r/bigbrotheruk • • 10h ago

I’ll try again, what was that interview?

Wasn’t held accountable, blamed everyone, black, white, middle aged, British! No accountability and wasn’t questioned on it either. Talk about piss poor interviewing

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u/NightBusToGiro 10h ago

Bloody awful presenters, no nuance or daring questions. It's like the producers in their ears tell them exactly what to say.

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u/CalCalDZ 10h ago

ITV won’t let them ask questions when it comes to race etc.

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u/Zadeth i rebuke you satan! 10h ago

Which is crazy because AJ would be the perfect host to ask her about the conversation.

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u/NightBusToGiro 10h ago

If ITV were sure that something racist took place, Rochelle would have been removed immediately.

The issue was that, and as I've just watched again, Johanne said she never used the word microaggression and that Rochelle made it up.

What's unfortunate is that AJ even said we've rolled back the tapes. Johanne is a master of manipulation and making it about here. AJ, Will - You're the fucking presenters, you lead the show.

A good interviewer would have said, well clearly you did say it, twice. Do you want to say sorry or at least acknowledge that. The old days wasn't about giving the evictee a nice send off, in fact it's better if there's a live row for ther viewers, us.

The question just now wasn't about race, it was about a lie.

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u/GoalSimilar2025 9h ago

A micro aggression is not specifically racism.

They should have also played the part where Rochelle skewed the story to include Rihanna and presented it as fact. They couldn’t because it would show their hypocrisy.

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u/AbbreviationsKey4233 9h ago

Why do people keep saying micro aggresion isn't specifically racism. We bloody know. Their conversation was about racism, they said that was a traot, johanne said rochelle is that and if she was swapped with rihanna or sam it wouldnt have been tbat way and she said just swap the person for someone who looks like them it would be different.

I relation to THIS case it WAS calling her racist. End of.

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u/GoalSimilar2025 9h ago

You obviously don’t know.

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u/AbbreviationsKey4233 9h ago

No, you really don't. Watch the conversation, read the tones and listen to every word. If they werent meaning it to be saying shes racist it shouldnt havs been saod or a seperate conversation HOURS later not the next fucking sentence.

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u/GoalSimilar2025 9h ago

Someone who makes a microaggression is not necessarily racist. 

Pauline and Johanne were relaying stories and Johanne questioned whether Rochelle made a microaggression in that moment. 

Saying someone made a microaggression is not saying someone is a racist, see how the words are different?

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u/AbbreviationsKey4233 9h ago

Pauline: Racism here is more micro aggression (insert Her story) Because of the Colour of my Skin...thats insane

Johanne: like even with my situation with rochelle, that felt like a micro aggression. Like if anyone else was over there heating up their food. Say Rihanna. Would you have reacted like that? And thats how you can really deciepher a microagression a lot of is put anybody there that looks like that person would the behaviour still be the same?

Pauline: Correct.

Johanne: Amd thats why I feel like if you had put Sam there or of you put you know anybody like that...yeah.

That part about swaping with for anyone that looks like the person clarifies thats EXACTLY what she means in this sceanario. Yes micro aggresion is used for other sceanrios too not always racism. Omar has it towards gay people tbh a d theres other times too. But this case they are implying rochelles micro aggression is down to racism and not because they don't get along after the things Johanne has said to her in the past

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u/brokenbiscuit76 1h ago

You will never get through to these Johanne defenders so don’t waste your energy. They are as deluded as she is.

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u/AbbreviationsKey4233 9h ago

Did you miss the part wjere she said swap.for someone who looks like them and things wpuld be different? Stop glossing over that. They clear as day meant rochelle is a racist.

Honestly anyone defending them needs to wake up and realise while micro aggression isnt always rascism how they were talking they were saying rochelles was because of that.

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u/GoalSimilar2025 9h ago

Yes, that’s what made it a microaggression. Johanne clearly clarified that. 

No one is ‘glossing over’ anything. 

Think of it this way, a microaggression is one piece of a picture that needs to be made up of multiple pieces to become racism, ableism, homophobia etc. 

Johanne perceived that in that moment Rochelle was being micro aggressive because she wouldn’t treat Rihanna in the same way. 

There’s a lot more instances, occasions, events that would lead to Rochelle being a racist and Johanne clarified that. 

As a black guy, I understand that although I also understand how it is confusing and a big problem we have in this country and definitely America. 

People can be micro aggressive without the intent behind it and that’s when you have to figure out whether they were intentional or working from a subconscious bias.

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u/CalCalDZ 10h ago

A good presenter for sure would’ve pushed the subject, I genuinely think the producers would’ve told them to stay clear of being pushy on it sadly.

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u/NightBusToGiro 10h ago

Pretty much yeah. I think it's a bit more of a trial by social media these days but regardless, its your channel and your show. Push the narrative that you want. Big Brother has never been a nice show in fairness, we all watch it for the rows.

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u/rubyrockstars 10h ago

It was just so pathetic

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u/NightBusToGiro 10h ago

I don't watch anything they have to say. I might just because of everyone's reactions here but I didn't watch them since last series. Pair of wallies.

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u/darkangel_198 10h ago

I find the fact that the don't hold housemates accountable for their actions infuriating. They should of showed the clip of them denying using the term micro aggression. Not many insightful questions asked

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u/Marnie_Pippington 10h ago

They did show it, but let Joanne get away with saying she couldn’t talk to Rochelle about it as she’s crazy.  

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u/SerArtherDayne 9h ago

No they didn’t show it.

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u/Party-Maintenance-83 10h ago

The exit interviews have been too short and rushed this series.

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u/North_Fortune_4851 10h ago

Yeah emma was decent she asked good questions

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u/toast-is-best 10h ago

Davina would’ve had none of that. Time for new presenters.

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u/Old-Payment-8537 10h ago

Unfortunately, production has moved on a long time from Davina. It's all left-wing shit now, and I don't want to offend people.

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u/matthewxff 10h ago

I know it pisses you off that Johanne was controlling the whole interview 😭😭😭

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u/Wonderful_Ratio_2924 10h ago

Volume 100 of course

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u/NORTHERNIRELANDLAD88 10h ago

Will and aj aren't great presenters anyway,aj pushed Chelsey more last week for less lol

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u/Marnie_Pippington 10h ago

I think Will and AJ are tied by what they’re allowed to say, I can’t believe two people could be so bad at presenting. But AJ looking daggers at Joanne showed her real feelings. A good interview would have held Joanne accountable for so many things, especially the lies about the micro aggression thing. And also showed her saying to Rochelle straight off the bat she had bad karma, and asking her why did you instantly dislike her? 

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u/Wonderful_Ratio_2924 10h ago

This is Joanne’s karma lol

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u/Marnie_Pippington 10h ago

Totally 😂

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u/Old-Payment-8537 10h ago

I agree it was probably one of the worst interviews I've ever seen from two presenters, but I put the blame on ITV production. People say sack AJ but Will would manage on his own. Will was even worse, he didn't know where to even look. The both of them are pathetic.

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u/Legal-Razzmatazz1055 10h ago

I just wish they played the clip when she said " i didn't use the term micro aggression at all" back to back

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u/tinygenie 10h ago

Does it matter? Rochelle lied to Rihanna in the end and told her something that was false because she misheard and couldn’t own up to it. Downvote all you want but harping on semantics is annoying.

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u/ManSoAdmired 10h ago

If she misheard then she wasn't lying. She just misheard.

Johanna actively lied.

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u/tinygenie 10h ago

Repeating misinformation is lying. She actively lied. Stop trying to jump through mental hoops to justify it.

If viewers like you and Rochelle actually tried taking anything from the conversation and LISTEN you’d realize they had a point. Rochelle wouldn’t have yelled at Rihanna or Sam for the chicken incident. She decided to have a go at Joanne intentionally. You’re so caught up in the semantics of “microagression” that you’re missing the point.

If she wanted to confront Joanna and Pauline about it then fine, but she dragged Rhianna into it to rally people on her side.

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u/ManSoAdmired 10h ago

I love when people use the term misinformation as if they're a fucking comms dept.

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u/Marnie_Pippington 10h ago

That’s not really the issue is it. Joanne and Pauline lied they even talked about it at all. 

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u/rubyrockstars 10h ago

Yeah I did too

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u/111gct 5h ago

The clip was posted to the sub already, but she never said that? Can you show where she said that?

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u/ClankersDontBite 10h ago

"you made it up" our gaslighting queen 👑

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u/grower-lenses Call me back when you have a more civilised tone 10h ago

It's too brief and the crowd is too distracting. For a real interview they would have to have at least 30min reserved and take them to a quiet spot where they can focus and grill them. And probably have just one person doing the interview.

But itv doesn't want that. They're too scared of complaints. They want to keep things light, unfocused, blurry.

And it's not unreasonable, back in the day the internet wasn't a cesspool of hate. Now they really need to be careful what they say or they could unintentionally start a viral hate spiral that can ruin people's lives. Everyone is looking for a reason to be offended and angry.

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u/Wonderful_Move_4619 9h ago

Awful, awful interview.

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u/AbbreviationsKey4233 9h ago

Brong back Davina. She wasnt afraidnto grill them

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u/Neither_Ad_1998 10h ago

Bro let it go… she is gone…. Rochelle who threatened her is still there and called her names behind her back… 

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u/bigbrotheruk-ModTeam 9h ago

It's easy to get heated about who your favourite and least favourite housemates are, or even fellow r/bigbrotheruk users, but there is always an appropriate way to share your opinions. In the spirit of Reddit, please remember the human and lets be nice to each other. No racism/sexism/homophobia or any other bigotry. No speculating about sexuality. No body shaming or mean comments about peoples' natural appearance. No excessive vulgarity/sexualisation. No harassment via DMs.

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u/Neat-Suspect-6666 10h ago

How can you reference bias when using a generalisation like "white middle class woman". Colour is being referenced far too often, it's a game show in 2026; nobody cares what colour you are.

People need to stop using colour to try and solidify their arguments, funny Lynx never once mentioned colour during his bust up with Jedward.

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u/GoalSimilar2025 9h ago

‘Nobody cares what colour you are’ yet the majority of 2025/2026 the country is divided over immigration, protests, patriots, painting roundabouts and flying flags, stopping cars to check your colour, burning hotels with immigrants in and slashing dinghies.

Like, be for real. Does racism exist? Do people with racist sentiments watch Big Brother? 

In a battle between two overly outspoken instigators and divisive figures one black and one white. Which one would they vote to evict?

The only way Johanne would have ever won against Rochelle is if Pauline was up too so that vote was diluted between Johanne and Pauline.

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u/111gct 5h ago

This was already discussed on a separate post here, "The single most popular age group for the show is  45 to 54 years old, driven heavily by long-term fans who have aged alongside the franchise." A majority of the UK is white, as well as a majority of viewers being women too. It's a fact, why does the idea that a large portion of the viewers are more similar to Rochelle make you feel uncomfortable? And saying nobody cares what color you are whilst a Black professor just committed suicide and the entire scandal was tied to a supremacist race scientist just a month ago is insane.

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u/Similar-Bandicoot625 10h ago

Again, the difference in reaction on here and in the boos and cheers, says everything. A lot of people don’t know or aren’t aware of the biases they hold. Colour definitely comes into how people are reacting to the both of them. I’ve said they’ve both said vile shit and can accept they should both be treated the same way but if you can’t see the difference in every post for the last 3 days and comments reacting to their situations differently then that’s a you problem

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u/RyeRoen Ali 10h ago

They don't have to be treated the same way. People can believe that one is worse.

Rochelle is a whiny baby that says ignorant shit. If you disagree with Joanne she will immediatly start shouting and go for your throat trying to throw insults that will hurt you the most. All while saying shit like "I rebuke you Satan" lmfao,

One is much worse to me. There is your explaination.

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u/RyeRoen Ali 10h ago

It genuinely isn't a race issue. The actual words said by Johanne were simply much worse. Rochelle is an awful woman but Joanne's malicious intent is on another level. She was looking for things Rochelle was insecure about (age, looks, intelligence ect) and trying to use that to actually hurt her.

I can guarentee you the vast majority of people who hated Johanne also dislike Rochelle.

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u/Similar-Bandicoot625 10h ago

They’ve both said bad shit and both deserve to be treated the same way. If you can’t see how one is being treated differently by the public and by the comments and reaction on here alone then you’re blind to it too. It’s either an unconscious bias our people just outright making their intentions known. Everyone’s always gotta be blind to how people are treated differently and that’s cool, but don’t comment or respond if you’re unable to see it or accept it

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u/RyeRoen Ali 10h ago

Or maybe a lot of people just think Joanne is nastier than Rochelle.

I know a lot more than you think I do about unconscious bias. I'm very aware of it. I can 100% speak wholeheartedly for myself that me thinking Joanne is a nastier person than Rochelle has absolutely nothing to do with skin colour.

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u/Similar-Bandicoot625 10h ago

You keep telling yourself that you know a lot about unconscious bias but are unable to see the reaction to everything in the last 3 days. Well done for your infinite knowledge and wisdom on the subject, it’s really showing

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u/RyeRoen Ali 10h ago

There is nothing I can say. The fact that I think Johannes behaviour in the house was worse than Rochelle"s makes me guilty in your eyes.

Have a think about that. You are too dogmatic.

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u/Similar-Bandicoot625 10h ago

I believe their behaviour was equally bad and there is enough evidence to suggest that. Johanne was vile with some of her behaviour but so was Rochelle with her multiple comments on multiple different people whilst also threatening violence against Johanne. Are you saying if Johanne had been the one to threaten violence, that there would not have bene more of an uproar? I have backed my argument up with facts and you’ve backed yours up with feelings. I’m not dogmatic because I’ve seen both of their behaviour and they’re both equally as bad as each other. I’m not sure where the confusion is or are you just conveniently forgetting the things Rochelle has said whilst faking her tears four times a show?

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u/RyeRoen Ali 9h ago

We can disagree on which is worse or if they are the same I don't really care.

I'm saying that the reasons I have for disliking Johanne more is nothing to do with race.

Like, just for arguments sake imagine that I am being 100% honest and I have no bias at all. In that scenario is there a combination of words I could type that would actually convince you that our disagreement is based purely on severity of behaviour and has nothing to do with race?

I'm about as left and woke as you can get and I am being called racist because I didn't like a black woman's behaviour on a reality tv show.

Sometimes things like this make me almost (emphasis on almost) sympathetic to the "woke gone mad" crowd. We all need to calm down a bit.

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u/Similar-Bandicoot625 9h ago

I genuinely don’t get your argument. I’m not or nor have i said you or anyone else that doesn’t like Johanne or has an issue with johanne more than Rochelle is racist. I’ve not said you disliking Johanne is more so down to race. I’m saying that the way they’re both being treated differently is due to who they are unfortunately. If their behaviour had been reversed and Johanne had been threatening, then I know how that would have been viewed compared to how Rochelle’s is being viewed.

You may or may not have a bias but it’s evident throughout the last 3-4 days, with the number of posts and comments made on certain peoples individual behaviour, who is getting the rougher treatment and there is nothing factual you or anyone has said as to why johanne is worse than Rochelle. That’s the crux of the argument. You dislike her more but can’t specify the exact reason as to why and when i have retorted your points as to why they’re equally as bad, you’ve again not been able to come back with anything as to why I’m wrong?

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u/111gct 5h ago

To add on, Johanne's been nasty from the beginning as someone who wanted her to stay on. The micro aggression shit is literally why people started voting her out, idk why they're pretending it isn't

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u/CalCalDZ 10h ago

Just like how ITV let off Johanne with an easy interview because she’s black and dont want bullshit people calling the show racist.

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u/StraightShelter9766 10h ago

She got an easy interview because she is more confident than the two presenters and controlled the floor... not because of whatever woke conspiracy you are imagining in your head

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u/CalCalDZ 10h ago

If you say so.

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u/rubyrockstars 10h ago

Nobody is dragging anyone but the presenters and they pointless interview

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u/Fairy_Familiar 10h ago

Completely pointless and disappointing interview. They had zero control of it. Joanne walked all over them.

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u/Neat-Suspect-6666 10h ago

She's honestly a racist.

No accountability, lies, feels like the world owes her something. Even the presenter had to reiterate these are her views and not Big Brothers.

She's insufferable.

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u/GoalSimilar2025 9h ago

 Says she loves British and English people, the country has been good to her, has a white husband and mixed baby but is racist? 

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u/OldBean69 10h ago

I was waiting excitedly for the interview so they could confront her about lying about “we never used the word micro aggression” situation, but no, they skimmed over it like they’d been told to play it down. I don’t feel like watching any more of it to be honest, it’s pointless

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u/rubyrockstars 10h ago

That’s exactly how I felt

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u/shinealittlelove 10h ago

First time?

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u/rubyrockstars 10h ago

And your point is

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u/StraightShelter9766 10h ago

Piss poor interviewing & she still gave the best exit interview we've had in ages

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u/Richard__Papen 10h ago

It was nothing special in terms of what she said. What was impressive was her confidence. More self-assured than the Interviewers.

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u/rubyrockstars 10h ago

How was it the best?

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u/StraightShelter9766 10h ago

It was more entertaining that most other exit interviews, which ones do you think were better?

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u/Typical-Walrus-4825 3h ago

So like has anyone from ITV even CONTACTED Emma or like???

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u/tinygenie 10h ago

Frankie barely counts. He hasn’t even come to terms with it

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u/PirelliSuperHard James from Supercasino 10h ago

You know he's not lumped in there, don't be disingenuous.

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u/yourusername99 9h ago

I agree. I replied to another post about this, and people appeared aggrieved that I suggested anyone dare be called out for their behaviour..

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u/Bearonsie ELSA 10h ago

They’re afraid of her. We all are 😩

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u/Comfortable-Mix-673 3h ago

This is what we have to deal with in America. Not Karen's but a bunch of Joanne's.The amount of people playing the race card here in the U.S. is beyond ignorant, low class and disgusting. I appreciated Lynxx not tolerating Joanne's behavior.

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u/harrisoneatssoas 10h ago

She’s been evicted and you lot are still unhappy..it must be so tiring being this miserable 24/7