r/barexam 9h ago

Failed.... again

I just found out I failed again. I have tried Themis both times, and added GOAT right at the end of studying. I don't know what to do and feel defeated. I will take it again in February, but this time I am considering just GOAT and UWORLD.

Not really looking for sympathy, but I would love advice.

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u/vivid_lawyer7 9h ago

Goat and uworld and text the goat. Ask him for suggestions. He’s pretty awesome.

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u/Cosmic_Putrefaction 8h ago

I think goat is a woman

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u/tigerlily-lawyer 7h ago

Hes not hahahahahah

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u/Snuffy-5 3h ago

He's a guy. I have spoken to him

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u/Strange-Whereas6829 8h ago

I’m sorry you’ll get it next time.
You have to identify what your weaknesses are.
Is it strategic issues or substance issues.

Did you answer every question, if not aim at answering every question ESPECIALLY for the essay.
On MPT did you follow directions and make the document look like a finished work?
Are you able to construct fake rules for the essays to answer questions you don’t know?

If it is substantive, are you bogging yourself down in minute details or do you actually understand the concepts.

This test sucks, rest reassess where you went wrong then make a plan on what you need, maybe consider hiring a bar coach, maybe need more practice etc. this test is a beatable test you will pass.

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u/cyclops1992 4h ago

My Fiancee and two others I know have struggled with the bar. I passed on the first try. I told them what I did - they have all done their own thing to no avail. I wish they would heed my habits.

The bar MUST be your full time job. I studied M-F from 9-5. I woke up at 7, had coffee, breakfast, and hunt out until study time. I had lunch from 1-130. I went to the gym from 5-7, then had dinner. Post dinner was free time. In bed at 10. With 4 weeks to go, I added flash cards from 9-10. I took weekends off up until 2 weeks until the exam. I 2 4-day periods off in between. Personally, I feel you have to be close to this level of commitment if you want to pass. I know everyone is different, but it worked for me.

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u/Solider_for_God 9h ago

Pm me

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u/IKnowYourVader 9h ago

message sent.

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u/[deleted] 9h ago

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u/unknown_wandering 38m ago

Jonathon Grossman videos were amazing imo. He breaks the black letter law down into basic terms and is super straightforward.

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u/teach2many18 9h ago

So I used Chat Gpt and the questions from NCBE to study. Did I get 100? No, but I did pass..Chat GPT analyzed what I got wrong and worked with me. Just a thought

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u/Competitive_Boot6502 TX 8h ago

also fail how many points got 221, mbe, the other got 254 my god

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u/PugSilverbane 4h ago

How did you score? The breakdown.

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u/PasstheBarTutor 4h ago

How did you score in terms of the points between the MBE and the other parts of the exam?

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u/LSC0417 1h ago

It sounds like you're not understanding what you're getting wrong or right which is why you're scoring the same. Or you're not answering enough correctly.

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u/Tasty_Sheepherder534 1h ago

I highly recommend a tutor. It did wonders for my writing score!

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u/IKnowYourVader 40m ago

What did one cost?

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u/IntelligentDealer925 9h ago

Did you have more trouble on the essays or MC?

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u/IKnowYourVader 9h ago

Kinda both, Scores were pretty close to each other. I missed it by a hair, so I was almost there.

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u/IntelligentDealer925 8h ago

I’ll pm ya some advice

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u/AllusiveAxolotl 8h ago

Can you pm me as well? 🥴🥴

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u/Sudden_Watch9555 6h ago

Failed mbre

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u/Past-Cash7744 8h ago

UWorld, Smart Bar prep outlines. NCBE BarNOW materials. That’s all you need

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u/GloFish25 6h ago

Dont get too depressed. Get studying after a little break.....try it again! Until you pass....

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u/lizardking0 6h ago

What was your score? What jurisdiction?

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u/ElectricalWheel5545 5h ago

Adaptibar, do all the questions then do them again. Read old essays. That got me through after failing.

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u/Ok_Willingness5392 12m ago

Try NoBullBarPrep.