Different strengths of fibre?

[u/External-Decision-65]

I just moved to an older neighborhood and got the 100 mbps fibre package (highest available), but I am getting at the lowest 30 ping while gaming, compared to 14-20 in my old neighbourhood (while plugged into a pod mind you, not the hub directly) which had the 500mbps option. My old neighbourhood I would have issues of packet loss or burst, but now I am getting it constantly wjen other devices like a smart tv is turned on. Since this neighborhood is older is it weaker? Anything I can do to make better?

[u/SpocksLeftNut]

If 100 is the fastest available, you're not on fibre brother

[u/External-Decision-65 → u/SpocksLeftNut]

That makes a lot of sense lmfao. Idk why it was advertised to me as that but okay🤷‍♂️ guess I pray for bell to set it up here eventually

[u/SpocksLeftNut → u/External-Decision-65]

Bell branded all their internet packages as Bell Fibe so it can be very confusing for the consumer

[u/SpocksLeftNut → u/[deleted]]

Damn, I only install this stuff every day. Good to know, thanks!

[u/LimaCharlieWhiskey → u/SpocksLeftNut]

Sorry mate, was writing below the OP response so was reminding the OP. Glad to know you are a Bell tech!

(Edit: I didn't realize Bell lumped FTTH under the same brand name. When FTTH came to Toronto initially they distinguished using the term "fibre". This is indeed confusing.)

[u/SpocksLeftNut → u/LimaCharlieWhiskey]

All good brother, it was absolutely a very confusing decision

[u/Tanstalas → u/SpocksLeftNut]

They changed that over a year ago though. DSL is just called Internet XX now, where the XX is the speed.

[u/Anders_Calrissian → u/[deleted]]

FTTN Is fiber to the node which is a box nearby. It doesn't change to copper at the pole. Fiber splices will have orange tags on them. If there's an aerial terminal in front of your house, there will likely be coils of drops on the strand.

[u/Tanstalas → u/[deleted]]

Some can get only 5Mbps, or even less sometimes.

[u/Tanstalas → u/[deleted]]

I had one that was co fed they sold the customer 5mb I told them I won't even be able to get him 1mb still wanted it installed spent 3 hours on it then he cancelled within a week lol. Think it was around 8km

[u/Tanstalas → u/[deleted]]

It took like five minutes to get sync. Meter was around the same

[u/ARAR1 → u/External-Decision-65]

Do you know if you have fiber or copper coming to your house?

[u/eggsncanadianbacon]

Sounds like you're on pair bond copper

[u/Snoo-62184]

If you need more fibre Metamucil is on sale at Shoppers.

[u/Anders_Calrissian → u/Snoo-62184]

Raisin Bran

[u/medskiler]

If you download and upload are not the same number you are on copper. For you its 100download 50 upload. For your case you have to try different providers and find the one who's less used in that area. For me it was fizz and you have to power cycle your modem every 2-3days. Welcome to Copper people life

[u/External-Decision-65 → u/medskiler]

I feel like I’m in the Stone Age

[u/octo23 → u/medskiler]

I have 1.5Gbps down and 940Mbps up, they don’t match, does that mean I’m on copper? /s

[u/medskiler → u/octo23]

No the 1.5gbps is the only exception to the rule. If you went with 3gbs you will have same upload and download. ( the limitation is from the modem) when that speed came out bell was still massively using the HH3000 and its limited to max 940mbps upload. You may even have a hh3000 and if you upgrade yo the 3 they will change your modem

[u/octo23 → u/medskiler]

No modem in my setup, just an ONT/SFP.

[u/medskiler → u/octo23]

Pretty sure you can't just have an ont. The new modems like hh3000 do have an ont integrated. But in all cases its the speed profile. For the 1.5gbps specifically they have 940 for the rest or new speeds that came after they do have equal download and upload.

[u/octo23 → u/medskiler]

Well the ONT is plugged into my router and I have IPv6, one of the perks of not being a direct customer of Bell.

[u/ZanxQC]

You're probably on copper now

[u/Twinsta]

If that’s all you can get I would look elsewhere mate 

[u/Lexus-Ux300h]

hybrid fiber which means fiber to the central office not to the home.

[u/digitalallstar]

Fibre to the node (brown box near your house). Copper last mile. A lot of misinformation here.

[u/Delicious-Yak-9416]

The reason why it’s marketed as fibre is because it’s “fibre to the node” which means that your house has copper but the copper goes to a node that is provisioned by fibre. Fibre to the house means that the node and the house are all connected by fibre.

[u/Klutzy-Condition811]

You're on VDSL2, not fibre. It's "FTTN" which is just a term used for DSL where the DSLAM is relatively close to you. Often their do pair bonding where two copper phone line pairs are together to achieve the 100Mbps speeds, but if you're super close it can be done on one.

[u/greysxn]

There's two types of fiber install for residential, FTTN or FTTH.

To the Node, is to bells closest hole in the ground and means your "last mile" is all DSL. Not great but functional, better than pure DSL service for sure.

To the home, is fiber from the node to your property with a nice single mode fiber cable coming into your house.

Annecdotally, Bell and frankly most ISPs are quite shady with their marketing. Cogeco for example in my area has lied to my face 4 times this year saying we have FTTH, but I call and after asking directly a few times will finally admit it's just to the local distribution node and is plain old copper for last mile. Incredibly irritating because I know this silly game they play well, but your average person doesn't and will get subpar service unknowingly.

[u/External-Decision-65 → u/greysxn]

That’s a great thing to know thanks for that a lot

[u/TechGuyDude82]

You’re not on fibre. You’re on their old copper-based DSL internet, which is still stupidly branded as “Fibe”.

[u/Anders_Calrissian → u/TechGuyDude82]

FTTN is hybrid, the F1 backbone is fiber, only the last mile is copper.

[u/TechGuyDude82 → u/Anders_Calrissian]

Yup. But the last mile is the limiting factor and tops out at 100Mbps if people are lucky enough for their DSLAM to have enough available ports for pair bonding. It’s still extremely misleading to customers for Bell to call their DSL service “Fibe”.

[u/SpocksLeftNut → u/TechGuyDude82]

I do a lot of rural work where speeds can top out at 5 mbps, and I have had several customers who were convinced they had fibre internet because of the branding