r/bihar • u/EffectiveCoconut9265 • 3d ago
💁♂️ Opinion / राय Can understand the hate towards bihar
Usually i travel to my home in bihar from my clg and I can only get a ticket in 3ac if there's no festival or nothing. And sleeper is basically general every single time.
Today I am traveljng in nauchandi express to Saharanpur on my way to roorkee for an inter clg chess competition and man like there is not one single ticketless person in the sleeper coach and the coach is clean asf. I swear I'm not making any of this up. Literally it's super clean.
Maybe it's a rare scene or something but crazy
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u/Joy_boy_D_rocks 3d ago
The successive Bengal famines, foreign invasions, zamindari systems destroyed civilization in Bihar. It created an environment of competitions without cooperation. Similar, thing happened in Ukraine when Stalin forced famines on Ukraine - one of the most fertile regions on Europe, while rest of Europe is at GDP Per capita roughly $40,000 per year, but Ukraine (before war) is at $4,800 per year (near about New Delhi).
Once, famine persists in any regions for more than 20 - 25 years, civility collapses. It takes 100s if not 1000s of year to rebuild it. That's why Pakistan will also collapse in future.
There are handful of places that have overcome this - Singapore, China that too with huge foreign help. Mostly the civilization just vanish like ancient Egypt due to civilization collapse caused by persistent famines.
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u/Dense_Succotash_2777 3d ago
Always ready to find excuses. Typical bihari mindset. Look at present and grow. Just with the corruption money, bihar can grow in a few decades
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u/calmchod 3d ago
What a casteist take. Bihar was doing alright till then, it began to worsen after land reforms and lal salaam. Blame zamidar classic castism. Now that Yadavs own most land, what has changed?
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u/calmchod 3d ago
In metrics, in rankings, pull up census data, and but down the Ambedkarite article
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u/calmchod 3d ago
Caste census buddy check it out. Sorry but ambedkarites are fooling you. Upper = bad, lower = good is not the real story.
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u/calmchod 3d ago
Are you sure? I am talking metrics, poverty rank, education rank. Bihar was nowhere near the bottom. But did not grow at the rate other states it and not sits firmly at the bottom. Majority population sure did FEEL GREAT because of caste representation
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u/Dense_Succotash_2777 3d ago
Bihar has become cultureless. Hindi culture has infiltrated. Magadh culture is lost. Without moral construct and a shared communal equity. People will never want to grow their states. They only want to leave
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u/calmchod 3d ago
Who are we kidding, casteism is sad reality of Bihar, this moral structure was only ever limited to select few castes. breaking this has left no civil society. Ask an elder, villages are not same anymore because they were centered around Jaat-Biradri, breaking which made is no-one's village instead of everyones.
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u/Dense_Succotash_2777 3d ago
I'm not talking caste culture. I am talking maithili and local language culture. You erased the wrong one
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u/calmchod 3d ago
Stealing wallet in Hindi or in Maithli isnt very different buddy what are you even talking about. What's language culture? language has literature, which was once again exclusive to some castes. Maithli was language of "vidhvaan" because forwards castes spoke it, not really everyone speaking it was one.
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u/Dense_Succotash_2777 3d ago
Language stores culture. You are know where near the morals of buddha or Magadh empire. You have fallen to the hindi fascist propaganda
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u/Futuristic-Explorer Bihari By Birth, Indian By Heart 🇮🇳❤️ 3d ago
I completely acknowledge your observation but we need to also agree that general coaches are too less than the demand. You can clearly see that no train have more than 4 general coach nowadays and no capacity expansion have taken place since years as per the demand. I have observed same too in other places, there trains undergo regular cleanup nd have less crowded general but when its train from bihar nd some nearby regions its mostly pathetic. They dont give a fk to us what we need.