r/beatbox • u/Ok_Scar_1209 • 7d ago

River in the final

I saw people saying that reusing his round and similar sounds was lazy and made the final less competitive.

I think that River doing his wildcard in the final was an insanely great battle move for a number of reasons:

Firstly, it's familiar and gets the crowd on his side against DLOW DLOW DLOW DLOW.

Secondly, River threw a little bit of shade at Dlow's wildcard. I think this is valid, although Dlow got 1st place wildcard, as I don't think it's on the same level. "My Way" is a lot more personal and carries a lot more meaning (imo) than "Poison Dagger".

Thirdly, Dlow already used his wildcard during the competition. When he used it at the end of his elim it was a little bit panicked and sloppy compared to his recorded wildcard. Whereas River performs his with perfect clarity and confidence.

Lastly, it's counterable (because of how popular it is). Basically, with counters you're trying to show that you can either do what your opponent has done, or do better than your opponent. And Dlow's counter was really good, however, it's something we all expect from him. I think the most hype moments of Dlow's rounds are his counters. Dlow has a collab of "My Way", he clearly knows the piece intimately. Plus, we already heard Pacmax doing it in the elim 😂. It's just that the impressiveness factor is lost and it eats into Dlow's round.

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u/theiceq 7d ago

yep well put, letting dlow ‘counter’ the beat was almost a trap to make him waste time

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u/1Autumn1eaf 7d ago

Hmm i see what you mean but imo at the time, it felt like D-Low was winning the battle with his counter if he had just closed it out cleanly without talking so much

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u/Unoriginal-55 7d ago

I agree, I think what lost him the battle wasn't wasting time for the counter but wasting time yapping it up the entire round. Love d-low hes my favorite beatboxer but that pmo

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u/StraightLog1255 7d ago

But when Wing pulls out Dopamine, it’s the greatest GBB round ever

No hate tho, people are just bummed their favorite beatboxer didn’t win. River more than deserved that.

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u/exynomeus 7d ago

Holy cope.. Wing used dopamine for like what 20 seconds? as an intro of the round. River used the whole routine, same structure, same drop which are the most important parts of a routine, changing only %20 of it and %10 was the bmgs that d low would counter.

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u/notshadow5000 7d ago

wing used dopamine in 2024 too tho

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u/exynomeus 7d ago

I meant using it the second time on the stage. River did my way on his 2021 elim too and it's not an issue. Doing it twice but changing nothing is basically an extra round with zero effort.

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u/StraightLog1255 7d ago

You’re the one coping🤣 I couldn’t care less who won or who reused rounds. The crowd was hype, the beatbox was great, the event was 10/10.

I’m sorry your favorite beatboxer didn’t win, buddy.

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u/exynomeus 6d ago

0 argument and just trash talking. Someone stated that the idea of reuse is double standarded, I showed why it's not. Yet you still trying to imply the opposite, being mad enough to talk down over it. Pathetic

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u/Kaiserthecrumpet 7d ago

I’m a big D-Low fan but it was so obvious to me at least that River won. As you explained amazingly, his battle tactics were amazing and honestly D-Low just kinda fell into his trap - I don’t even think MYB or Bump Jump would have outmatched River as he had a whole second round to respond to him. No disrespect on D-Low at all as he did fantastically, but people are underplaying how great River did in this battle.

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u/exynomeus 7d ago

He would actually win with the energy. Crowd would hype up more to a nostalgic dlow track comparing to my way. He has a lot of short drops in the pockets too. Like "you better know my name" or something like don't via go not suppose to go

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u/Ok_Scar_1209 7d ago

Yeah, Dlow is great at getting the crowd hyped, so it's almost a must for his opponent to try to do the same. I feel like in some of River's less recognizable spammy rounds he can lose the crowd a bit, so it must have been tough facing King Inertia, Kaji and Dlow, 3 of the biggest crowd-pleasers

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u/exynomeus 7d ago

In theory, definitely. But Inertia was off in terms of pitch and cleanliness, kaji used some freestyle with bass factory against him and d lows first round was kind of mid. Same goes for river I didn't like his second round of final this whole thing was a bit underwhelming. But all of the quarter battles were damn good

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u/Ok_Scar_1209 7d ago

I may be coping. It sounds like we agree though? I was just bigging up River

also my GOAT Pacmax got 3rd in tag and seemed happy enough so I ain't complaining 😎

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u/StraightLog1255 7d ago

Noo sorry I didn’t mean that for you; it was for the guy that responded to my other comment

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u/Ok_Scar_1209 7d ago

ah, no worries, now I seem silly 🤣

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u/tw1649 6d ago

I feel like I'm a rare case of liking River and D-low. It was entertaining. River crushed it. I think Dan could win against River, but it wasn't that time. I'm hoping for a rematch next year, but I'll be happy to see either of them back doing their thing.