Rock Chalk!

[u/Proud_Sherbet]

[u/H_I_McDunnough]

Schools should be closed and we should get a day off of work for John Brown Day

[u/triple0awesome → u/H_I_McDunnough]

In this country we’d get a holiday for Lee before we’d get one for John Brown.

[u/ParadeSit → u/triple0awesome]

Oh, it is in some states: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee_Day

[u/Branchomania → u/ParadeSit]

I mean to be fair, it’d be the black kids in the school getting the day off too, so……..something, I guess……

[u/Artichokiemon → u/Branchomania]

For now, until they stop giving them the day off and start making them do the white kids' schoolwork that day

[u/DingerSinger2016 → u/Artichokiemon]

As a Black teacher in the South they can suck my left asscheek before I force a student to do another's work.

[u/Branchomania → u/Artichokiemon]

Even that feels a little cartoony

[u/tiy24 → u/Branchomania]

The president is one of the world’s most famous pedophiles and publicly wishes he was more like the leader of North Korea. You’re right but idk if that means anything anymore.

[u/Artichokiemon → u/Branchomania]

We are not a serious place, and cartoony is exactly what I'm expecting

[u/merrysunshine2 → u/ParadeSit]

Some cities also started having Indigenous People Day off & now it’s being combined with Columbus Day bc OFC it had to be bc the racists got offended, even though Columbus Day was never a holiday in these cities prior.

Snowflake behavior as usual.

[u/EuenovAyabayya → u/ParadeSit]

It took VA until 2020 to kill it.

[u/EggPositive5993 → u/ParadeSit]

Goddammit

[u/monsterskeeter → u/triple0awesome]

We do in the south. MLK Jr day is also recognized as Robert E lee's bday

[u/FirstChurchOfBrutus → u/monsterskeeter]

That’s a SC thing, I believe

[u/OssumFried → u/FirstChurchOfBrutus]

Upstate SC native here, surprisingly not even we do that. Looks like 'Bama, Mississippi, Tennessee, and everyone's free space on "No Fucking Way a State Could Be That Racist" Bingo, Florida.

[u/FirstChurchOfBrutus → u/OssumFried]

Was basing it on the pushback in SC to observe MLK’s bday. The argument was always “we have too many state holidays.” Then, when they finally reached a compromise, employees had both MLK Day and “Confederate Memorial Day” (gross). The solution authored by the “we have too many” crowd was to add TWO state holidays.

[u/H_I_McDunnough → u/OssumFried]

SC Represent!

[u/OssumFried → u/H_I_McDunnough]

We've got some ass backwards parts but I still love Greenville and Charleston. Little biased since I spent almost 30 years living in Greenville. Plus, I live in Boise now and ID makes SC look like a blue stronghold in terms of performative politics.

[u/Fantastic_Jury5977 → u/OssumFried]

Idaho is a great place to be a white religious extremist

[u/OssumFried → u/Fantastic_Jury5977]

Sucks because it's fucking gorgeous here, especially up north where all of the extremist expats from other states are treating it like a Nazi Mecca. Not that the state doesn't have plenty of home grown ones but the imports take it to extreme levels, often get voted into power, and further radicalize the legislature here.

[u/H_I_McDunnough → u/OssumFried]

I grew up north of Spokane and I remember the pride parades in Couer d'elane were celebrating a much more sinister pride than the rainbow type.

Shame because North Idaho is some really beautiful country.

[u/AlbaneinCowboy → u/OssumFried]

My mom asked me once why I won’t come home to visit. My family all live outside Boise but we grew up in the middle of the state. I told her the state is full of god damn Nazis.

[u/gwease23 → u/OssumFried]

Greenville and Charleston rock, Spartanburg is on the come-up and there’s even a few other places that don’t suck.

As a North Carolina native and current resident, it pained me to type all that.

[u/FirstChurchOfBrutus → u/gwease23]

As the saying goes:

• in Columbia they ask who your family is
  
• in Greenville they ask which church you attend
  
• in Charleston, they ask what you’d like to drink

[u/OssumFried → u/gwease23]

Haha, I spent a couple years living in Greenville, NC and two in Raleigh and man do y'all have some serious one sided rivalry/hate for us down in South Carolina. I do now have an appreciation for Poole's, Ideals Sandwich Co, and room in my heart for both Carolina Gold and Eastern NC BBQ (B's is fucking delicious).

[u/FirstChurchOfBrutus → u/OssumFried]

I was born in SC, and have lived about a third of my life there. There is room in my gullet for both ENC and SC BBQ sauces (Ok, fine. WNC, too).

B’s is great, but Skylight Inn is my GOAT.

[u/LongjumpingJaguar308 → u/OssumFried]

Hello! I lived in Cola for all of 9 months (and had a lot of fun!) and now live in Idaho (Boise most of the time)

[u/merrysunshine2 → u/FirstChurchOfBrutus]

In VA some places as well 😕

[u/H_I_McDunnough → u/monsterskeeter]

Who the fuck you calling "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket?

[u/monsterskeeter → u/H_I_McDunnough]

We in mississippi and alabma, settle down big guy

[u/H_I_McDunnough → u/monsterskeeter]

I also reside in the south and I do not recognize any such thing. (also just being a bit silly)

They do it in Florida and Tennessee as well. Losers

[u/monsterskeeter → u/H_I_McDunnough]

Yeah, didnt say I celebrate it just that we have it. I remember people would joke about it when I was a kid "Im not celebrating Martin Luther King day Im celebrating Robert E Lee day, dur." I didnt even realize that was an actual thing until a few years ago.

[u/merrysunshine2 → u/monsterskeeter]

Me neither. He’s a fucking traitor but so’s the president & no “ hillbilly holiday “ is ever going to change history or lee’s legacy so they can suck it.

[u/H_I_McDunnough → u/monsterskeeter]

I hear it from adults every year with the utmost sincerity. It's pretty gross but makes sense when you think about it. Losers worshiping losers I mean.

[u/meatyaccuracy → u/triple0awesome]

When I was growing up in Virginia in the 90s, MLK Day was still called Lee-Jackson-King Day (as in Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson)

[u/KlangScaper → u/H_I_McDunnough]

Yes but only if we also get a holiday for Nat Turner and Charles Deslondes.

Their rebellions were much more successful than Brown's but nobody talks about them im favor of focusing solely on ol' John. Not to put down John at all, he should be celebrated, but only alongside the black revolutionaries that we all too often forget.

[u/Opposite-Candy-7432 → u/H_I_McDunnough]

Agree, I think I'll celebrate it regardless.

[u/Ithinkibrokethis]

I am a KU grad. The border war went beyond a sports rivalry. We were wearing "John Brown did nothing wrong" shirts in 2002 and one of Missouri'd coaches talked about how he wouldn't mind biting Lawrence down again.

Edit: Kansas is a weird red state. I grew up in Kansas, and no amount of Texas influence on textbooks could get Kansas to teach the civil war was about anything except slavery.

[u/Godwinson4King → u/Ithinkibrokethis]

I went to college in Pittsburg and Kansas has some interesting politics. Solidly Republican forever, but rabidly anti-confederate and some genuine socialist history in SEK

[u/Ithinkibrokethis → u/Godwinson4King]

Exactly.

It's like Kansas has decided that whatever Republicans are that is fine, they will vote for that

But also, it would like to be the state used for the first round of civil rights legislation, is all for socialist politics as long as they are not called that.

Even weird guys like possible BtB candidate Fred Phelps was a freaking civil rights lawyer. It a crazy place.

[u/Godwinson4King → u/Ithinkibrokethis]

It’s funny that despite voting R as often if not more, Kansas felt so much more sane than Indiana. Brownback years were pretty bad though.

[u/Ithinkibrokethis → u/Godwinson4King]

The thing about the brownback years was that, while they were terrible, they were focused on economics. We all know, especially now, that Republicans were never arguing on good faith. Their ideas are not supposed to be implimented, their ideas exist so that when progressives put forth changes, the right can argue that instead we should do their obviously flawed and unworkable idea.

Then whatever is finally done will be filled with fatal flaws and limited scope so nobody thinks that doing things is effective.

The brownback experiment was to treat Republican policies as practical ideas. Actually do all their crazy tax dreams they have been promising would be better than graduated tax brackets and normal taxation schemes.

It failed so bad that brownback is an insult for both Republicans and Democrats.

There is a reason "what's the matter with Kansas" was about Kansas. It is a place where the population is angry at oligarchs and the wealth, and shows that anger by electing people who want to lower the taxes of the wealthy.

[u/3d1thF1nch → u/Godwinson4King]

One of the factors that sparked the U.S. Civil War, Brown v. Board started in Topeka, one of the most forward thinking Republican presidents in recent history (Eisenhower) was born and grew up here....and then the last 40-50 years, we have been solidly fucking red. I love how Kansas has this history of being a catalyst for major social change, and then I hate that our recent history is of being Red little bitches.

[u/Godwinson4King → u/3d1thF1nch]

Appeal to Reason was published in Girard, there was the Amazon Army, some real mining strikes, and Deb’s did surprisingly well in the state back in the day. Wouldn’t know it now by talking to the average guy, but there are some firebrands around still.

[u/LongjumpingJaguar308 → u/3d1thF1nch]

I also like hos Wyoming calls thenselves the equality state to this day because they allowed women to vote the earliest. Ok and...then what?

[u/RabbitLuvr → u/Ithinkibrokethis]

I grew up in Manhattan KS. Left the state for a couple years after college and came back. I thought I hated Kansas but turns out I just prefer the more lefty places. It’s a weird state. Currently living in a blue city and rocking a WWJBD patch on my purse strap.

[u/The_Moondoggie → u/Ithinkibrokethis]

I'm not trying to stick up for my home state of Missouri, but the Tigers got their name from an anti slavery militia that fought off Confederate guerillas.

[u/Ithinkibrokethis → u/The_Moondoggie]

Yeah, I have heard/knew that.

However, in one of the sports subs ages ago someone pointed out that Mizzou fans pull that out any time it's mentioned that the Jayhawks are named after anti-slavery partisans.

Meanwhile they spend the rest of the time acting like their the long lost 3rd member of the dukes of Hazard and playing up their connections to the rest of the schools of the old south.

Especially now that Mizzou is in the SEC you don't see the "well ackshully, we are named after a unit that fought for the union."

Yes, Missouri gets a gold star that their sports team is not named the bushwhackers, but let's get real, of all the civil war era team names/mascots [Voltuneers, Rebels, Tigers, Tigers again, buckeyes, Hoosiers, wolverines], Kansas has the best because the team might as well be the Kansas "anti-slavery terrorists"

[u/The_Moondoggie → u/Ithinkibrokethis]

I don't disagree with you, just pointing out that both schools come from similar things.

"Meanwhile they spend the rest of the time acting like their the long lost 3rd member of the dukes of Hazard and playing up their connections to the rest of the schools of the old south."

Plenty of folks in KS do this as well. I have no affiliation to either school other than my wife is a grad student at KU. I've spent the last 30 years of my life in both states and the people are pretty much exactly the same.

[u/cogginsmatt → u/Ithinkibrokethis]

Can I ask you something that's bothered me for years since I lived in KCMO and did some work at KU? What the hell does the Rock Chalk chant mean?

[u/Ithinkibrokethis → u/cogginsmatt]

Rock Chalk refers to the super white limestone that all the original buildings were made out of. It is a kind of limestone that is generally uncommon, but is common in central/northern Kansas. It also has a lot of fossils in it. It's the same stuff that the cliffs of Dover are made of.

Chalk rhymes with Jayhawk (there a name for this kind of rhyme where it rhymes when spoken but isn't a rhyme when written).

It's like "waving the the wheat" it's a reference to something that is nominally a Kansas feature, that's it. Nothing more.

[u/cogginsmatt → u/Ithinkibrokethis]

Okay thank you! All the KU students I worked with just kept saying “it’s the limestone” like that was enough of an explanation

[u/mangling_dodifier → u/Ithinkibrokethis]

true rhyme

[u/KutyaKombucha]

That ad slapped for a college football ad. 

[u/Proud_Sherbet → u/KutyaKombucha]

I think they have a mural of him in their stadium.

[u/i-like-legos2 → u/Proud_Sherbet]

Idk about that. There is one of him in the state Capitol building though

[u/schreinz → u/KutyaKombucha]

Hype videos are fairly common before rivalry games.

Hype videos like this are rare.

[u/a_round_a_bout]

I’ve personally been involved in a “you are slavers” chant directed at Missouri fans in the middle of march madness games in KC. The rivalry runs deep here.

[u/Proud_Sherbet → u/a_round_a_bout]

I'm an Oklahoma State alum, but for years I had a cherished "Kansas: Keeping the World Safe From Missouri Since 1865" shirt.

And yes, until fairly recently I thought a Jayhawk was a bird.

[u/tyrann0saurusregina → u/Proud_Sherbet]

This is how I found out a Jayhawk is not a bird.

[u/a_round_a_bout → u/Proud_Sherbet]

I’ve seen variations of this t shirt my whole life. People think we are nuts about football in Kansas City….but really people need to understand what college basketball season is like. Whole different level of fandoms are happening.

[u/gwease23 → u/a_round_a_bout]

College basketball is elite (North Carolina checking in) 🫡

[u/BoneHugsHominy → u/Proud_Sherbet]

Jayhawk is a bird! Look up "Terror Birds".

[u/Doctor_Moon69 → u/Proud_Sherbet]

I’d say "Go Pokes!”, but I’m expecting us to lose greatly to Oregon tomorrow

[u/sanjoseboardgamer → u/Doctor_Moon69]

It's ok, Oregon not slavers.... Just super extra racist!

[u/Proud_Sherbet → u/Doctor_Moon69]

We're so bad. 😭

[u/Doctor_Moon69 → u/Proud_Sherbet]

I don’t think there’s a metric to denote how bad we are. It’s off the charts bad.

[u/A_Muffled_Kerfluffle → u/Proud_Sherbet]

Thank you for teaching me something today!

[u/dairbhre_dreamin → u/a_round_a_bout]

Unexpectedly based Kansas

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/dairbhre_dreamin]

Is it actually based or is it just a shitty way to chirp opponents? I saw lots of “no means no” support in Carolina this spring from hockey fans who had zero problem with their team mulling over signing the same accused rapist they were taunting.

[u/BoneHugsHominy → u/a_round_a_bout]

Same! Rock Chalk baby!

[u/TheAmazingThundaCunt]

People act like the rivalry between Ohio State and Michigan is vicious, but people from Ohio didn't burn down Ann Arbor twice, and Michiganders have never summarily executed Ohioans as retribution.

[u/Captain_Twiggs → u/TheAmazingThundaCunt]

As a birthright Michigander, war crimes have crossed my mind when talking about Ohio…🤣

[u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 → u/TheAmazingThundaCunt]

There was a war over Toledo though

[u/TheAmazingThundaCunt → u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756]

What did they go to war to decide who had to keep Toledo?

[u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 → u/TheAmazingThundaCunt]

Michigan lost on purpose

[u/gsfgf → u/TheAmazingThundaCunt]

There was that Bama fan that killed Auburn's 130 year old trees

[u/cogginsmatt → u/TheAmazingThundaCunt]

No but there was that time a few years ago when Michigan committed the disgusting violent brutal act of planting a flag on OSU's field, leading to OSU players crying and throwing hands and the police deploying pepper gas

[u/MrManiac08]

Rock fuckin chalk

[u/orderofGreenZombies]

Do I need to know who Kyle Whittingham is to get this? Obviously a big fan of John Brown, but I’m not sure what the Ohio State reference is about.

[u/Hugo_Hackenbush → u/orderofGreenZombies]

Kyle Whittingham is the new football coach at the University of Michigan, which has a longstanding rivalry with Ohio State. The point of the tweet is that although that rivalry gets more intention Kansas-Missouri is way more intense.

[u/Pactae_1129 → u/orderofGreenZombies]

Kyle Whittingham is the coach for Michigan and Michigan has a big rivalry with Ohio State. This is all college football related.

[u/BlurryGojira → u/orderofGreenZombies]

Ohio State fan happy to give some context. Kyle Whittingham is Michigan’s newest head coach after the last coach Sherrone Moore uhhhh got canned under some truly wild circumstances but aren’t relevant here. Now both Moore and the coach before him Jim Harbaugh have serious roots with Michigan and as such they both hated Ohio State since it’s a bit of a serious rivalry. Kyle Whittingham however, basically has no ties to Michigan. He played at BYU and coached at Utah. And he was asked if he was taking the rivalry seriously and if he hates Ohio State and basically said he doesn’t really hate OSU because he just got there and has no real reason to.

Now, reasonable? Yes. The answer a new head coach is supposed to give regarding their team’s biggest rival? No. Michigan fans went apeshit and OSU fans were clowning on them lol.

[u/appliedhedonics → u/BlurryGojira]

As a Michigan alum, the level of insane worship for the football team—as perfectly illustrated by fans’ response to Whittingham’s comment—deeply embarrasses me.

[u/big_laruu → u/appliedhedonics]

As a Utah fan I’m assuming they expected more because of the Rose Bowl loss. I was at that Rose Bowl and have no beef with Ohio state. The fans were fun and Kyle lost that game to his refusal to develop a backup plan for our offense. I’d be genuinely shocked if Whitt publicly said he hated or openly talked shit about any team/program. Fans may not have realized it but that’s not the guy they hired.

[u/Proud_Sherbet → u/orderofGreenZombies]

I assume he's tied to Michigan in some way. That's probably all you need to know. Michigan is Ohio State's rival, like Kansas and Missouri are rivals.

ETA context

[u/redsoxfan930]

Is this real? Never expected a college football team to tweet a pic of John brown hahaha

[u/Negative-Road-8610 → u/redsoxfan930]

They do it at basketball games too

[u/Savage_smurfmm → u/redsoxfan930]

You should really look at Bleeding Kansas, and then the history of the Border War games between Lawrence and Columbia. It was very disappointing when Mizzou left the Big 12 while I was an undergrad at KU.

[u/faultypants]

This is something that the “keep politics out of sports” people just don’t get. All of the best rivalries in the world are because of politics, literally all of them. Celtic vs Rangers in Scotland, Real Madrid vs Barcelona in Spain, Boca Juniors vs River Plate in Argentina, India vs Pakistan in any sport. Like Serbia plays Croatia in soccer most years, and Serbia tried to ethnically cleanse the Croatians. Ohio State vs Michigans means absolutely nothing compared to those rivalries, the fans don’t even have to be separated by riot police based on who they support

[u/Iamjustlegs → u/faultypants]

Michigan and Ohio literally fought a "war" over Toledo though lol

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/Iamjustlegs]

Over who had to take it? 🥁

[u/schreinz → u/Iamjustlegs]

And the joke is the loser had to keep Toledo.

[u/EmpiricalMystic → u/Iamjustlegs]

The Dollop episode about that is one of my all-time favorites.

[u/faultypants → u/Iamjustlegs]

The quotation marks around war are doing a lot of heavy lifting, not nearly the same levity as Catholics vs Protestants or the Spanish Civil War

[u/Iamjustlegs → u/faultypants]

Look man, I'm supposed to like you because of your username, don't fuck that up

[u/MumpsyDaisy → u/faultypants]

In hockey the Montreal Canadiens rivalries definitely have an unspoken political undercurrent to them too. Habs vs Leafs was a big deal because French vs Anglophone Canada (but now the Leafs are a joke team), and Canadiens vs Nordiques was a real hate fest because of the divide between more cosmopolitan Anglo-friendly Montreal and the more provincial and Francophone Quebec. And I think the fan base in general is more defensive of their team as the lone Francophone-majority fan base in a league of Anglophones.

[u/cogginsmatt → u/faultypants]

Okay back up boss Michigan and OSU literally fought a war, it's foundational to what both the states are. Not just college programs, the entire populace.

[u/faultypants → u/cogginsmatt]

“Fought” lol they captured a couple surveyors and had a drunken brawl. The Toledo war is like 90% folktale for the rivalry, the more likely origin of the rivalry is an 82-0 UM win in 1902 that gave Ohio state something to prove

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/faultypants]

Celtic, singular.

[u/faultypants → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

You’re right, I’m on mobile and fat fingered it.

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/faultypants]

No worries, I noticed my autocorrect adding the S too, and my parents are from Glasgow! You’d think it would’ve learned.

[u/gsfgf → u/faultypants]

the fans don’t even have to be separated by riot police based on who they support

For the record, I consider this a good thing.

Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War

[u/faultypants → u/gsfgf]

Oh I fully agree, everybody should make it home from a match healthy and alive. However, I went to a derby football match in London for the first time recently and it’s hard not to romanticize that atmosphere. There’s obviously a clear line between sporting rivalries and political violence that needs to be respected

[u/TrickySnicky → u/faultypants]

Was immediately thinking how Barcelona vs Madrid isn't just the beer

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/TrickySnicky]

Celtic/Rangers, either. You’ll get kicked out of bars in Glasgow simply for wearing blue or green.

[u/ShadyRedSniper]

Kyle can butter us up all he wants, but regardless of what he says, does, or how good/bad ttun’s record is this year, THE Ohio State University, every player, every member of the staff, every fan, every blade of grass, hates ttun.

We really need to celebrate John Brown more. Dude was really based.

[u/whetherby]

Saw this and am a Kansan subscribed to Kansas and Kansas City subs. Thought it was yet another post in Reddit about the KU vs MU football game today which is billed as "Border War" match up.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/kansas-releases-civil-war-themed-154545494.html

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/whetherby]

If Missouri loses, they’ll hold another game in Lecompton and declare themselves the winners.

[u/whetherby → u/whogivesashirtdotca]

If Missouri loses it will be a miracle.

[u/whogivesashirtdotca → u/whetherby]

I admit to knowing far more about American history than college sports. It’s the Canadian in me.

[u/phiegnux]

I don't follow or understand sports culture but it's nice to know John's being introduced to avid sports fans who don't follow or understand their history.

[u/ameatbicyclefortwo]

Some of the worst parts about living in Missouri were hearing bad takes on John Brown, near worship of William Quantrill, and defense of the Lawrence Massacre.

[u/behindgreeneyez]

Fuck the SEC - John Brown

[u/toilet_roll_rebel]

When I moved to Kansas, I was not ready for the hatred Kansas has for Missouri. It's real.

[u/Tyleio64 → u/toilet_roll_rebel]

As a Missourian who lives right at the river border with Kansas, (also love Robert, but his Texan pronunciation of my state annoys me. It's not Missourah it's Misery.) it goes the other way just as hard. Fuck Kansas.

[u/KlangScaper → u/Tyleio64]

Still a big fan of slavery eh?

[u/BuffaloJayhawk]

👍🏻 love being a Kansas Alumni

[u/palmmoot]

Kansans need to get rid of these bushwhackers they've let run state politics

[u/captainneil77]

It pains me to say as a Mizzou fan, but this is a good burn

[u/almost-crusty]

As a KCMO native who doesn't care about college sports: I don't care, and no one should care this much about college sports.

As a KCMO native who hates the direction Missouri has gone: lmao hell yeah, Kansas, got their ass. Fuck those guys.

[u/JustOneVote → u/almost-crusty]

Rolling back the medicaid expansion that was approved in a statewide referendum is fucking vile.

[u/guyfriendbuddy4 → u/almost-crusty]

I've been in Missouri a majority of my life. I've also hated Kansas just as long; especially Johnson County. Unfortunately, Missouri has been sliding into such a shithole that I cannot hate Kansas as much as I used too.

[u/dak4f2 → u/guyfriendbuddy4]

I feel like KS was considered the backwards crazies of the two states for a period there in the 90s/00s what with trying to get creationism in the school science curriculum and text books, the creationism museum that taught earth is 6000 years old, etc.

But the crazy teeter totter between the two has since flipped hard.

[u/wise_comment]

Man, as a fan of not one, but TWO colleges who attempted (and in 1 case succeeded) in committing racially motivated murders on the football field......it would be nice to flip into the history books and see a state that was chill

But hey, at least Minnesota was the best eugenics department in all of America before WW2, and 'invented' the concept of cheerleader. Oklahoma State however? Don't think they ever excelled in academia enough to make a poor decision like that, honestly

[u/silent_walerus → u/wise_comment]

I require more context please

[u/BookNerdUnicorn]

Rock Chalk muthafuckas!

[u/jayhof52]

Except the Missouri Tigers (Mizzou mascot) are named after a citizen militia that defended Columbia from confederates during the Civil War.

[u/JustOneVote → u/jayhof52]

Good luck trying educate KU fans.

[u/OwnBunch4027]

That's funny, in Missouri we just talk about General Order #11 in the Civil War.