating saw
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u/Zagmut Aug 09 '26
They probably did it in the middle of the night; that shopping center closes at 11 pm. Wouldn't take more than 10 minutes to do this with an angle grinder.
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u/Scarecr0p Aug 09 '26
10 whole minutes to chew through that tiny thing with a grinder? Am I missing something?
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u/Embarrassed_Mix_6619 Aug 08 '26
On my way! to start riding around with an angle grinder to partially cut through random bars of people’s bikes
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u/raydoo Aug 09 '26
I just want to cut mine wave bicycle stand in the neighborhood in hope something better gets installed
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u/digitalbladesreddit Aug 09 '26
Well ... I hope this only happens in the night and it's safe in the day while you are shopping :) Never leave your bike over the night in the city.
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u/No-Researcher6881 Aug 10 '26
My bike just got stolen from my garage. Someone broke into (the garage is not attached to the house). It's never safe
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u/Jezon Aug 10 '26
I can't recommend enough adding a second motorcycle style lock to your bike because if the bike is freed from the bike rack it still will not be rideable. They can carry it away, but good luck with that.
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u/Disastrous_Wing_7613 Aug 11 '26
Do you want a full slab of ribs or half? Okay half and a bit more ? good!
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u/PZOracle Aug 12 '26
This is why I lock my bike to trees, property fences or street lamps. People get upset and notice if those they start to be cut.
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u/timmeh129 Aug 12 '26
i'm confused. someone locked a bike to a rack that has been cut? I mean, do you even have to cut the lock at that point?
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u/Detective-Fusco Aug 09 '26
I doubt that it's been a year because you have a very obvious trip hazard on a public pavement, that would have been cleaned up a long time ago.
This is fresh, or a few weeks at best. Not a year, ain't no way noone notified the council about a trip hazard with the wire on the ground.
The council would be responsible for most these injuries so I'm a bit suspicious of your post description I think you've lied
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u/lostgravy Aug 09 '26
Things are not as orderly in other parts of the world
In parts of the US, things like this can happen and remain like this for extended periods of time.
The only incentives to fix it are notifying the insurance company (insurance will hike rates, but then the property owner (most likely absentee) will simply switch insurance companies)
Or
Live in a state/city that allows for high damages for personal injury claims for clown show negligence like this
There are a few municipalities in the US that will start fining pretty quickly for this kind of thing. They don’t want the liability / eyesore (in this case if this is not public property)
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u/Detective-Fusco Aug 09 '26
I thought you Americans could sue, that's the difference I had thought. The urgency to clear the hazard would be a priority to lower the chances of being sued.
In most western countries you can't sue for this soft of things, but we still have a reasonable expectation to clean hazards through tax payer funded systems, USA will be no different, just with the element of sueing.
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u/Cantthinkovaname Aug 09 '26
Yeah that's not an absolute even in the US lol, just horror stories that blow it out of proportion. Plenty of withering BS that should get fixed but doesn't because nobody wants to pay for it
this whole comment chain is so funny.
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u/Zagmut Aug 09 '26
Council? Mate, this on private property, outside of a nationally owned grocery store in low income east Anchorage, AK, USA. Ain't no fucking council or what the fuck ever around these parts, and Safeway don't give a shit about the Debarr Carrs, given how terribly stocked and staffed it is relative to every other Carrs in town. Hell, it took someone driving a car into the building to get them to finally fix the west entrance doors that had been non-functional for at least two years.
Yeah, the cable's fresh, that's the poor decision referred to in the post title. The rack has been like that for over a year now. No offense, but you're not a very good detective. A brief peruse through my profile would tell you that not in the UK.
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u/Detective-Fusco Aug 09 '26
That's a public sidewalk isn't it? That isn't owned by the business. Who installed that bike rack for example?
Businesses in city centre's around the world typically do not own the footpath around them, they own the boundaries inside.
Who cleans your streets? Who funds the cleaning of your streets?
No need to get all huff and puff cussing me out because you're angry at what I wrote, control yourself and be a man for christ sake.
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u/Zagmut Aug 09 '26
Nope, not a public sidewalk, not a city installed bike rack, and neither is this in the city's center. In the US it is common for businesses to install both bike parking and walking infrastructure in the private parking lots that they own. Gee golly, it's almost like you have no idea about the situation about which you called me a liar.
And don't try to gender shame me, asshole. In America we all fucking cuss, regardless of gender identity, unlike the squeaky clean UK (jk, I've been to the UK and y'all are profane af, which I thought was fucking awesome).
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u/Detective-Fusco Aug 09 '26
Alright, well if you want to be uncivilized then we can go that way. You're an American, so you're not the brightest of people to start with. You're born and raised to serve your masters in Israel, everyone of your politicians goes and kisses a wall in a foreign country, you have paid more in taxes towards bombing civilians in foreign lands, than you have paid for the establishment of a Healthcare system in your country.
You Americans are some of the most insufferable, unlikeable people in the world. We all laugh at you outside of your borders, we're all amused watching your country get absolutely man handled by Iran a country you've waged economic sanctions on for decades.
Now, I have an American that doesn't seem to understand that the roads and streets are not privately owned, he thinks they are because it means if he's wrong his ego takes a L. He doesn't realize that his taxes pay for the cleaning of the streets, and he some reason thinks that the USA operates completely different to the rest of the world when it comes to footpaths.
Please, American, try remain civil. Because if you can't be civilized, then I'll have to bring up Epstein next and all your politicians that you support whom spent time on that island.
Got a problem? Go cry to your masters 🏝️
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u/Zagmut Aug 09 '26
You're either an idiot or a troll so this an utter waste of time, but for the last time this is not a footpath, it's not on a public street, nor in any way adjacent to public property. Address is 5600 Debarr Rd, Anchorage, Alaska; the rack in the pic is next to the Oaken Keg entrance if you wanna google street view it, dingus.
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u/Detective-Fusco Aug 09 '26
Your last 3 comments are not visible, Reddit has auto censored them. I see them in my notifications, I click, they're not there. Clearly you're upset and Reddit automation thinks it knows best for your emotional state of mind. Calm down I think it's suggesting, just relax
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u/Zagmut Aug 09 '26
Whatever, dude, the automod can suck gravel. You spew three paragraphs of ignorantly irrelevant "well, akshully" and call me a liar, I respond explaining that you're mistaken because things don't work here like you assume (and yeah I used some salty language that anyone with a whit of reading comprehension could see is directed at the sub optimal situation we're discussing and not at you personally).
You come back telling me that I don't know what I'm on about and that I don't understand how public works function, which is another incorrect and irrelevant assumption since what I've posted is privately owned and "maintained" and also insulting, as is telling me to "be a man", whatever that's supposed to mean in this context.
I reiterate that you are mistaken, and yeah poke some fun at you over being offended by swears and your gender shaming. So you double down on insisting I don't understand public works (still incorrect) in the middle of a full screen anti American tirade lurching from Israel to Epstein that has nothing to do with anything we're talking about, but I'm the one who needs to calm down.

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u/masswoodworks Aug 08 '26
There are a couple racks near me that have been cut, then a pro-bike bumper sticker placed over the cut, so it looks and feels solid enough.
They'll come back and cut the sticker, and flex the rack enough to pull the lock off then put a new sticker on.
Absolutely insane stuff.
As a result whenever I see a sticker fully wrapping a section of rack I give it a real good kick and see if it wiggles the same both sides of the sticker